Open 753: Nomination Mafia [Game Over!]

[Irrelephant11]

Eh maybe he doesn’t deserve a vote yet
VOTE: clemency

[Auro]

@GW's 720:
1. Re: Policy lynches, Why not? I'd be against a policy lynch on RC for "being too good as scum", for example; but you could call my Clemency push an effective policy-lynch too since I can imagine his play coming from town as well (from experience).
2. "Only scum would know who's nominated" - I think this is a stretch, and she's clearly speaking in context, you're interpreting the intent of the post wrongly.
3. About the "if you push me I'll push you" - I brought the same point up in my push, and her rebuttal was that it was her applying a BoP to RC. While I don't like it much, can you not see this coming from town?

[GrandWazoo]

@GW's 720:
1. Re: Policy lynches, Why not? I'd be against a policy lynch on RC for "being too good as scum", for example; but you could call my Clemency push an effective policy-lynch too since I can imagine his play coming from town as well (from experience).

My point was not about policy-lynches per se, but about Shoshin's hypocrisy in wanting DT modkilled.

2. "Only scum would know who's nominated" - I think this is a stretch, and she's clearly speaking in context, you're interpreting the intent of the post wrongly.

Combined with her argument "well we can always lynch RC D2" assuming RC would be nominated in the first place, is a scum mindset. As is "you know I'll defend you D1" Esp. when RC was openly and repeatedly declaring his intention to ragequit.

3. About the "if you push me I'll push you" - I brought the same point up in my push, and her rebuttal was that it was her applying a BoP to RC. While I don't like it much, can you not see this coming from town?

I didn't buy her rebuttal at all.

[ejjinami]

Let’s speak with one of our regulars.

• “Hello Willson, you're with us since the business started and seem to know a lot about cockfights... Would you mind sharing some of your thoughts with us? Who do you think has the highest chances to win?”
  
• “Honestly, it’s hard to tell. The battle has only just started, but if I were to bet, it’d probably be on the Scots Grey chicken, volxen.”
  
• “Not on Shoshin?”
  
• “No, definitely not. While it’s true that she was one the last season’s winners, luck played a big part in her victory back then and I don’t think it will help her here. Besides, the chickens in this round seem a lot more aggressive than in the previous ones, so it's just unlikely for such a big and easily noticeable specimen to be able to retain their strength until the last round."
  
• “I see, that’s an interesting opinion. Thank you for your commentary.”

Vote Count 1.9

Clemenc‬y:

(3) RadiantCowbells, Auro, Irrelephant11

Shoshin:

(2) DoubtingThomas, GrandWazoo

RadiantCowbells:

(1) Clemenc‬y

DoubtingThomas:

(1) Shoshin

scum reading:

(1) volxen

Not Voting:

Demonlord, scum reading, Fuscosco

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-12 18:02:08)

[Irrelephant11]

Clemency please give an in depth read on me, volxen, and shoshin

[Irrelephant11]

And like, everyone? But those three first thank u

[Irrelephant11]

@GW's 720:
1. Re: Policy lynches, Why not? I'd be against a policy lynch on RC for "being too good as scum", for example; but you could call my Clemency push an effective policy-lynch too since I can imagine his play coming from town as well (from experience).

My point was not about policy-lynches per se, but about Shoshin's hypocrisy in wanting DT modkilled.

2. "Only scum would know who's nominated" - I think this is a stretch, and she's clearly speaking in context, you're interpreting the intent of the post wrongly.

Combined with her argument "well we can always lynch RC D2" assuming RC would be nominated in the first place, is a scum mindset. As is "you know I'll defend you D1" Esp. when RC was openly and repeatedly declaring his intention to ragequit.

3. About the "if you push me I'll push you" - I brought the same point up in my push, and her rebuttal was that it was her applying a BoP to RC. While I don't like it much, can you not see this coming from town?

I didn't buy her rebuttal at all.

Shoshin being hypocritical about the topic of policy lynches doesn’t make her scum.
I have the same expectation of RC being nominated D2, regardless of his alignment.
You didn’t answer Auro’s question, here - what about Shoshin BoP’ing RC is scummy? Why can’t it come from town?

[Shoshin]

This from the player constantly complaining about lack of decorum in this game.

I haven't "constantly" complained about "lack of decorum." I poked at DT because he was randomly insulting multiple players for no reason in hypocritical ways. But constant complaints? No.

As for what I said to RC, having emotions isn't scummy. We have history, he invited me to play this game, so it's especially upsetting to feel mistreated by him. I felt hurt by what he was saying.

Someone who's against policy-lynch on one player shouldn't be advocating policy-lynching another.

I never supported a policy lynch. I said I preferred lynching scum DT over scum Clemency for policy reasons, but I was clear about saying that DT was scum, not a policy lynch.

Only scum would know who's being nominated.

That doesn't mean town can't make accurate predictions about who's getting nominated, especially when it comes to a player like RC.

This might be the scummiest post of the game.

There's nothing scummy about pushing a lynch on someone who shouldn't be pushing a lynch on you, especially when you have history with that player. Everything you're calling scummy isn't scummy.

[Shoshin]

I didn't buy her rebuttal at all.

This isn't a debate. It's a game of mafia.

[Shoshin]

I don't see why RC's townreading Wazoo.

[Irrelephant11]

Me either

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not.

[Irrelephant11]

Oh cool

[Shoshin]

I don't understand how someone like Wazoo townreads DT while scumreading me & RC.

[Shoshin]

And his scumhunting is super mechanical. Do you at any point feel like he's tried to sort me or RC?

[Irrelephant11]

Who’s the third with clem/wazoo? Can it be SR?

Pedit: my feeling is DT is being townread mostly by scum in an effort to split town, while town is more likely to scumread DT out of frustration

[Irrelephant11]

And his scumhunting is super mechanical. Do you at any point feel like he's tried to sort me or RC?

I don’t at any point feel like he’s tried to sort anyone

[RadiantCowbells]

Still tr Sr.

What about demonlord

[Shoshin]

Demon's scum.

[Shoshin]

Clemency might flip town.

[Irrelephant11]

Waxoo/Clem feels w/w

[Irrelephant11]

Yeah, if you read GW’s ISO like he’s flipped red, his teammates are almost definitely Clem/demon

[Irrelephant11]

Clemency might flip town.

Who would you replace Clem with? DT?

[RadiantCowbells]

I want a really long D1 btw

I intend to lynch scum today

[RadiantCowbells]

Clemency especially yeah