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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:56 am

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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:00 am

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I'm not completely against it, but my point about his D1 play still stands: felt like too scummy to be scum. I think he's lynchabait and there are better options, like Lich and DT
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:02 am

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too scummy to be scum isnt a thing
perf isnt lynchbait, he has a good towngame and this doesnt look like it
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:04 am

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In post 1177, Xtoxm wrote:too scummy to be scum isnt a thing
perf isnt lynchbait, he has a good towngame and this doesnt look like it
Does he? He reminded me of other players with the same kind of town playstyle but I don't know him personally. I take that back then.

And you know what I mean by too scummy to be scum
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:06 am

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i know what you mean, its a statement that i see used semi frequently and i disagree that its ever applicable
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:10 am

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In post 1179, Xtoxm wrote:i know what you mean, its a statement that i see used semi frequently and i disagree that its ever applicable
It's a fallacy, yes. But I think it's applicable to some players that are, let's say, not as charismatic as the rest of the playerlist. I don't know Performer, but that's the feeling that I get from him. If you know him and tell me he's not like that, then my point is not good.

Too scummy to be scum is a common fallacy when you're talking about content; I'm using it as a personality thing. I shouldn't, since I don't know Performer, but I usually do it, heh.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:27 am

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In post 1176, pinturicchio wrote:I'm not completely against it, but my point about his D1 play still stands: felt like too scummy to be scum. I think he's lynchabait and there are better options, like Lich and DT
Youd rather lynch someone who has been generally inactive compared to someone who has been actively scummy? :shifty:
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:30 am

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In post 1181, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 1176, pinturicchio wrote:I'm not completely against it, but my point about his D1 play still stands: felt like too scummy to be scum. I think he's lynchabait and there are better options, like Lich and DT
Youd rather lynch someone who has been generally inactive compared to someone who has been actively scummy? :shifty:
No, you're right. I should reassess that, 'cause I missed what dave pointed out: DT said he would be absent.

But why Perfomer before Lich?
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:35 am

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In post 1182, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 1181, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 1176, pinturicchio wrote:I'm not completely against it, but my point about his D1 play still stands: felt like too scummy to be scum. I think he's lynchabait and there are better options, like Lich and DT
Youd rather lynch someone who has been generally inactive compared to someone who has been actively scummy? :shifty:
No, you're right. I should reassess that, 'cause I missed what dave pointed out: DT said he would be absent.

But why Perfomer before Lich?
Honestly i missed DT saying that as well and focused on his interaction between him and Chemist so i get that.

And a specific thing that he said and asked earlier that didnt set off warning signals until after I thought about it and reread
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:41 am

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Ok. Let's say both are scum, since this is a multiball. Let's say that Lich is probably Elsa's partner, and Performer is not (wolf, alien or sk for example)

What's the best course of action? There's too much WIFOM to discuss in here, but reducing a different faction's power sounds like a fine idea
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:55 am

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If we have the choice, eliminating a faction is better. Though with likely SK due to #kills, almost any scummy player not obviously a partner could be a faction elimination. And we have no way of knowing numbers so if mafia had 3 for example then hitting a partner doesn't necessarily mean an elimination but 2 does.

Pinturiccio, if you're trying to say Performer's playstyle is one you'd usually see as scum so you're concerned that might cloud your read, then I get what you're saying. That bothers me too at times, Dunnstral for example rubs me wrong every time...
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:04 am

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In post 1184, pinturicchio wrote:Ok. Let's say both are scum, since this is a multiball. Let's say that Lich is probably Elsa's partner, and Performer is not (wolf, alien or sk for example)

What's the best course of action? There's too much WIFOM to discuss in here, but reducing a different faction's power sounds like a fine idea
Mm I dont think hes SK or anything. Maybe Alien or Wolf.

Killing off smaller factions first=less night kills happening to town. (Granted also to mafia but *shrug*.)
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:19 am

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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:22 am

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In post 1115, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 1107, DoubtingThomas wrote:Anyone wants to talk to papi
Yes. Tell me why I should think youre town
well. you should only if you want to have correct reads. my role card says town, so if you want to be correct, feel free to read me as town. if you don't really care about being right on me, you don't have to. after all, it is a free country
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:24 am

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In post 1162, Shadowlesscloud wrote:VOTE: Performer

DT still flaking hard. Thats a big Hmm considering hes from MU where hes pretty active as town :|
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:25 am

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In post 1189, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 1162, Shadowlesscloud wrote:VOTE: Performer

DT still flaking hard. Thats a big Hmm considering hes from MU where hes pretty active as town :|
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also whats your name on mu? if you dont answer this question, it might affect my read on you
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:25 am

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In post 1170, pinturicchio wrote:DoubtingThomas - lack of activity and presence makes me think he's not town
nice activity read on someone who stated v/la
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:26 am

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In post 1176, pinturicchio wrote:I'm not completely against it, but my point about his D1 play still stands: felt like too scummy to be scum. I think he's lynchabait and there are better options, like Lich and DT
this is bad
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:26 am

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I aint scurred about your ability to read me.

Also Gratz

p-edit: We both already mentioned that we totally missed it

pp-edit: Agreed honestly
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:26 am

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In post 1190, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 1189, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 1162, Shadowlesscloud wrote:VOTE: Performer

DT still flaking hard. Thats a big Hmm considering hes from MU where hes pretty active as town :|
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:27 am

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In post 1188, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 1115, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 1107, DoubtingThomas wrote:Anyone wants to talk to papi
Yes. Tell me why I should think youre town
well. you should only if you want to have correct reads. my role card says town, so if you want to be correct, feel free to read me as town. if you don't really care about being right on me, you don't have to. after all, it is a free country
This is the first game that im not reverting to a town read right off the bat on you. And thats not good.
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:27 am

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In post 1194, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 1190, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 1189, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 1162, Shadowlesscloud wrote:VOTE: Performer

DT still flaking hard. Thats a big Hmm considering hes from MU where hes pretty active as town :|
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also whats your name on mu? if you dont answer this question, it might affect my read on you
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Yeh.
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:29 am

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In post 1195, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 1188, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 1115, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 1107, DoubtingThomas wrote:Anyone wants to talk to papi
Yes. Tell me why I should think youre town
well. you should only if you want to have correct reads. my role card says town, so if you want to be correct, feel free to read me as town. if you don't really care about being right on me, you don't have to. after all, it is a free country
This is the first game that im not reverting to a town read right off the bat on you. And thats not good.
good thing i am town and you will no longer rely on your meta of me then
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:30 am

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Lich as an Elsa partner looks quite likely.
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:31 am

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In post 1198, davesaz wrote:Lich as an Elsa partner looks quite likely.
Lich is scummy yeh. But what makes you think they are partners specifically?
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