Mini 2072: Timeshift Mafia IV [GAME OVER]
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VC 2.2 (5/7/19)
Latrodectus [L-6]
TTTT [L-3]
Latrodectus, Fuscosco, Rainbow Reads Mastina [L-5]
TTTT Rainbow Reads [L-6]
Time Devil [L-5]
Firebringer Rightodude [L-5]
Rosterfoster Rosterfoster [L-6]
Firebringer [L-3]
Mastina, Time Devil, Rightodude Yahmose [L-6]
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Yahmose, Something_SmartDeadline is 5pm on Sunday 5/19. That is in (expired on 2019-05-19 17:00:00).
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
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“And now the only piece of advice that continues to help / is anyone that's making anything new only breaks something else”
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I want to.In post 673, Firebringer wrote:are u guys seriously gonna lynch the back up cop? Today? Really? before I get results?
However, I recognize there is a much better play to make:
VOTE: rightodude.
No knowledge of THE FUTURE necessary to see why the slot's SCUM.
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Why can't it be all three?In post 678, Latrodectus wrote:A lot of the sketchy slots are on the Mephistophanes lynchwagon; most likely two of these are scum since they're all also really clustered together right in the middle-end of the wagon.
If it helps on the ORIGINAL Mephistophanes mislynch it WASN'T all of those names.
Nobody fits the description of "trying to coast" better than rightodude. Close second, Rainbow Reads. The others on the wagon have done content, which I admit does include even Firebringer.In post 678, Latrodectus wrote:Scum are also likely trying to coast throughout the game based on the general activity of the game and how little attention people have been getting for their amount of activity, and it's relatively low risk to help RC push through his wagon partially because the wagon composition is normally fairly low information when it's RC-led, and partially because there's more risk in outright disobeying RC and potentially drawing his ire (and attention, which the gamestate is helping them avoid).
And WHEN he DOESN'T, what then? TRUST ME, this is a MISTAKE.In post 678, Latrodectus wrote:so TTTT is the only slot left that has good odds of flipping scum outside of the wagon.
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NORMALLY, I would agree with you, on information > scumflip. But ORIGINALLY, we lost in large part due to that mindset. So THIS TIME, let's not repeat the MISTAKES we made and instead focus on LYNCHING SCUM.In post 679, Latrodectus wrote:ftr I scumread rightodude more than TTTT atm but I don't think a rightodude scumflip really helps town
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In post 190, D3f3nd3r wrote:Mephistophanes 39 [L-4]Mastina, Time Devil, Yahmose
Rightodude [L-2]Rosterfoster, TTTT, Ceejayvinoya, Latrodectus, Light_Ganski
Latrodectus, ORIGINALLY, I failed to ask you this: What do you make of the D1 wagon on rightodude, as you--like me--see him as suspect?
Did you come to the same conclusion I did?
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There are no MISTAKES on MY end, but on YOUR end there are. My posts were UNAMBIGUOUS in NOT being EXPLICIT. I NEVER once SAID Mephistophanes was scum. Every time, I SAID to VOTE them; I never SAID to LYNCH them.In post 700, Time Devil wrote:you saying Mephistophanes was always town seems like you're trying to cover up your mistakes
I also SAID when UNVOTING them in the VERY POST you thought was a contradiction THIS VERY THING.
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considering Yahmose's general skill level, that's actually a lot more convincing of a reason than it would be for othersIn post 713, Fuscosco wrote:To be more relevant to the slot I dont have a single read either way on - Thats a weakish reason to TR or SR somebody.
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all three being on is the second most likely possibility, yes.In post 730, mastina wrote:Why can't it be all three?In post 678, Latrodectus wrote:A lot of the sketchy slots are on the Mephistophanes lynchwagon; most likely two of these are scum since they're all also really clustered together right in the middle-end of the wagon.
If it helps on the ORIGINAL Mephistophanes mislynch it WASN'T all of those names.
Nobody fits the description of "trying to coast" better than rightodude. Close second, Rainbow Reads. The others on the wagon have done content, which I admit does include even Firebringer.In post 678, Latrodectus wrote:Scum are also likely trying to coast throughout the game based on the general activity of the game and how little attention people have been getting for their amount of activity, and it's relatively low risk to help RC push through his wagon partially because the wagon composition is normally fairly low information when it's RC-led, and partially because there's more risk in outright disobeying RC and potentially drawing his ire (and attention, which the gamestate is helping them avoid).
And WHEN he DOESN'T, what then? TRUST ME, this is a MISTAKE.In post 678, Latrodectus wrote:so TTTT is the only slot left that has good odds of flipping scum outside of the wagon.
that's one of the reasons I want to flip TTTT today rather than lynch on the wagon, it's a slot that is likely to be scum as well as gives the extra info on whether there really is three scum on the wagon or not; flipping a scum on the wagon doesn't give that same level of information and I don't think any other slot outside the mephisto wagon has good odds of being scum outside of really bizarre circumstances.
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umIn post 731, mastina wrote:NORMALLY, I would agree with you, on information > scumflip. But ORIGINALLY, we lost in large part due to that mindset. So THIS TIME, let's not repeat the MISTAKES we made and instead focus on LYNCHING SCUM.In post 679, Latrodectus wrote:ftr I scumread rightodude more than TTTT atm but I don't think a rightodude scumflip really helps town
what
TTTT is my second strongest scumread
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yeah there's very good odds scum were bussing righto; that actually increases Rainbow Reads' scum equity for the vote location when you account for the Mastina/Latrodectus/Mephistophanes 39 wagon on Light_Ganski at the time, there's a good chunk of towncred to be gained from thatIn post 732, mastina wrote:In post 190, D3f3nd3r wrote:Mephistophanes 39 [L-4]Mastina, Time Devil, Yahmose
Rightodude [L-2]Rosterfoster, TTTT, Ceejayvinoya, Latrodectus, Light_GanskiLatrodectus, ORIGINALLY, I failed to ask you this: What do you make of the D1 wagon on rightodude, as you--like me--see him as suspect?
Did you come to the same conclusion I did?
(My conclusion has NOT CHANGED from scum having THOUGHT that he was obvscum and bussing him, with both buddies present on the wagon at least atsomepoint in time.)
but the other thing it also shows is that if scum have any PRs, it's probably not on rightodude.
or, even if rightodude IS a PR, the towncred gain and gamestate shift from him flipping is worth more than having that PR
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actually I don't think Roster + TTTT can be scum together, I think it's really dissonant for both of them to park on their scumpartner for so long while other wagons are forming and gaining momentum (read: light_ganski) and yet not really do anything the entire time.
that's the sort of play that just looks so awful and I don't think there's such a lack of skill in that scumteam that they'd do something that ridiculous while not trying to push that wagon through entirely.
actually I don't think Roster + TTTT can be scum together, I think it's really dissonant for both of them to park on their scumpartner for so long while other wagons are forming and gaining momentum (read: light_ganski) and yet not really do anything the entire time.
that's the sort of play that just looks so awful and I don't think there's such a lack of skill in that scumteam that they'd do something that ridiculous while not trying to push that wagon through entirely.
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How do we get a lynch today? I am not getting my preferred lynch because u guys just think TD is some village idiot. So what we doing?
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Who is your second choice? That isnt mastina or TD or yourselfIn post 739, Firebringer wrote:How do we get a lynch today? I am not getting my preferred lynch because u guys just think TD is some village idiot. So what we doing?
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TTTT I had as town but the more he remains lull in activity the more I question it.In post 740, Latrodectus wrote:what are your reads on TTTT and rightodude
Rightodude isn't reading the game so got nothing on that.
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Have you read any of Lich's games. He's exactly the person I choose to push as scum because he's so illogical.In post 739, Firebringer wrote:How do we get a lynch today? I am not getting my preferred lynch because u guys just think TD is some village idiot. So what we doing?
Not reading the game
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scummy.I'll vote and talk if it suits meIn post 742, Firebringer wrote:TTTT I had as town but the more he remains lull in activity the more I question it.
but I'm not gonna expend much energy on this game
if you're thinking you might know why I'm acting differently recently
your thinking is probably correct
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It depends if the gamestate is more conducive to town disengagement than scum disengagement.
I'd say right now it's more conducive to town disengagement, but I might be biased because I'm pretty disengaged.
I'd say right now it's more conducive to town disengagement, but I might be biased because I'm pretty disengaged.
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