Non-Reviewed Game [game over]

[Elsa Jay]

Elsa's ISO is so contentless it huts my eyes

There ain't no hut like a Pizza Hut.

[light_ganski]

afaic it's still rvs tryhard

If you're 400 posts in and it's still RVS and you're not trying to bring the game out of RVS I seriously question your motivations

Let's kill Light.

Come at me bro

[light_ganski]

Maria and orfrkhdjfcmxz look town motivated

[light_ganski]

Stop saying it's rvs and scumreading people for "taking the game seriously"

I found the one sane man

Thank you

[light_ganski]

Davesaz townlean. I had this same observation about fuscosco, and during my read through, I also had the same feeling where I felt like there were too many scummy people at this point in the game.

Mindmeld this

[light_ganski]

If youre scumreading dunnstral pls tell me why

Same if youre townreading ausuka or fuscosco

[Wisdom]

im townleaning both
dont ask me why

[ofrhz]

Maria and orfrkhdjfcmxz look town motivated

Why the tr on Maria?

[ofrhz]

orfrkhdjfcmxz

Wisdom alt detected

[Wisdom]

nah i always use three letters between o and z

[Elsa Jay]

I just shortened it to Ofr most of the time since or I have to say "orfice" in my head. It's a weird usename but definitely unique.

[Enigma]

Wagon on me yay

I choose VOTE: starwing

Why?

Made a terrible reason to jump on a terrible wagon

what do you think of elsa's vote on you?

Elsa's ISO is so contentless it huts my eyes

[Enigma]

^actually just mainly pretending that elsa doesn't exist

[Enigma]

You're only looking at Enigma at a surface level and that's what you're accusing me of doing

They pop in when I mess up the post # when it's clear what I'm talking about and still don't respond to it

You overestimate how much effort im willing to put into responding to you

[Enigma]

^also, i generally pop in once a day to the site unless im out for the evening which is a couple of time each week ... its pretty regular
plus my response is in 529

[StarwingBeauvoi]

Enigma, i didn't vote for you because of how often you posts, but because you didn't say much when you did post.
If i look at you, that's what i see.
If I looked at someone else, i would not see much more
We have all been too slow.
Not just you. None of your actions have looked much like scum.
UNVOTE:

I'll be sorted out in two days or less, and start pushing things.
Don't anyone be afraid to push me with questions.I won't break.

Why do you think Wisdom was voting you?

[xyzzy]

votecount 1.17

4 players voting for Enigma (Wisdom, Elsa Jay, Dunnstral, MariaR)
3 players voting for DoubtingThomas (Sabrina LeCutie, Ausuka, Fuscosco)
2 players voting for Elsa Jay (Clemency, ofrhz)
2 players voting for Gamma Emerald (Vedith, davesaz)
1 player voting for Vedith (light_ganski)
1 player voting for davesaz (Gamma Emerald)
1 player voting for StarwingBeauvoi (Enigma)
1 player voting for Sabrina LeCutie (wilky)
1 player voting for Dunnstral (DoubtingThomas)

1 player not voting (StarwingBeauvoi)

with 17 votes, it takes 9 to lynch.

day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-03-19 19:00:00).

mod notes: Gamma Emerald and wilky have been prodded.

[Ausuka]

UNVOTE:

dt is less scummy now i guess because i like their dunnstral push.

i don't really know where to go now though.

[Ausuka]

to those asking about my line about the gamma wagon; it generally seems like it would be a good idea to build on what we have, even if people are just pretending to actually believe it, then build a wagon that explicitly is not on a scumread because i think the first one would cause more pressure and cause the game to get started a lot faster. if there's a case on gamma that i missed i'd be wrong but i don't think there is one.

@enigma; those players are holding back in terms of content; it's certainly possible some of you are busy irl but we can't just assume that as an excuse for giving no content, i think.

You think then that Gamma has been explicitly said to not be a scum read? What else is there to build on? Why is pushing a Gamma wagon with little reads any different than "

building on what we have, even if people are just pretending to actually believe it

"?

i do think that the gist of the wagon is a wagon to get the game started. it's always kind of been left over from rvs and a significant amount of people still thought it was rvs.
what do you mean, what else is there to build on? there's more game content to build on is what i was referring to?
it's different because building on game content is always going to be better than not doing so because if someone is wagoned because people are calling them scummy for reasons x and y that's, like, a foundation of discussion? which as far as i'm aware is the goal in any game and why rvs doesn't last longer than it needs to and is mainly just used to get the game started? even if you disagree with my viewpoint i don't understand what the last two questions are meant to accomplish.

My Gamma read is precisely about holding back on content. Why is it better to vote a shorter wagon than a longer wagon in that case?
I don't disagree on some of the others you mentioned having low content.
Are any of the people you suggested wagoning scummy to you? You even included yourself in that list. It sounded to me like it was an "anyone but Gamma" type list which seems strange at this point in the game.

in that case, i misinterpreted the situation, sorry.

I think light is scummy, vedith isn't really and obviously not myself. the reason i said that was because i saw people suggesting the gamma wagon was the best way to get the game going, but I think that building on what was posted before and joining a wagon with more stated reasons would be more likely to trigger events.

Do you just think Light is scummy based on the shakiness around the Fuscosco vote?[/quote]
i think light is scummy because:
a) that
b) how she latched onto dunnstral's explanation is suspicious and how she claimed the insight made her deeply think about the posts, when i think that's false because i was pushing fuscosco and had no motivation to do anything of the sort; i feel like instead of thinking about it like she claimed to she kinda just latched onto it.
c) i dislike 182; i don't see how trying to get out of RVS like that is so scummy, and it doesn't really make sense that she thinks it's literally impossible to tr me at that point? like i've given enough content that it's possible to just read it and find it genuine. also she doesn't have any reaction to ofrhz saying that and explicitly trs her.

all of these reasons are like not that strong and could come from town!light i guess but she's a scumlean overall.

They say Ausuka is defensive, but why?
Well maybe one or twice,
But not more than some others.
If Ausuka was defensive in post 137,
So was Light in post 130
Perhaps.
Neither had much bad to defend. They can both defend rightly.
Light in post 138 makes a defense of a sort
And in answers to Ausuka's post 153, I say that we are not as all effective as we wish to be.
It might be better to sound certain when doing pressure, but dithering is not inherently a sign of evil.

If anyone really wishes to call Ausuka defensive, post 398 is a deflection.
Ausuka has shared some opinions, but many reads?
Few of us have many reads.

i get called defensive in irl sometimes too so they're probably not wrong about that, i just don't see how it's scummy really.

[Wisdom]

i don't really know where to go now though.

how about enigma

[Ausuka]

I say we just get rid of Thomas now

We can all focus more properly when we don't have an arrogant jerk breathing down our necks.

I legit think town has a better chance of winning with him gone than with him here regardless of alignment

who's scum?

ofrhz is town probably.

i don't really know where to go now though.

how about enigma

Ok sure for now.
VOTE: Enigma

[wilky]

Been a busy few days will be catching up in a few hours

[DoubtingThomas]

UNVOTE:

dt is less scummy now i guess because i like their dunnstral push.

i don't really know where to go now though.

townie post because he's dropping a push on me over something that others have pushed to be scummy of me

[DoubtingThomas]

dunnstral belittling my town read on enigma because it's "surface level" while saying my scum case on him is "stupid" even though it is the exact opposite of a surface level is really bad

[Clemency]

daily-ish check-in
how's everyone