Mini 2084: Pokemon Ruby Mafia - Game Over

[Micc]

Votecount 1.04

Detective Pikachu (2) -

Klick, Creature

Cinnamon (2) -

EspressoPatronum, RedPanda

Lil Uzi Vert (2) -

Tim Goodman, Detective Pikachu

EspressoPatronum (1) -

Cinnamon

Klick (1) -

ClearlyClarity

Chemist1422 (1) -

Pink Ball

Red Panda (1) -

u r a person 2

Creature (1) -

ceejayvinoya

Not Voting (2) -

Chemist1422, Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-07-05 01:00:00).

[EspressoPatronum]

VOTE: luv

Blatant Tim sheep btw

[Detective Pikachu]

Yep

[EspressoPatronum]

Interested to hear some thoughts from the following people:

u r a person 2
Lil Uzi Vert
Cinnamon
ClearlyClarity

Lurker scum can be pretty dangerous. These four haven't posted much yet.

I think this looks good though

Espresso can be town

Why can’t this post come from scum? I disagree with his take on lurker scum to be honest.

You disagree that lurker scum can be dangerous?? Please elaborate.

You are unable to mislead, misdirect, and manipulate consistently if you’re lurking.

I've read several guides on forum maf over the last two weeks to help shore up my forum inexperience. Most guides say that successful maf teams have a combination of "deep threats" and manipulators. Manipulators stir up confusion, lead mislynches, and stall before they're picked off by lynches or PRs. Deep threats are responsible for blending in and making it to the end game to solidify a win.

You're right that lurkers can't manipulate consistently, but I would argue that you're overlooking potential deep threats.

Fwiw, I recognize that active players can still be deep threats, but I'd say lurkers are the more likely candidates. Lurking into deep threat has a smaller margin of error to being active (ie. Fewer chances to slip) and it requires less effort.

With all that theory in mind, I think focusing on lurkers has two benefits:
1. You limit the pool of lurker scum deep threats; and
2. Even if you lynch town, a lurker town is less valuable than an active town.

[EspressoPatronum]

Anyone with experience, please feel free to jump in on the lurker post above. I'm interested to hear your perspective on the matter, as I know focusing/not focusing on lurkers is a fairly contentious topic.

[Chemist1422]

I'm happy calling EP/CC/Chemist town. Creature I'm less confident on but I'd still call it a town lean. Of the more prolific posters in the last couple of pages, LUV isn't giving me particularly good vibes.

Can you share why/how you got to your scumread of me? As it stands, it looks like it's either a bandwagon read or an OMGUS.

Honestly? You're right. Sorry. I signed up for too many games and I've always been more miserable in games outside of Newbie queue. I hate being in the dark about reads. Your posting has actually been p towny and I OMGUS'd out of annoyance.

Thanks for the honesty. If you find the time over the next few days, can you drop a quick post on people who feel the most scummy? We can @ you with specifics from there.

UNVOTE:

Got my sights set on URAP and Cinnamon now. Hoping to see more content from them tomorrow.

I'm not really sure what more content you want to see right now. It's kind of weird that you say that when I've posted my reads and you haven't interacted with them at all.

I like this post, feels genuine

Talk to me about this? I had the opposite reaction.

I think it just reads like indignant townie, I think scum is more likely to shift their play to appease the people pushing them

[Chemist1422]

Anyone with experience, please feel free to jump in on the lurker post above. I'm interested to hear your perspective on the matter, as I know focusing/not focusing on lurkers is a fairly contentious topic.

I’m not experienced, and only arguably if you count all of the forums I’ve played on, but I think it’s better to just read lurkers based on what they do say while they are posting. They shouldn’t be read any differently because of their activity level.

[Creature]

Haha ragequitters

[Creature]

lmao RC voting a pole

[Detective Pikachu]

Haha ragequitters

lmao RC voting a pole

lazy

Cinna is siteflaking

what is a 'pole'?

[Detective Pikachu]

"lazy" should not have appeared in that post, glitched autocomplete from mobile posting

[Creature]

what is a 'pole'?

[Creature]

Creature amusingly is scum very often this game.

RC amusingly is wrong very often this game.

[Creature]

I'm happy calling Chemist town

He did nothing out of his scum range though?

[Creature]

VOTE: luv

That's not a good vote, Pikachu.

[Creature]

Your play here also isn't making much sense with what you're describing to be feeling like.

[Chemist1422]

I'm happy calling Chemist town

He did nothing out of his scum range though?

iirc you’re the only one here who’s played with scum!me

[Creature]

I'm happy calling Chemist town

He did nothing out of his scum range though?

iirc you’re the only one here who’s played with scum!me

Yeh, but I'm not satisfied.

[Klick]

I'm not familiar with his particular Mafia meta - my read was based on this game. The only other time I've interacted with Chemist was in an LSG (and in that giant not-really-Mafia game). Any games in particular that support the fact that he hasn't acted differently than he does as scum?

[Detective Pikachu]

Your play here also isn't making much sense with what you're describing to be feeling like.

You're saying town!me doesn't lazily sheep RC until he has a solve when I'm feeling meh about the game?

[Micc]

Prodding ceejayvinoya.

[Tim Goodman]

Creature amusingly is scum very often this game.

RC amusingly is wrong very often this game.

Seems very outside of standard operating procedure for you to just shrug and say that I'm wrong without calling me scum.

[Creature]

Creature amusingly is scum very often this game.

RC amusingly is wrong very often this game.

Seems very outside of standard operating procedure for you to just shrug and say that I'm wrong without calling me scum.

It's worthless to call you scum atm.

[Tim Goodman]

If you actually effort at this game and comfortably spew yourself town I'm willing to not pursue a lynch that you veto today. How does that sound?

[Tim Goodman]

I do think URAP is the scummiest player in the game aside from the lurking but I'm not sure if I'm just gonna push him when he's busy

Could vote Klick I guess.