Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

sigh

i'm asking the question from his point of view if he's town whereby someone else has to be scum.

i'm not saying that he's town.

[Baezu]

ok

VOTE: RC/TD

obviously it's optimal fmpov to rank 0K/TD but if Titus is concerned about me this is the exact worst setup for scum me, so i'd rather just do this.

also im pretty sure from ur PoV I can be scum as well.

well, yes. I'm talking to you as if you're town because if you're not town there's no point in talking with you.

This won’t help Titus at all bc if you’re on top, you can still be scum from her POV

Of course we would prefer

VOTE: overkill/RC

[Baezu]

We can let her decide which two of us she would like clarification on

[Time Devil]

ok

VOTE: RC/TD

obviously it's optimal fmpov to rank 0K/TD but if Titus is concerned about me this is the exact worst setup for scum me, so i'd rather just do this.

also im pretty sure from ur PoV I can be scum as well.

well, yes. I'm talking to you as if you're town because if you're not town there's no point in talking with you.

This won’t help Titus at all bc if you’re on top, you can still be scum from her POV

Of course we would prefer

VOTE: overkill/RC

We can let her decide which two of us she would like clarification on

[RadiantCowbells]

that's not my point. if we do 0verkill/rc and you're scum you can put 0verkill in the clear spot and kill him and make me 1v1 you with Titus as clear
i refuse to play that lylo out. if you're scum I want to be the clear because I don't think I can win in a 1v1 against you.

the distinctions in the ranks are pretty unimportant outside of preventing that specific eventuality

[RadiantCowbells]

like it doesn't really interfere with scum's choices that much, they still end up in 1v1s, it only affects who ends up being the clear

keeping in mind that if i'm scum i can just kill titus regardless

[RadiantCowbells]

i realize that regardless of alignment that argument is not particularly convincing to you, but it would show a lot of good faith if you voted with me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Not answering that yet, want to do an in-depth meta dive when im done with my homework

when is this going to be because i would like to see you give reads before a pairing is hammered

[RadiantCowbells]

if you're town you owe this game better: you've done nothing for several day phases and you apologized for a lack of contribution by hammering town.
you've coasted on scumreading chennis on D2 but everyone left scumread him on D2, so.

I don't want to lose because you aren't trying to win this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

in case anyone (Titus) feels that I'm playing both sides right now by planning around TD being scum while thinking that 0verkill is more likely to be scum:
if 0verkill is scum I believe that town wins virtually no matter what happens. I don't think that scum overkill wins basically any lylo matchup, even with Titus as clear and me 1v1ing him.

As a result the optimal play is to play around me being wrong since town doesn't lose in that world so now I want to optimize town's chances of winning in the other world, IE TD town.
I don't think Titus votes right in TD vs me if it comes down to it so I want to avoid that matchup by putting myself in the pool when I wouldn't otherwise have to.

the only world where town wins 3 way where TD is scum is the one where I'm cleared, ergo I want to be cleared in that universe.

[RadiantCowbells]

meant TD scum on line 3. hope the meaning was pretty understandable.

[RadiantCowbells]

(there's also no real improvement in any matchups by pairing myself with 0k: he would be clearing me tomorrow anyway since TD has made her stances pretty clear.)

[0verki11]

Not answering that yet, want to do an in-depth meta dive when im done with my homework

when is this going to be because i would like to see you give reads before a pairing is hammered

a couple of hours most likely.

[0verki11]

just dont hammer gg ez

[Time Devil]

I’m honestly even willing to do TD and overkill as the two in rank

[0verki11]

Why dont we just do the correct play of ranking me and TD

[0verki11]

yes correct that is what we will probably end up doing

[Time Devil]

If RC is scum, I wonder which of you or I he will put on top

[0verki11]

ok

VOTE: RC/TD

obviously it's optimal fmpov to rank 0K/TD but if Titus is concerned about me this is the exact worst setup for scum me, so i'd rather just do this.

also im pretty sure from ur PoV I can be scum as well.

well, yes. I'm talking to you as if you're town because if you're not town there's no point in talking with you.

This won’t help Titus at all bc if you’re on top, you can still be scum from her POV

Of course we would prefer

VOTE: overkill/RC

RC please tell me you can see this.

[0verki11]

If RC is scum, I wonder which of you or I he will put on top

And this is a discussion that isnt needed

[Time Devil]

Why am I more likely to be scum than RC?

Of the two of us, he has extensive experience with gambitting, game setup and everything else. TL and I are mediocre at best.

[Time Devil]

Why isn’t it needed? Because you’re the last scum OK?

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't understand how either of you, as town, think it's towards your wincondition to pursue being paired with each other.

TD, if you're paranoid about me being scum wouldn't you want to avoid being potentially put in a 1v1 with me when 0verkill has already expressed a scumread on you as opposed to being cleared and being able to make the decision yourself who is scum?

0verkill, you understand that TD scum just nightkills you and plays 3 way with me and Titus and Titus votes me every time there?

[Time Devil]

I currently townread RC over 0K

I think 0K should be in the rank regardless

-TL

[RadiantCowbells]

what particularly is your motivation for thinking 0k is in the rank, explain it to me?