Newbie 1926: Baseball (Game Over)

[the worst]

What's your take on DENMON?

[Ryno56]

Scum - Godmid and Teacher (based on everyone else's reads, which make sense)
Suspicious - Lavender (too defensive, not proactive) and Shoshin (too unhelpful when we arent talking about him)
Town - all others

'The problem I'm having is that this site has 10 days for day 1. This is far too long for a day that had basically no information.'

I relate, 10 days seems much too excessive. I'm from Survivor ORGs which have 24 hours for voting. Maybe I'll start enjoying this more as things move forward.

[the worst]

the best way to make the 10 days more exciting is filling it with spicy content
even if you feel like something is a little crazy or reachy, just throw it out and see what people have to say

site meta is closer to 14 day / 2 day phases (which drive me a little crazy when everyone is quiet as well)

[the worst]

we actually host survivor games here too in another part of the site
i played one earlier this year and it was WILD

[Godmid]

I'd also like to see what Godmid's take on the last page is tbh

Denmon's posts where he does talk about being unhappy with his play and how it is largely due to him being not being used to the long days with little information does resonate with me. There have been a few times during the day where I just didn't know how to proceed with scumhunting, and the fact that Denmon has been open about having similar issues is something that made me less sure about his alignment. How he chose to go with his defense is still the type of route I would have expected if he is mafia. When he made his post where he was openly toying with the idea of sheeping the urap2 wagon on me...

Huh, the reasoning given by u r a person 2 is actually pretty good. I'm questioning my read on him because of this...

It quickly became clear that he was getting heavily scum read because of it. If he had have continued to make the transition into pushing for my lynch, he would have been setting himself up for a death sentence tomorrow after my lynch. As such, opting into pushing for the alternative lynch option (Teacher) makes sense from this perspective. It's still possible that he was considering urap's case as town and then ultimately decided that he still leaned town on me, but his attitude change between posts is borderline 180.

Huh, the reasoning given by u r a person 2 is actually pretty good. I'm questioning my read on him because of this...

Then the very next post from him...

However, I don't actually like the reasoning used to call Godmid scum. He is just picking phrases that can seem scummy, but honestly I can do that for anybody and make a case for it. I can see a green saying the stuff that Godmid said that u r a person 2 is saying is suspicious. The reasoning is pretty weak, and we need to focus on the people that are voting, and why they are voting for the best information.

His VT claim was earlier then I would have thought necessary, though I'm not sure if it was scum motivated.


I don't find Urist's case against Teacher to be that convincing, but again, not sure if it's scum motivated. I don't like that even though he is pushing for a lynch target outside of me and Denmon, he hasn't really made any effort to explain why he doesn't scum read us as heavily. It feels more like he is trying to set Teacher up as a day 2 lynch target rather then changing the day 1 lynch target.

Don't really approve of Rhyno pretty much saying that he isn't really going to participate while also saying that he's staying in the game, but I don't think it's that alignment indicative unless he is going after an opportunity to present himself as "not caring enough about his appearance to be scum" as mafia, which I don't think is super likely (boring/cheep way of playing).

[brassherald]

Votecount 1.11

DENMON (3) ~

Godmid, the worst, Teacher

Teacher (3) ~

Lavender, PvtUrist, DENMON

godmid (2) ~

u r a person 2, Ryno56

Lavender (1) ~

Shoshin

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Mod Notes

The day will end 48 hours after I find a replacement for Shoshin, who was prodded twice and has not posted in over 48 hours.

I apologize for delays, I've been having computer problems a bit, and just decided to bite the bullet and order a new one.

[Godmid]

Finishing up with final exams atm so I still don't have as much time. The main thing that I want to respond to is the suspicions about my opening posts. At the start of the game, I was leaning town on Shoshin. My opening post was mostly just a reaction test to see if my read would be reinforced or changed (it ended up being reinforced but then not really mattering when Shoshin started hard lurking and pretty much only posting to avoid getting replaced). It wasn't an attempt to shade Shoshin, set myself up for a push against her or whatever other nefarious purpose players seem to have thought.

[Godmid]

I apologize for delays, I've been having computer problems a bit, and just decided to bite the bullet and order a new one.

I was also recently having laptop problems and ended up having to run a factory reset

Computers suck.

[Ryno56]

the best way to make the 10 days more exciting is filling it with spicy content
even if you feel like something is a little crazy or reachy, just throw it out and see what people have to say

This reminds me of a long car journey with my parents when they tell me to 'entertain myself' lol

[the worst]

Hhhhh godmid is getting townier now things are actually happening and he's also convincing which is scary and I'm not really super confident on DENMON anymore either

Ryno what's concerning me about your play is that although leaping into long days can be intimidating, it is inherently harder for newb!scum to generate content than it is for newb!town. if you have a look at Sasshadin's ISO in this game real quick you'll get a sense for why you're starting to drift back into my pile of people I'm a bit worried about.

I don't think you're playing the game in a way that you're lurking to avoid making content - but even if it's a challenge I really appreciate you trying and engaging with us as much as possible. I kinda want to hear your craziest read.

Lynches I won't support today categorically are urap teacher and Lavender. I don't think I'm wrong on any of them, at most possibly one.

[Ryno56]

If you decide I'm scum then lynch me, otherwise I'll lurk

[Ryno56]

This game is too long and there's nothing to go on

[u r a person 2]

I don't understand why you guys are seeing godmid's recent posts as town indicative??

[the worst]

I don't understand why you guys are seeing godmid's recent posts as town indicative??

Do you see them as wolf indicative? If so show me

if he's scum he's.. not doing anything to further his wincon.. like that last post feels like he's actually trying to accomplish some kind of solving. one before could be distancing sure but in that case it's better to lynch {DENMON, Urist} anyway

[Lavender]

As I was reading through, Denmon seems more suspicious then Godmid. Godmid is doing something at least, such as kind of scum-hunting while Denmon's seems rather line sittey.
VOTE: Denmon

[the worst]

Lavender congratulations you're my new favourite <3
DENMON is L-1 btw. he's already claimed vt. up to you all what we do here but I strongly encourage this lynch

[u r a person 2]

I'm not hammering this, and I'm not a fan of how it went down generally. We have 48 hours from when Brass finds a replacement for shoshin.

Let's talk to the rep

[teacher]

I'm not a fan of how it went down generally.

What in particular did you not like? TW got cold feet on God, and I switched to try to keep momentum to a lynch going when we did have an active deadline concern.

Are you second guessing your TW read again?

Are you suss’ing me?

What’s up?

[teacher]

(Don’t disagree on talking it out, given loss of deadline impetus; I’m still content with my townblock and PoE pool, but can pull the vote if you’re afraid of a quick hammer.)

[u r a person 2]

Are you second guessing your TW read again?

Yeah I guess I am.

I read Godmid's recent activity and thought, "okay, good talk. Let's hammer this" and then the wagon fell apart and I don't see a clear reason as to why.

Which makes me think that there's a scum motivation for pulling off. And if I had to pick who that scum would be it would be TW

But I could absolutely see the scum team as denmon + godmid (which is why associatives bad d1 blah blah) but in that world I'd just be more comfortable over all with godmid.

I guess a red flip from Denmon clears TW more than a red flip from Godmid at this point, but I in the world where only one of them flips green, I think Denmon is more likely to be the green flip.

[brassherald]

Ceejayvinoya replaces Shoshin.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-04-24 20:30:00)

[ceejayvinoya]

Heck yeees.

Gimme like 12 hours to properly catch up and post thoughts here.

I didn't read before repping in, silly me.

[teacher]

would you please update post 0

[teacher]

I'm not really super confident on DENMON anymore either

I strongly encourage this lynch

Less than 12 hrs and no Denmon post in between. I tend to agree with two slots already claimed that it makes sense to focus the lynch there rather than do scums work on a third, but I’d like TW to speak on their own thinking.

The gamestate has understandably slowed. Ryno won’t ask questions or case. My own sense is town is letting their paranoia eat away at a good block due to the lack of advancing. Speaking for myself, my lynch pools or toe reads haven’t shifted much in the past few days and I don’t think the next two days are likely to change them either.

Townlean/daypass: URAp, tw, Lav, Sho/ceejay
Lynchpool: ryno,urist, godmid, Denmon

I’ll go along to get along in there, but like Denmon the most of it myself. Reading the Urist/Denmon double iso is interesting. Denmon’s pred leaves urists skit out of their otherwise complete readslist in 93. And Denmon himself basically never mentions Urist except in an analysis that seems self contradictory.

PvtUrist - Maybe Green - I like how he made a list like this

and gave his thoughts on it

which is a reason why I think he is probably a green. The issue is that there

wasn't actually much thought.

He listed what alignment people were on, but didn't give much thought to say why. I would think that maybe he would put a little more effort as a green.

Seems like a contrived/forced read on a slot they would otherwise be forced to suspect.

[u r a person 2]

what's the count? I can't commit to being here before deadline so if I really have to change to denmon, now would be the time