Newbie 1934: Tundra (Game Over)

[Ausuka]

Cinnamon, Vanilla Townie, survives and wins!
Eggs, Vanilla Townie, survives and wins!
teacher, Vanilla Townie, survives and wins!

Voted, Town Cop, survives and wins!

Menalque, Vanilla Townie, wins posthumously!
Flavour Leaf, Vanilla Townie, wins posthumously!
Irrelephant11, Vanilla Townie, wins posthumously!

The town has won Newbie 1934! Congratulations!

[Ausuka]

Dead PT
Mafia PT

[Irrelephant11]

Yay good game everyone!

This was a great playerlist and all you newbies are awesome! I’ll provide more thoughts later maybe

[Pine]

I feel good about almost weaseling out of that D1 lynch, and respect for you guys sticking to the plan. This was pretty unwinnable for scum after that.

Well played Town!

[Cinnamon]

If anyone has thoughts on my play I'd appreciate it! Good game everyone

[Flavor Leaf]

Yay

[Pine]

If anyone has thoughts on my play I'd appreciate it! Good game everyone

Trust your gut. You waffled a bit.

There’s merit to cautious skepticism of what your senses are telling you, but in the end you’ve got to step back and trust yourself.

Playing Town is a bit like those 3-D visual puzzles. Step back, let your eyes go out of focus, and see the bigger picture.

You’re off to a fine start.

[teacher]

Cinnamon - I thought you played quite a strong game. One issue with how you play, that can work to your advantage but will get you suspected, is that you are guarded. I see you thinking through posts. Editing them. Worried about how they might be perceived Not just typing and sending. I think you could towntell more just by flowing.

The second piece of advice is to be more confident about your own reads. I felt like you got pushed by others views. Take others views into account, sure. But use them to adjust your confidence levels in your own views, rather than to chance what yours are.

This was truly a fun civil game. Thank you all.

@Pine, now that its not game-relevant, do you really think posting-flakes are the same as forgot-about-site flakes?

[teacher]

Also, since it should be said in a newb, NEVER hammer yourself as town.

Yes, Flavor, I did think you were scummiest and the best lynch. But whatever "surface-level" you think Im playing on, youll note I pushed scum while you pushed town.

[Pine]

Cinnamon - I thought you played quite a strong game. One issue with how you play, that can work to your advantage but will get you suspected, is that you are guarded. I see you thinking through posts. Editing them. Worried about how they might be perceived Not just typing and sending. I think you could towntell more just by flowing.

The second piece of advice is to be more confident about your own reads. I felt like you got pushed by others views. Take others views into account, sure. But use them to adjust your confidence levels in your own views, rather than to chance what yours are.

This was truly a fun civil game. Thank you all.

@Pine, now that its not game-relevant, do you really think posting-flakes are the same as forgot-about-site flakes?

Flaking for whatever reason is probably never really AI. You're conflating flaking and lurking; lurking is when you stick around and don't post. Flaking is when something outside the game, either loss of interest or forgetfulness or something else, disrupts your presence completely. Out of game factors = NAI. Cherry-picked and massaged statistics from a small sample set don't prove your point.

[Eggs]

Thanks folks and thanks Asuka. Interesting game.

[Voted]

Why did you kill Irrelephant and not me N2?
Heh, I am glad that all my strongest townreads (SEs) were correct.

[Eggs]

I'm sorry for being boneheaded day 2 FL, I was of the opinion that you were as likely as Baezu to be scum, but also worried that you pride yourself on your ability to talk your way out of lynches. And at that point I can't really have a sensible conversation because I think it is likely I would be unable to differentiate town you and scum you trying to get out of a lynch.

Plus I had a lynch pool of two point five and that townread of Baezu had me stumped on where else to go.

[Eggs]

Thanks to your signature for the warning not to trust!

[Irrelephant11]

Cinnamon - You're great! I agree with teacher's analysis that your thoughts and words read as though you've really thought them through - that sorta cuts against site meta for towniness, which is part of why I scumread you, but it also made your analysis really clear and useful! Hopefully I won't tunnel you next time, because I really enjoyed playing with you once I started reading you accurately.
Voted - your gambits were more useful in getting me to townread you than in accomplishing what the gambits were for, I think. But keep trying things out! I liked the pressure to get Pine to claim especially. - the only thing here is I was pretty sure you were TPR based on the fact that a vt wouldn't know which of Pine's claims would be a lie. You got away with it, here, though. Nice.
Menalque - Way to town. it. up. You were obviously town, mostly due to your deep level of thought. Good luck replicating that as scum later!
Eggs - Strong analysis, clear reads, the ability to communicate well? You're a threat to any scumteam.

Uncle Bob and navneet - I hope you two return! You both had strong scum entrances and I definitely wouldn't have scumread you so strongly if you had just... kept playing!

teacher - the best town partner, as always <3
Flavor - Sorry I couldn't shout down your mislynch sooner! In my defense I didn't think you'd self vote.

[Irrelephant11]

If y'all liked the small playerlist, but want a wide variety of setups - check out the Micro Queue, where all games are 9 players or less! Right now skygazer's Black Site is in signups - NOTE: It uses the Geriatric Ruleset, which limits how often you are allowed post, to allow for a slower game that is easier to keep up with.
It just so happens there's also a 9-player game in signups in the Normal Queue, where the setups are hidden but follow Official Normal Setup Guidelines. Sign up soon, it's filling fast!
And what a coincidence, there's a 9-player game in the Open Queue, where all setups are public information. Grey Flag Nightless makes small changes to some basic rules of mafia, and there are no power roles.

You are not required to have any number of finished games to join these or other queues, so check them out! If you want to play another game with me, the one game I'm in signups for is Schadd's Mystery Box of Silver 5, a large theme game with a heavy third party (alignments other than town or mafia) element. Schadd is notorious for making setups that are impossible to predict and that lead to gameplay that is equally unpredictable. It's a HUGE jump from the newbie queue, but it's never too early to get absolutely in over your head

[Menalque]

@baezu, why the NK on me N1? I appreciate that I was being townread, but I also wasn’t on you at all. Was it to throw suspicion on FL to get a mislynch D2?

@irrelephant, thanks! I’m looking forward to trying, but also a bit apprehensive

And, sadly, that schadd game does have an experience requirement, otherwise I’d be signing up

@all you were a really fun group to play with, and I hope to see you in games again!

[Irrelephant11]

And, sadly, that schadd game does have an experience requirement, otherwise I’d be signing up

Whoops! true. I'm sure we'll run into each other again though

[ClearlyClarity]

(Psst, that Normal game is run by yours truly who will love you forever if you signed up <3)

[Flavor Leaf]

Lol, my lynch day 2 was best once I realized Voted was town.

I town hunt generally early games.

Baezu messages me post game saying she knew I knew she was scum, but I couldn’t turn or I’d get lynched. She felt bad for abusing me, haha.

I also didn’t want the day to go longer because I didn’t want goted to get found out, and Irrelephant was the obvious night kill at that time, so he had to get killed.

I didn’t want others to have to waffle against me either, and once I correctly town read Teacher as just tunneling, me dying only lead to scum getting lynched later.

Eggs, no worries. Baezu positioned Day 1 for that to happen. I knew something was off in Day 1, and I didn’t think Baezu would play the way she did, which is why she apologized to me.

I had Uncle Bob real early on as scum, and didn’t town read until baezu came in, which was exactly the point of her play. That’s why she apologized, but obviously she didn’t have to. She made the correct play in that sense. Unfortunately Pine just went down

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh yeah, never hammer yourself!

There are rarely situations that you would want to. I get mislynched about once a year, sometimes more, so this was kind of funny. But yeah, I needed the day to end specifically so voted didn’t get outed as PR, because Irrelephant was he obvious night kill at the time. I hope that makes sense.

I also Mod A LOT of games on this site, I generally run games in the Large Theme Queue, and they’re pretty wild and colorful, but if you ever want a normal ish game that’s going to be highkey actually pretty wild, check out the BooneyToonz games. I’d love to have any of you in em. (I mod on an account called Boonskiies.)

[Voted]

I would have claimed tracker, not cop if I were to claim D2. Since there were 2 goons, I wouldn't get killed anyway.

[Voted]

If y'all liked the small playerlist, but want a wide variety of setups - check out the Micro Queue, where all games are 9 players or less! Right now skygazer's Black Site is in signups - NOTE: It uses the Geriatric Ruleset, which limits how often you are allowed post, to allow for a slower game that is easier to keep up with.
It just so happens there's also a 9-player game in signups in the Normal Queue, where the setups are hidden but follow Official Normal Setup Guidelines. Sign up soon, it's filling fast!
And what a coincidence, there's a 9-player game in the Open Queue, where all setups are public information. Grey Flag Nightless makes small changes to some basic rules of mafia, and there are no power roles.

You are not required to have any number of finished games to join these or other queues, so check them out! If you want to play another game with me, the one game I'm in signups for is Schadd's Mystery Box of Silver 5, a large theme game with a heavy third party (alignments other than town or mafia) element. Schadd is notorious for making setups that are impossible to predict and that lead to gameplay that is equally unpredictable. It's a HUGE jump from the newbie queue, but it's never too early to get absolutely in over your head

Must play games with Irrelephant for this kind of posts. Must.

[Pine]

I would have claimed tracker, not cop if I were to claim D2. Since there were 2 goons, I wouldn't get killed anyway.

Fakeclaiming as Town is rarely a good idea, especially in an Open setup. I respect the desire to employ anti-WIFOM, but in an Open Newbie it had a lot more potential to backfire.

[Voted]

Claiming cop has "potential" of perma RB/ instant nightkill.
Tracker claim at least gives 1 night of results.