Open 753: Nomination Mafia [Game Over!]

ejjinami · Post Post #2675 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:02 am

Vote Count 5.2

scum reading:

(1) Shoshin

Not Voting:

volxen, chennisden, Auro, scum reading, DoubtingThomas, Alonzo

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Day 5 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-02 15:20:45)

volxen · Post Post #2676 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:07 am

@Scumreading, Why do you want to lynch Chennisden instead of DoubtingThomas?

Shoshin · Post Post #2677 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:11 am

SR is scum, Volx. There's no getting around that simple fact.

I voted them so at this point your lynch options are me or SR. If one of us is town, the game's over.

chennisden · Post Post #2678 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:52 pm

I told you to lynch me yesterday; this slot is the worst out of the three to go to LyLo with.

DoubtingThomas · Post Post #2679 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:57 pm

another interview tomorrow. wanna prepare for that.

that being said one of scum reading - shoshin are conf scum, no?

DoubtingThomas · Post Post #2680 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:58 pm

idk why you clowns lynched vedith oltokgoetjgoefjmosdv

chennisden · Post Post #2681 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:03 pm

see above.

chennisden · Post Post #2682 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:03 pm

you couldve hammered me

fuck

i shouldve hammered me

volxen · Post Post #2683 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:18 pm

In post 2682, chennisden wrote:you couldve hammered me

fuck

i shouldve hammered me

If you and Vedith are both town, it wouldn't have mattered if you were lynched instead, because we would be in the exact same boat today except with Vedith alive instead of you. The scumteam is either Chennisden/DoubtingThomas/Scumreading or Auro/DoubtingThomas/Scumreading. If Auro is scum the whole point of yesterday's nomination list was to setup you and Vedith as back-to-back mislynches. Which is why I am only willing to vote for DoubtingThomas or Scumreading today.

chennisden · Post Post #2684 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:28 pm

uh why are we voting ANYONE at this point

chennisden · Post Post #2685 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:28 pm

scum can win right now

chennisden · Post Post #2686 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:28 pm

assuming scum reading isnt scum

Auro · Post Post #2687 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:35 pm

Is it safe to vote Scum Reading?

Auro · Post Post #2688 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:36 pm

In post 2673, Shoshin wrote:
In post 2660, Auro wrote:Way past my bedtime. I'll be back in the morning. I think Chen is the correct lynch, and if not, SR. Vedith's reads were off.
And how do you know Vedith's reads were off?

I believe so, since he has DT as a top townread and you as 100% scum? Am I wrong?

Auro · Post Post #2689 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pm

Volxen, I'm town.

Even in the hypothetical you propose (me+DT+SR), nominating Vedith+Chen+Shoshin is pretty sub-optimal play on my part; considering I strongly townread three slots. I would've nominated myself for towncred probably as scum, even then there's a lot to gain by nominating {Shoshin, Volxen, Alonzo} and leaving both Vedith and Chennisden as LyLo options.

Auro+Chennisden also shouldn't be a solve since I established I said Chen is the correct lynch at the start of the day.

Auro+Shoshin isn't a team because it's too much effort nominating her and having to defend her continuously, with the constant risk of her getting killed.

Auro · Post Post #2690 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:41 pm

Volxen, re: DT - are you completely unfazed by Vedith's dying reads? He had DT as a top townread.

Auro · Post Post #2691 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:53 pm

In post 2685, chennisden wrote:scum can win right now

Scum would've likely quickhammered already if both Shoshin and SR are town. This confirms that one of them is scum, at least.

VOTE: Scum Reading

Scum can quickhammer anyway if Shoshin and SR are town. Shoshin's not going to remove the vote anyway, so it's safe to place a vote.

volxen · Post Post #2692 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:56 pm

In post 2690, Auro wrote:Volxen, re: DT - are you completely unfazed by Vedith's dying reads? He had DT as a top townread.

I mean he thought both Shoshin or I are more likely to be scum that DT, so I will evaluate DT on my own rather than go by Vedith’s reads. The one read that he definitely got right is that Scumreading is scum.

In any case, are you 100% on {Volxen, Shoshin, Alonzo} all being town? If so that would imply the scumteam is exactly {DoubtingThomas, Chennisden, Scumreading} from the perspective of town!Auro. If not, then who among us three are you not confident is town?

I'm essentially 99.9999% on both Shoshin and Alonzo being town. It's much harder to get to that point with you because of your scumrange and the fact that you are going to look towny regardless of your alignment.

Auro · Post Post #2693 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:57 pm

I'm only 100% on Alonzo ATM.
I feel something's wrong with the gamestate.

I'm not really sure about Shoshin now.

volxen · Post Post #2694 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:59 pm

@Auro, Would you take issue with me voting for DoubtingThomas so that I can confirm to myself that he is scum via him not getting quickhammered, and objectively prove to everyone here that at least one of us is scum?

Auro · Post Post #2695 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:01 pm

Not sure the risk is worth it before I reevaluate Shoshin.
Scumreading isn't quickhammered - if you believe at least one of Shoshin and me is town *at least*, let's just lynch there?

Auro · Post Post #2696 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:03 pm

In post 2677, Shoshin wrote:I voted them so at this point your lynch options are me or SR. If one of us is town, the game's over.

This looks like a slip to me. Can you spot the mistake?

Auro · Post Post #2697 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:05 pm

In post 2692, volxen wrote:It's much harder to get to that point with you because of your scumrange and the fact that you are going to look towny regardless of your alignment.

There are players who can catch me, though. Irrelephant has experience with both my scumgame and my towngame. He quickly recognized and kinda locktowned me when I was town with him, and he toneread me correctly as strong town here as well.

Auro · Post Post #2698 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:06 pm

In post 2695, Auro wrote:Not sure the risk is worth it before I reevaluate Shoshin.

In other words, I'd rather you not pull a Mewtaph xD

volxen · Post Post #2699 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:10 pm

@Auro If you are unsure about Shoshin, aren't you taking quite a big risk in voting for Scumreading? If she is scum and Scumreading is town, with you voting for Scumreading her scumbuddies could come on and back-to-back vote for him. You've only had your vote on Scumreading for a little over two hours and no one else (except for me) has posted since you voted, so that could explain why Scumreading hasn't been quickhammered yet in the scenario where he is town and Shoshin is scum. This game has been slow lately, so even though it’s lylo I don’t know if scum would be constantly checking the thread for quickhammering opportunities (and they have to be on at the same time as well to quickhammer).