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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:30 am

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You have me & Skitter voting Nero. I don't see why you'd vote Flubb instead.
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:33 am

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In post 1924, u r a person 2 wrote:Not really, no, but just my luck you do! Gimme the nero profiles =P
Nero's an aggressive townie. Lurking isn't town Nero (notice how he's sort of triggered by the fact that I lurked as town, he hates town lurkers). Popping in to call me "scared scum" isn't town Nero. Lynching a cop claim on D1 without more in-depth thinking isn't town Nero. Arguing that I'm more likely to lurk as town than scum based on a sample size of one town game and zero scum games isn't town Nero. This isn't complicated, U2. The fact you don't want to vote him reflects very poorly on you.
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:34 am

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In post 1916, Shoshin wrote:Buj, please vote Nero.
He's literally the 6th scummiest person if I were forced to put them in order.

So no. Not day 1
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:34 am

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Can you just stop with the whole nagl thing? it's kind of a bore
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:35 am

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Why'd you vote Flubb instead of Nero? What's your thinking?
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:36 am

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It's also kind of nuts to call nero a lurker this game? he's got almost 200 posts
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:36 am

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What is town nero, as you understand it?
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:36 am

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like, that was part of the question
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:37 am

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I don't know if i want to laugh or cry when I see an obvious scum fakeclaiming cop trying to dictate town around lol

It's depressing.
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:38 am

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In post 1927, NerfedBuJ wrote:
In post 1916, Shoshin wrote:Buj, please vote Nero.
He's literally the 6th scummiest person if I were forced to put them in order.

So no. Not day 1
Actually I kind of flip flop with my replacement scumreads. My first team scum pool is solid.

Dunn / Flubb / Nero I guess I fluctuate on who's townier.

So nero is between 4th - 6th scummiest
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:38 am

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Kind of just hoping we will just win before having to lynch someone on the bench
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:39 am

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Why are you townreading Nero, Buj?
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:40 am

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I'm still waiting for U2 to explain why he voted Flubb over Nero.
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:41 am

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Buj, you believe that U2 is scum, right?
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:49 am

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@shoshin I talked about this somewhere in the mid 40's (pages)

His entire play around your slot was bad. When ED was holding the slot, his read was based upon everyone elses read on ED to the exclusion of a read of his own. Then the vote on you was awful

take a stroll through his or my iso. flubber is a good vote, and I kind of think you're scum reading nero for personality reasons
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:49 am

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In post 1938, Shoshin wrote:Buj, you believe that U2 is scum, right?
Buj would also be a good vote
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:52 am

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In post 1595, Nero Cain wrote:in my limited exp. with Shosin she's a lurksack as town so the hyperactivity means this is prob scum.

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In post 1601, Shoshin wrote:Why are you ignoring the specific evidence that I hate playing scum & lurk even more as scum than town?
I have no such evidence and I haven't looked at any links or anything if they've been provided. I just know you were a town lurksack in RC's upick. You aren't being a lurksack here b/c ???
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In post 1607, Shoshin wrote:I think Nero's probably scum. He's not trying to sort me in good faith. I highly doubt he believes what he's saying about me without at least reading my posts to see if they're towny/scummy.
just like Nom was town until he started pushing you. You OMGUS scum read that pushes you and its not town.
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In post 1639, Shoshin wrote:You shouldn't lynch me today. Give me a shot to find the scum. Lynch me tomorrow if my reads are wrong. Apply BoP.
this argument is really bad and looks like scum angling to be kept alive for a night. If we lynch not you today and the person you flip doesn't flip scum then you'll argue that just b/c you were wrong once it's not enough time to tell.

of course, you could be scum and bus so maybe its an offer we should think about?
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You're ignoring the vast majority of evidence to push an entirely made-up story that I lurk more as town than scum. Would you do this as town?
It wasn't something I was ignoring b/c it's no something that I was aware of and thus it's impossible for me to ignore. But its not why I'm pushing you now so you can take your manipulative pressure point statement to the dead thread.
Why are you voting Flubb over Nero if you think Nero's scummy, U2? I want you to interrogate Nero's reasoning for voting me. I'm not scumreading him for personality, I'm scumreading him because his reasons to vote me are made-up & contextually the vote is opportunistic scum. Replace him with anyone else, almost any other player, and it's still scum.
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:55 am

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In post 1939, u r a person 2 wrote:@shoshin I talked about this somewhere in the mid 40's (pages)
This is such a bizarre response to my question of why Flubb over Nero. It's amazing how much work you're doing to dodge this very simple question about your recent behavior.
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:02 am

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In post 1939, u r a person 2 wrote:@shoshin I talked about this somewhere in the mid 40's (pages)

His entire play around your slot was bad. When ED was holding the slot, his read was based upon everyone elses read on ED to the exclusion of a read of his own. Then the vote on you was awful

take a stroll through his or my iso. flubber is a good vote, and I kind of think you're scum reading nero for personality reasons
what dodge?

the rest of the post had your answer lol
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:07 am

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In post 1936, Shoshin wrote:Why are you townreading Nero, Buj?
I dunno like I see how he's different from other games, but he also feels very similar at the same time in terms of like 'nero energy'. He has the same sort of antagonistic ignore scumreads attitude, joke around here and there that I've gotten quite used to.

His responses to my direct questions regarding vork and cinnamon were satisfactory in that I'm convinced it CAN come from town nero. I feel his approach towards nom and his early reads were similar enough to mine that it doesn't feel off.

There are good reasons to suspect nero. Maybe more so from my pov than anyone else's with my history of interacting with nero. But both he and I have evolved our game, and it'd be naive to think someone will play town the same way all the time. Especially when we just recently had a game where me, nom, and nero were all town and we lost because town had WILDLY different approaches to the game and reads. From just my last few games with him it is very possible that nero is a little burned out from being like top poster tunnel your scumreads to death and take over every page of the game kind of play and has taken a more passive approach. I know it's unwise to make excuses like that, but these things do actually happen, he's just as human as the rest of us and because of that I think any sort of read that centers around activity or his more passive approach to pushing scumreads might not actually be AI.

So I guess it boils down to I don't hate everything he's done this game, some of his earlier scumcases have been pretty damn good actually, and there's some subtle similarities to his town mentality, and last but definitely not least THERE ARE WAY SCUMMIER SLOTS THAT HE HIMSELF HAS PUSHED and if they flip scum I think it would clear him.
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:09 am

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I'm not asking if Flubb's a good vote, U2. I'm asking why Flubb OVER Nero.

Why is my read on Nero for "personality"? I don't get why you put so much work into discrediting my reads. Please explain.
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:11 am

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I can already tell this game is lost.
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:14 am

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I think the resistance to the Nero wagon is very telling about Nero's alignment.
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