Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)


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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:49 pm

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If I hadn't seen you do it so many times, all the while being town, and getting mad at other town. I would have done the same mistake as them and just called you scum and made the game shit.

I'm not going to do it though, although I don't really trust people to not be dumb enough to listen to you.

Look RC, my reason for wanting Shoshin first is pretty clear:

Shoshin has never, ever, played like this in a town game. And if I'm wrong, link some games.

It's probably because I'm not wrong, isn't it?

You instead wants to lynch Wizard because he sounds to fake confidence in their reads, what doesn't happen only with scum. There's players that do that as town sometimes (you being the example).

Don't try to distort things, I'm being the reasonable one while you're not lynching Shoshin due to liking her.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:49 pm

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i'm trying to lynch scum and there's nothing less unreasonable than trying to lynch scum :]
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:50 pm

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You don't care what I have to say?
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:51 pm

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also that's a horrible misrepresentation of my case on him. that's just one point. the other point is that he clearly understands my reputation yet is pushing me for something that doesn't make sense from someone who knows my reputation. his entire case on me was pointed out to be garbage and his response was to create another entirely unrelated case instead of to back down on the read. he's pushing me strategically and I'm fairly sure the push on me is something orchestrated in daychat probably from someone who is aware that in recent months I've been lynchbaity, aka someone like you.
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:51 pm

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In post 450, Buki wrote:Shoshin has never, ever, played like this in a town game. And if I'm wrong, link some games.
How many of my games have you read?
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:52 pm

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In post 448, Shoshin wrote:Buki, you've been told that your meta read on me is wrong. Is there any reason you're still pushing it even though RC's meta read is based on substantially more evidence than yours?
What

the

hell

you're talking about?

I never said my meta is wrong. I said that it maybe is because you could have games like this that I had never seen before. However, you didn't link me a single one, and I need at least three.

"RC meta read has substantially more evidence than yours?"

First, just because he has played more with you doesn't mean he can
always
read you better.

Second, he is actually scum reading you and just don't want to lynch today because he thinks you're cute.
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:52 pm

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that was a sarcastic reference to a previous game where I was accused of doing that, not an actual serious statement.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:54 pm

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In post 454, Shoshin wrote:
In post 450, Buki wrote:Shoshin has never, ever, played like this in a town game. And if I'm wrong, link some games.
How many of my games have you read?
Lots, really.

I usually always am reading ongoing games, even when I wasn't playing games in the site.

You can even find me in some dead threads.

Every game I've read of yours, you were more aggressive and power town. And instead of linking me the damn games where you "play differently", you're playing semantics.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:54 pm

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also the paragraph structure of

my reason for x is the following:

x

is extremely scum indicative and not something that you usually do as town :)
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:55 pm

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In post 456, RadiantCowbells wrote:that was a sarcastic reference to a previous game where I was accused of doing that, not an actual serious statement.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:57 pm

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In post 458, RadiantCowbells wrote:also the paragraph structure of

my reason for x is the following:

x

is extremely scum indicative and not something that you usually do as town :)
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:57 pm

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"Hm"
"I see"

statements of having a thought process as opposed to having a thought process and posting the results
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:59 pm

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Then this is the TL;DR:

1. Shoshin has apparently never played like this as town
2. RC and Shoshin disagree but can't link a single game as counter-argument (and you would at least have 3, or 2 if being merciful)
3. One of the reasons RC doesn't want to lynch Shoshin is because he wants to play with her
4. He wants to lynch me for thinking that lynching Shoshin today is more sure to hit scum (what it is), just because he doesn't wanna Shoshin today and wants me to compromisse on Wizard

Hmm, what a game
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:59 pm

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hmmmmmmmmmmm
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:00 pm

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In post 461, RadiantCowbells wrote:"Hm"
"I see"

statements of having a thought process as opposed to having a thought process and posting the results
Actually my dog wrote those posts so you can't scum read me for that

I know, they would be good points but you can't, yeah
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:00 pm

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17 uses of the word hm over 65 posts

he has said the word hm in 1/4 of his posts
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:00 pm

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actually
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:01 pm

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Only one town game is necessary to counter the false meta. And they're easily found by looking through my games.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:01 pm

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Like, if I lowkey am almost going full caps beucase I'm getting annoyed but I don't want to make the thread that shitty
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:02 pm

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A bit of an overreaction.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:02 pm

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do what you need to do man it's not going to help

wizard tonight you tomorrow.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:03 pm

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don't hide behind not wanting to make the thread toxic, come on, show me what you got. don't disappoint me!
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:04 pm

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Btw at this point you have to switch to hard townreading Wizard b/c you're going to get quicklynched after he goes down and you might as well do your best to keep him alive.

You should towncase him and yourself just to be safe
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:05 pm

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In post 467, Shoshin wrote:Only one town game is necessary to counter the false meta. And they're easily found by looking through my games.
Not really, it can have special circumstances.

But anyway:

WHY

YOU DON'T LINK THAT YOURSELF IF THAT'S THE CASE?

Let's say you're hipothetically town.

You want me to go search again by myself to gain town points or something? Look, it's already night around here, and these past days since I came back I've read shit tons of pages of mafia and searched shit ton of games looking in people meta.

I'm tired.

Assuming you're town, can't you simply link it here? I guarantee you that I can spew myself town in another way later, I'm not really a hard read.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:05 pm

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I mean I know that you're not flavor leaf and you're going to be somewhat of a pushover but you can at least give me
something
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