Newbie 1924 - Game Over

[TTTT]

I feel like hardly anybody's interacted with me so far, and it's making me lonely

Hey, I feel the same way! Let's interact!

So... With all the Salad/Voted/RCE votes going on, you never changed your vote. Are you thinking about changing it? What made you stick?

Hi!

I don't really like to move my vote unless I feel I've found a good spot for it or if there's some other sensible reason. Only time I really felt motivated to vote was on Voted earlier on, but they were already at L-2 when I got home from work that night and my read on Voted's only weakened since then.

Not super jazzed about the Salad wagon right now since regardless of alignment, he does just seem disengaged from what's going on right now. There's some sense in pushing it in order to try to motivate him more and flesh out proper reads, but I'm skeptical that it'll accomplish much. That's why I tried to talk to Salad earlier, because

I got the sense they'd respond better to a good cop kinda approach.

At the moment I'm trying to figure out how I feel about the SEs, and my gut's telling me that should be my highest priority.

[MaryJoLisa]

The scum team from my POV is clearly clarity and Naveet. We can deal with clearly clarity in the next day phase.

[MaryJoLisa]

I feel like hardly anybody's interacted with me so far, and it's making me lonely

Hey, I feel the same way! Let's interact!

So... With all the Salad/Voted/RCE votes going on, you never changed your vote. Are you thinking about changing it? What made you stick?

Hi!

I don't really like to move my vote unless I feel I've found a good spot for it or if there's some other sensible reason. Only time I really felt motivated to vote was on Voted earlier on, but they were already at L-2 when I got home from work that night and my read on Voted's only weakened since then.

Not super jazzed about the Salad wagon right now since regardless of alignment, he does just seem disengaged from what's going on right now. There's some sense in pushing it in order to try to motivate him more and flesh out proper reads, but I'm skeptical that it'll accomplish much. That's why I tried to talk to Salad earlier, because

I got the sense they'd respond better to a good cop kinda approach.

At the moment I'm trying to figure out how I feel about the SEs, and my gut's telling me that should be my highest priority.

I would never have picked up on that cue.

[Datisi]

Me neither tbh

[TTTT]

if MJL is town
it either was incidental
or was intended to draw a NK onto her slot to save PRs from the NK

[thenavneet]

Well I did not expect that

MJL

yeah I don't think Datisi/MJL works as the scum team
Datisi did not need to CC there to secure a win
risk/reward doesn't make sense from scum POV

Well if you do lynch me they ... secure a win. So uhhh. Does make sense?

I'm genuinely surprised at it being Datisi though.

[thenavneet]

Huh that's supposed to be a vote not a URL

VOTE: MJL

[Datisi]

Can't say I'm genuinely surprised at it being you. I wanted to believe that just this once a Town player legitimately thought I'm town and that it wasn't a buddying attempt. Guess not.

[TTTT]

Well if you do lynch me they ... secure a win. So uhhh. Does make sense?

it maybe makes sense if MJL is RBer and Datisi is goon
but MJL is not RBer with that cop soft day1
if they are the scumteam the goon is the one who should lay the groundwork for the fakeclaim
(kinda like you did)

[MaryJoLisa]

Huh that's supposed to be a vote not a URL

VOTE: MJL

Next time you try this, I think you should put the guilty on your partner. It's pretty late in the game and if you'd fingered your partner (fingered! ) you could have gained town cred when we saw a nice red flip.

[thenavneet]

Well if you do lynch me they ... secure a win. So uhhh. Does make sense?

it maybe makes sense if MJL is RBer and Datisi is goon
but MJL is not RBer with that cop soft day1
if they are the scumteam the goon is the one who should lay the groundwork for the fakeclaim
(kinda like you did)

I don't see why it matters who is which role here today? It's MyLo and if you lynch a Townie, they win. Once Datisi saw me catching MJL all she had to do was CC and you'd believe her. Which is what happened.

[thenavneet]

Huh that's supposed to be a vote not a URL

VOTE: MJL

Next time you try this, I think you should put the guilty on your partner. It's pretty late in the game and if you'd fingered your partner (fingered! ) you could have gained town cred when we saw a nice red flip.

I legit thought this is what you were doing with CC lmao. But apparently you had better ideas!

[TTTT]

I don't see why it matters who is which role here today? It's MyLo and if you lynch a Townie, they win.

it matters bc
1. there's a risk it backfires (with a Neapolitan claim) and then both scum are caught
2. there is still a possibility of a doc if you are cop so mislynch may not end it

[Datisi]

I don't see why it matters who is which role here today? It's MyLo and if you lynch a Townie, they win.

it matters bc
1. there's a risk it backfires (with a Neapolitan claim) and then both scum are caught
2. there is still a possibility of a doc if you are cop so mislynch may not end it

How? Even if Doc saves, it's 2v2,and Mafia won't get lynched?

[TTTT]

I can't count...

[TTTT]

still I'm standing by #1

[Datisi]

still I'm standing by #1

Yeah no objections there

[TTTT]

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Neapolitan	Town Cop and Town Tracker	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Doctor	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Neapolitan and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Doctor

if Nav's is town
based on claimed Cop and being RB'd N1
the setup is A1 or A3
and Datisi is scum CCing with a 50% chance of being CC'd by a Neapolitan
(Doc wouldn't CC due to both JK-Doc and Cop-Doc being in column A)

scum!Datisi
could instead have agreed to lynch her partner MJL
then RB'd and NK'd Nav (claimed cop)
for 3 player lylo

scum!Datisi CCing only makes sense if MJL is RBer
bc the win is significantly harder with just goon

I think that makes sense
but don't really care
bc pretty sure Nav is just scum

[TTTT]

oops...
maybe I just gave scum!Clarity the path to CC as Neapolitan
and force me to make the decision

[TTTT]

given VT claim from MJL
Clarity claims Neapolitan or Doc here regardless of alignment

[TTTT]

Nav's claim confirms column A regardless of his alignment

[Datisi]

How is A confirmed if Nav is scum?

[TTTT]

maybe not confirmed but highly likely
given it's the safest column to claim cop
if it was column B scum!Nav claims Tracker
could still be column C I guess but he claimed he was RB'd

[Datisi]

maybe not confirmed but highly likely
given it's the safest column to claim cop
if it was column B scum!Nav claims Tracker
could still be column C I guess but he claimed he was RB'd

Yeah, he claimed he was RB'd. Doesn't that go in the trash if he's scum?

[MaryJoLisa]

So according to Nav, we can only be in setup A.