Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[Creature]

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t have anyone in the failed coalition in this list?

If the veto list was Ank's slot, Clem, Chem and me, what do you think would happen?

[RadiantCowbells]

you and {chem/ank} would die

[Moongrass]

@Moon, why haven’t you responded to this?

Why veto a slot that was A) not in failed coalition and B) no good reason to sr?

A)I included two slots in the coalition and two slots not which seems to be what most of us are doing. My 4 choices are who I would like sorted without losing a potential high input town slot like Ank/PB.
B)I disagree. Maria has some scummy posts.

[Creature]

you and {chem/ank} would die

Exactly

[Moongrass]

Chemist dying isn't bad, why is that town?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t have anyone in the failed coalition in this list?

If the veto list was Ank's slot, Clem, Chem and me, what do you think would happen?

you and {chem/ank} would die

That’s why I think veto bottom 2 slots and exclude the other 2 from 2nd coalition.

[Creature]

What if we veto 1 coalition + 3 non-coalition?

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Moon, why haven’t you responded to this?

Why veto a slot that was A) not in failed coalition and B) no good reason to sr?

A)I included two slots in the coalition and two slots not which seems to be what most of us are doing. My 4 choices are who I would like sorted without losing a potential high input town slot like Ank/PB.
B)I disagree. Maria has some scummy posts.

Link/quote them. Coalition didn’t fail because of Maria. Maria is very unlikely to be scum, so bad vote.

[NanceFloor]

@Moon, why haven’t you responded to this?

Why veto a slot that was A) not in failed coalition and B) no good reason to sr?

A)I included two slots in the coalition and two slots not which seems to be what most of us are doing. My 4 choices are who I would like sorted without losing a potential high input town slot like Ank/PB.
B)I disagree. Maria has some scummy posts.

Link/quote them. Coalition didn’t fail because of Maria. Maria is very unlikely to be scum, so bad vote.

[Moongrass]

Or you could tell me why she's town instead of pushing me off my read just because you said so

[RadiantCowbells]

coalition failed because maria is deepwolfing let's speedlynch her

[NanceFloor]

What if we veto 1 coalition + 3 non-coalition?

I think 1 or 2 tops. Since scum can only kill 2 slots anyway, I don’t see the value of more than 2 coalition slots in veto. I think 2 is optimal for that reason. Let’s say we veto Chemist + 3 non-coalitions? What if Chemist flips green, then we’ve lost the ability to also sort Clemency.

That’s why I have my 2 strongest sr + the 2 weakest coalition members in my veto.

[NanceFloor]

Or you could tell me why she's town instead of pushing me off my read just because you said so

@Moon, why haven’t you responded to this?

Why veto a slot that was A) not in failed coalition and B) no good reason to sr?

A)I included two slots in the coalition and two slots not which seems to be what most of us are doing. My 4 choices are who I would like sorted without losing a potential high input town slot like Ank/PB.
B)I disagree.

Maria has some scummy posts.

You’re the one saying she has “some scummy posts”, so why won’t you back that up?

[Moongrass]

PB I look forward to your thoughts.

[NanceFloor]

coalition failed because maria is deepwolfing let's speedlynch her

[NanceFloor]

PB I look forward to your thoughts.

Why won’t you answer my question? Tell me why Maria is scum.

[Moongrass]

You’re the one saying she has “some scummy posts”, so why won’t you back that up?

I'll elaborate when I feel like it. I trust you have eyes and Maria has a short ISO. It's not rocket science.

[NanceFloor]

You’re the one saying she has “some scummy posts”, so why won’t you back that up?

I'll elaborate when I feel like it. I trust you have eyes and Maria has a short ISO. It's not rocket science.

Yes I have eyes.

Maria was not in coalition nor a consensus sr

and until you explain the basis for your putting Maria in your veto, I’m going to have an issue with it.


That’s the crux of it. Vetoing Maria doesn’t help us find who was scum in the failed coalition and is objectively far from one of the scummiest slots in this game, so vetoing her makes 0 sense.

[MariaR]

coalition failed because maria is deepwolfing let's speedlynch her

G_G

[MariaR]

Moon what you don't get is since you scumread me it's up to you to prove that I'm scum not them to prove I'm town. Because by your logic I am a wolf and holding up the game. They think I'm town and not holding up the game. So I don't get why you're being all picky about it so *shrug*

[Titus]

What if we veto 1 coalition + 3 non-coalition?

I am killing you if I ever get the chance.

Your play today gives zero use to town, seems reactionary af, and derails actual near consensus that we had.

[Titus]

What if we veto 1 coalition + 3 non-coalition?

I think 1 or 2 tops. Since scum can only kill 2 slots anyway, I don’t see the value of more than 2 coalition slots in veto. I think 2 is optimal for that reason. Let’s say we veto Chemist + 3 non-coalitions? What if Chemist flips green, then we’ve lost the ability to also sort Clemency.

That’s why I have my 2 strongest sr + the 2 weakest coalition members in my veto.

I respect this. I still think 4 coalition members is the way to go.

Even if scum eliminate two town, we get rid of two lynchbait. We coalition all outsiders plus tmck.

That either wins or we have a finite universe of scumteam to pick from.

And there's zero scum can do to stop that.

So while I respect your position, I cannot follow the suboptimal path again.

[Titus]

Moon grass, sheep me. You'll live to fight another day and get evidence for your theories at worst. I think you're wrong, but I don't think following me hurts you.

[Titus]

I would rather this:

VOTE: chenn, Over, Titus, TD

or we can actively try to match a scumteam on a veto to make this more interesting.

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t have anyone in the failed coalition in this list?

I think Titus is town.

This is because Creature wants to kill me with the veto.

[Chemist1422]

Okay so wait

Unless I'm dumb and misread I saw people saying "if we put Creature in the veto he's going to die" which implies that they're at least townreading him, so why put him in the veto then?