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[u r a person 2]

CBY could be scum. I don't have a lot of experience with them but I think I expect better questions. This is based on the time they were active, btw, I don't think there's a good argument to be made here for an activity tell considering they have not been active on site

[u r a person 2]

On re read I think Egix is actually probably town

[Inferno390]

Ausuka: what I found opportunistic about Gamr’s vote on Sash is that from my POV, he had no read on that slot before his read list. He was interacting with the slot, but I don’t feel like he was actually forming a read on it, just pushing it. So imo, the narrative goes like this:
Gamr: “Sash is scum”
UR2: “Oh look Sash is scum from ISO” *votes Sash*
*Sash wagon forms*
Gamr: “Oh hey look a Sash wagon” *Votes Sash*

And I agree that Gamr wouldn’t have to elaborate on his read on Sash, but a complete lack of a read seems sus when he comes back and says “oh here’s why.” It feels like he’s forcing the narrative to fit his reads rather than forming the reads to fit his narrative. Sort of like he did to call me scum.
I also find it funny that A) the only people calling me scum are the people I push and B) I never appeared on Gamr’s read list despite having put everyone else on it.

[Inferno390]

That backtrack was hard to read.

[Egix96]

So Egix, which one of us do you think is scum?

Neither atm

[u r a person 2]

I think that if Exilon is town that makes Garmr town nearly 100% because of that interaction about a gambit

[u r a person 2]

That backtrack was hard to read.

Hi, my name is Urap. Delighted to make your acquaintance. =P

[Inferno390]

your sash vote/post was one such post. it's not inherently scummy but it's another post that feels kinda off, and you've made a whole bunch of them.

if a wagon hadn't formed immediately after my Sash vote, would that change how you perceive it?

This a terrible question.
No matter what skitter answers, I can see UR2 turning this into a reason to call skitter scum.

Yes:
“Then you’re scumreading me for no reason. Die scum!”

No:
“Then you’re confabiased against me and are looking for a mislynch. Die scum!”

nice preshade, but I'm pretty confident skitter is town here. The way she has interacted with me - asking to engage, giving assent to me blatantly asking to be allowed to coast and not pushing any sort of scum vibes off that - she's actually interested in sorting me here.

Then why would you ask this question?
If skitter wants to sort you, then shouldn’t she be asking you questions rather than the other way around?
This whole last section feels like you spewing Town in an attempt to get skitter to townread you.
I don’t like that.

[u r a person 2]

Then why would you ask this question?
If skitter wants to sort you, then shouldn’t she be asking you questions rather than the other way around?
This whole last section feels like you spewing Town in an attempt to get skitter to townread you.
I don’t like that.

Why can't I help her along the path? Isn't that what friends are for?

[u r a person 2]

Oh, it is me spewing town, you're right about that. If you're town, that should be a good thing from your perspective. Why isn't it?

[Inferno390]

So Egix, which one of us do you think is scum?

Neither atm

So if Sash is town, who is scum?

[u r a person 2]

Like seriously. Someone has been asking me to provide content so that they can sort me for days. Now I'm providing content and you're shading it with a scum motivation, but what would the townie thing to do be? Not provide content? You're either tunneled or arguing in bad faith

[Inferno390]

Then why would you ask this question?
If skitter wants to sort you, then shouldn’t she be asking you questions rather than the other way around?
This whole last section feels like you spewing Town in an attempt to get skitter to townread you.
I don’t like that.

Why can't I help her along the path? Isn't that what friends are for?

Yeah, see, that’s not how that works and I think you know it.

Oh, it is me spewing town, you're right about that. If you're town, that should be a good thing from your perspective. Why isn't it?

Nice try at another bad question.
Because there a difference between spewing Town and actually acting townie.
Let me put it another way, since my terminology is prob bad: You’re trying to make yourself look Town while not actually being town. In other words, LAMIST. As an attempt to influence skitter.

[Inferno390]

Like seriously. Someone has been asking me to provide content so that they can sort me for days. Now I'm providing content and you're shading it with a scum motivation, but what would the townie thing to do be? Not provide content? You're either tunneled or arguing in bad faith

No one asked you to provide content. They just want to sort you.

Oopsie.

[u r a person 2]

I'm going with tunneled on this one

[u r a person 2]

Like seriously. Someone has been asking me to provide content so that they can sort me for days. Now I'm providing content and you're shading it with a scum motivation, but what would the townie thing to do be? Not provide content? You're either tunneled or arguing in bad faith

No one asked you to provide content. They just want to sort you.

Oopsie.

like this is almost certainly tunneled town

[tris]

Replacing cbynumber

[Inferno390]

Not to mention nothing which you posted is actually sortable content. So there’s that.

[u r a person 2]

so then here's where we're at, order not important

town:
Garmr (unless scum with exilon)
Lil Uzi vert
Ausuka
Urap
Skitter
Egix
Inferno
Bob

not town
exilon
ruirui
cby
Channel
Sashadin

[Inferno390]

Like seriously. Someone has been asking me to provide content so that they can sort me for days. Now I'm providing content and you're shading it with a scum motivation, but what would the townie thing to do be? Not provide content? You're either tunneled or arguing in bad faith

No one asked you to provide content. They just want to sort you.

Oopsie.

like this is almost certainly tunneled town

Catching your mistake is not tunneled town. It’s just observant.
But please keep flailing. It makes my job easier.

[ChannelDelibird]

RuiRui, you seem bizarrely uninterested in your own wagon.

Will put together a Would Lynch/Would Not Lynch list tomorrow with a view to us coalescing towards a lynch. Feels like a lot of people have competing 'pet votes' at the moment.

[Inferno390]

so then here's where we're at, order not important

town:
Garmr (unless scum with exilon)
Lil Uzi vert
Ausuka
Urap
Skitter
Egix
Inferno
Bob

not town
exilon
ruirui
cby
Channel
Sashadin

Again, another mistake. You can’t say Gamr could be scum with Exil, call Gamr town, and Exil possibly scum all in one breath. That doesn’t even make sense.

[Egix96]

So Egix, which one of us do you think is scum?

Neither atm

So if Sash is town, who is scum?

Rui, cby... urap is third I guess, I have everyone else at least null.

[u r a person 2]

Spoiler: Scummy Parts of Rui Rui Iso

You're not comparing the start of the last game to the start of this one, and are instead are looking at my posting from later points of the game - this is a mistake

If you don't lynch me first I'm sure I can appear towny

Hi guys, I don't think that Sash is mafia. I do think cby is suspicious or at least needs more sorting, and I find it weird that people are jumping on me without also considering him

VOTE: cbynumber

Spoiler: townie parts of ruirui's iso

I think I'm going to quit playing Mafia, I always end up being lynched in the first days and that doesn't help town at all.

You're not being lynched right now, only wagoned, and there isn't a lot to go off of at this point in the game

Feeling pretty iffy about RuiRui so far. Most of her posts so far are pretty surface-level stuff ("Inferno, you're moving too fast with your reads" without really talking about what that might mean, or "well now nobody can use that for info" after the comment about reactions to LUV) without truly engaging in anyone's alignment. Need to see more evidence of desire to actively uncover the scum rather than just reacting blandly to a random post here or there.

*Reads her ISO*

I'll admit, you're not wrong there. She does feel underwhelming compared to last game so far.

You're not comparing the start of the last game to the start of this one, and are instead are looking at my posting from later points of the game - this is a mistake

Can you and/or Rui talk about experiences with Inferno as scum?

I just played in a game where he was scum, he was mostly lynched because we had a lot of investigative power to clear other people. I don't know if I'd be able to catch them as scum here, I do think that while his fast entrance today seems different, the circumstances are also different and I think it's something that can be done as scum anyway

Yeah, this is not a bad wagon at all

[u r a person 2]

Again, another mistake. You can’t say Gamr could be scum with Exil, call Gamr town, and Exil possibly scum all in one breath. That doesn’t even make sense.

It makes perfect sense. Gamr is town unless he is scum with precisely exilon. If exilon is town, Gamr is town. If Exilon is scum, Gamr might be scum.