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[Jingle]

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I'm not saying it makes him scum. I'm saying that there is a reasonable doubt that it makes him town.

[Dannflor]

Post preview doesn't work 100% of the time if you're using Quick Reply iirc, but I see your point

it's almost like PR picked a list of names of people who he can't read because they post weird and he doesn't actually consider motivation

Don't think this is entirely true

For example I don't think I'm a particularly lynch baity player (I hope) but I make the list just because there's enough of a chance I'm scum that I'll need to go before lylo ideally

If he was doing what you're claiming I would figure he'd have players like xtoxm or Gamma in there

[Extrapolated Eagle]

You post weird dann. Accept it

[Alisae]

VOTE: shoshin

[Shoshin]

My reads haven't changed much from yesterday. I'm not lynching Vedith, DDL, or EE today unless it's me or them.

Lycan or Clem gives us the best shot of hitting scum. Gamma's still plausible scum. Xtox needs to be reevaluated given the extent of his lurking.

PR needs to be lynched if still alive at LYLO, especially if he continues to push mislynches.

[Prince of Renais]

PR needs to be lynched if still alive at LYLO, especially if he continues to push mislynches.

sorry that you rolled scum.

[Jingle]

scum way more interesting in this setup.

[Prince of Renais]

i was going to hold off on 100% casing because there's still a variable in play that i want to be clear on
but that's a post that town shoshin never makes and a post that scum shoshin always does.

let's kill grapes.

VOTE: grapes

Can you follow my lynch for today, PR?

the moment that I called grapes scum, Shoshin tries to appeal to my respect for her to get me to sheep her. no specific intended target except that it's

not

grapes.

It's fine if townies don't townread me but I feel like I'm pretty obvtown here to stronger scumhunters.

I'd prefer a lynch on Lycan/Clem over Grapes. I know this is bad of me to say but when Grapes was interacting with me I felt like he was actually giving me a fair shot instead of just pushing my mislynch.

Are you town on Lycan?

The degree to which Grapes followed up on my DT push felt townish, like I feel like scum would have just let it go eventually but he kept pushing for more of an explanation.

continues to vaguely call grapes town but isn't willing to fully commit to it. and Shoshin has an immense amount of weight behind her townreads. see any of her games. but she's not willing to hard push this one.

I will say this is a first for me, causing two players in a game to replace out. I'm not sure how to feel about this.

Lycan/Clem/Buj is my solve at the moment. I'm not "really really certain" though. I'll let you know when I am.

i actually seriously considered replacing out the moment she called me scum so make that 4!

I keep coming back to this.

Why would you replace out just because I called you scum?

If you're town, wouldn't you just push my lynch?

This feels fake, PR.

I can't detail this but Shoshin 100% knows that this is a fact. yet she tries to call me scum for it while I'm pushing grapes.

So if I ever want you to replace out of my games, I just call you scum?

I get that you're sensitive but that feels a bit much even for you.

Okay, I looked through some of Grapes games. I understand the wagon now.

VOTE: Grapes

you can scumread grapes on meta but grapes was obvscum based on the contents of this game and this game alone. town shoshin wouldn't have needed that.
also worth noting that once the momentum gets the point where it's pretty obviously happening she goes from trying to appeal to me to vote lyc or clem to oh yeah sure grapes seems scum.

footnote: shoshin has far too large of an ego to follow me. she respects my play but in any individual situation she would always put her reads first. this her trying to be a good townie, this isn't who she actually is.

[Prince of Renais]

oh and she can fuck right off with that lynch me at lylo thing. she's made a point many times of saying that she would never try to use that kind of rationale regarding me. she claims that she can read me
in fact she has proven that she can read me over a succession of games. the one game where I was scum she told irrelephant to lynch me. she hasn't read me as scum when i was town.
and yet in this game where i've spewed myself town to death she's hiding behind a paranoia read instead of solving me.

claiming to be good as town comes with perks as well as penalties and her saying that i'm scum here is in and of itself enough reason to lynch her. end story.

[Alisae]

wow
what a case

[Alisae]

does that mean I get to kill Jingle tomorrow?

[Prince of Renais]

go ahead.

[Alisae]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

[Alisae]

This is my moment
this is what i've been waiting for

[Prince of Renais]

:

[Prince of Renais]

also my original deathtunnel on her happened for a reason.

i really, really need to stop taking back those kinds of reads.

[Alisae]

wat

im high
im confused?

[Prince of Renais]

i immediately felt something off with her play when i replaced in and voted her. i overthought it and unvoted. i gotta trust those feelings.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Well I guess it's "trust me I know this person" case basically.

But hey. He did net one day 1.

VOTE: Shoshin

[Alisae]

Its fine, that stuff happens.
You just have to make sure you get back on track, and eventually you wil because ur just flat out good enough.

[Prince of Renais]

she only actively tries to work with me when she's scum

[Jingle]

does that mean I get to kill Jingle tomorrow?

nah, but you get to try.

[Dannflor]

Well I guess it's "trust me I know this person" case basically.

??

that's a really weird way to discredit a case that clearly does have more substance to it than that

[Prince of Renais]

i mean this is i guess what i was like when i started out. when you can't cut it as a scum player in general, abuse your relationships and make people feel too horrible about potentially mislynching you to ever vote you.
it's a great substitute for actually being able to project town as scum or to make the correct decisions.

you'll notice that she didn't even bother to address me after I called her scum, funny that.

I dunno if this will help you feel better but I really wouldn't risk a self-vote if I were scum because I've never done it before, and especially coming into this player list where I don't know anyone, there's no way I play scum the way I'm currently playing. I know it's self-meta or whatever but this is truth.

oh I saw this too. when she's not scum or when she's talking out of game she talks up her scumgame like crazy. she talks like she thinks she's the absolute shit at scum. yet she's here claiming she doesn't have the confidence to do a simple selfvote?

[Alisae]

does that mean I get to kill Jingle tomorrow?

nah, but you get to try.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills.

I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words.

You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands.

Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue.

But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it.

You’re fucking dead, kiddo.