Role Call I (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry if I've excessively framed Momo as a policy lynch; its not.

If he was treating any other slot like he is treating ours I would treat him as confirmed scum.
While it has happened on occasion that town have behaved this way towards my slots, even if significantly less frequently than scum doing it, I think that the high odds of a scum flip + the benefits of

discouraging that play by policy lynching it

by far outweigh not lynching him on the off chance that he's not scum. It's just a good lynch in general, discouraging play I don't like is icing on the cake.

Er what

[Gamma Emerald]

I also think that giving us the Day 5 IC removes any even slight motivation for scum to not kill us immediately.

Killing a D5 IC on N1?? Over an Inventor & a Gladiator??

This. His entire plan is based on a false assumption that he would be NKd. Over inventor, gladiator, and KING if that goes to town.

King is a volatile role like Vigilante: just because the user is town doesn't mean the role helps town.

[momo]

Given that the possibility of our slot being scum has been the single largest discussion of the game so far and I don't want to play an entire game of that, I'd rather not try to create incentives for scum not to remove us from the game so let's just give us the IC, kill Momo for having a terrible scumread on me, and make MariaR hydra the universal backup because I scumread the shit out of both heads and would like to find a resolution to that issue that doesn't involve having to push a lynch on them.

I agree with this post quite a lot. Btw the reason I'm okay with momo dying isn't just reads but the way it seems they're trying to command the game, they seem to be wanting a leader position without outright calling themselves a leader. The execution of the scumteam guess feeds into this feeling.

this is actually really valid criticism

my response is that i'm trying to lynch the people that i think are scum...since nobody else is taking initiative, i am...if someone more articulate than me wanted to push someone i think could be scum, i would take a backseat

[momo]

I also think that giving us the Day 5 IC removes any even slight motivation for scum to not kill us immediately.

Killing a D5 IC on N1?? Over an Inventor & a Gladiator??

This. His entire plan is based on a false assumption that he would be NKd. Over inventor, gladiator, and KING if that goes to town.

King is a volatile role like Vigilante: just because the user is town doesn't mean the role helps town.

true, but unless the role goes to someone who is completely of in their reads, scum would want to consider NKing earlier than a D5 IC

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

almost50

you 'still' have not addressed my read on Momo, why?

I have, and long before this silly feud started.

momo is the towniest slot in the game

. He was when I said it and he still is.

What I'm trying to decide is YOUR alignment, because deciding that could be the difference between us winning or losing the game (as either alignment. If you're town and I SR you we lose. If you're scum and I TR you we lose. If you're scum and I SR you we may have a chance. If you're town and I TR you our chance is bigger).

So I think I'm not passing any official proposals until I've decided on your slot.

aight ok

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

momo's scum btw

[Gamma Emerald]

LUV my guy, how did u write all of that in less than a minute.

Any chance I can buy your hands?

Yeah wtf

[Gamma Emerald]

LUV my guy, how did u write all of that in less than a minute.

Any chance I can buy your hands?

I don’t like catching up in real time so I just comment on what I want and then post it all in one go.

Ok

I don't pretend to get this mindset but ok

[callforjudgement]

Sothis Stefon Styx is being replaced.

[Oversoul]

i think 236 essentially confirms that they're scum in the game

or scum outside of it

. that's the lynch today. again, idc where anything else goes as long as the inventor goes to town.

What does the bolded mean?

My fear is that I don’t want inactive given to someone who easily gets disengaged or is showing signs of disengagement.

Hmm.. why would this cause someone to become inactive? It just makes them a vanilla townie or a goon. Although, if your hunch is true, I doubt a goon would replace out.

Would you rather he gives you the silent treat (I'm not positive, but I think you don't like to play with Wisdom)

he should be trying to convince other people that I'm scum, not me.

I thought that was the purpose of his wall of colors. My primary issue with Momo is that I do not believe him when he says all of his scumreads were independent.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm willing to take the Day 5 IC and not get to play multiple day phases of the game if Momo is lynched today with us and MariaR hydra takes the universal backup.

How does that sound?

I already think momo's proposed scumteam isn't very good so I'm ok with them being ejected

Honestly this is flipping rn

[momo]

i think 236 essentially confirms that they're scum in the game

or scum outside of it

. that's the lynch today. again, idc where anything else goes as long as the inventor goes to town.

What does the bolded mean?

My fear is that I don’t want inactive given to someone who easily gets disengaged or is showing signs of disengagement.

Hmm.. why would this cause someone to become inactive? It just makes them a vanilla townie or a goon. Although, if your hunch is true, I doubt a goon would replace out.

Would you rather he gives you the silent treat (I'm not positive, but I think you don't like to play with Wisdom)

he should be trying to convince other people that I'm scum, not me.

I thought that was the purpose of his wall of colors. My primary issue with Momo is that I do not believe him when he says all of his scumreads were independent.

They were originally independent. Then I looked for associations in between them. You yourself agreed that sadude was kinda scummy. I had a light SR on you from D1. And my SR on RC should be clear by now.

I'll admit that out of the three, you were my first, but also the one i'm least confident in. Like I said earlier, my SR on you was the equivalent of an RVS SR.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Sothis Stefan Styx Slot

[Almost50]

Sothis Stefon Styx is being replaced.

[callforjudgement]

Titus replaces Sothis Stefon Styx.

[Oversoul]

Oh no.

[momo]

Sothis Stefon Styx is being replaced.

He's scum.

There was a game I played in, Access Point by FakeGod that had RC in it as scum.

I was able to read that slot very well (him, replaced by Alisae, replaced by someone else I can't remember).

He asked to be treated like a normal player, not policy. He brought up one of his previous games out of context. He got mad at the unfair treatment. And then he replaced out.

He was scum. I called it. I got NKd for it.

But eventually the slot got taken care of and town one the game.

Same thing happened here.

He's scum.

[Almost50]

Oh, shit! One scum lord replaced by one scum lord"ess" (so to speak)

Hello, Titus. I hope your health is getting better. Also, tell Math I miss playing with him.

Now odd we go: let's lynch TITUS.

I honestly don't know about RC's replace out, but if I was in a hydra and replaced out shouldn't the other head take over as dingle player? The fact that Baezu never posted and didn't take over is pinging more than the fact RV replaced out.

[momo]

Oh, shit! One scum lord replaced by one scum lord"ess" (so to speak)

Hello, Titus. I hope your health is getting better. Also, tell Math I miss playing with him.

Now odd we go: let's lynch TITUS.

I honestly don't know about RC's replace out, but if I was in a hydra and replaced out shouldn't the other head take over as dingle player? The fact that Baezu never posted and didn't take over is pinging more than the fact RV replaced out.

Yeah, too many reasons are piling up for this lynch.

I stand by my statement that RC is a good player. But he made clear mistakes.

[callforjudgement]

Game status

There is no active proposal.
There have been no previous proposals.
List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(14): Hidden Happiness, Iconeum, popsofctown, Oversoul, apthet, Nero Cain, momo, Vecna, CheekyTeeky, Almost50. Gamma Emerald. Lil Uzi Vert, Saudade, Titus

Proposal unavailable

(0):

nobody

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Deadline is currently 00:05 UTC on Friday 12 July (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-07-12 00:05:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count

Saudade

(2): Iconeum, Saudade

Hidden Happiness

(2): Iconeum, popsofctown

Nero Cain

(1): Oversoul

Vecna

(1): Hidden Happiness

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.

[momo]

Titus replaces Sothis Stefon Styx.

Titus, I love your avatar, and it's awesome you agreed to replace so quickly.

Sorry you had to be scum.

If you could tell us what's happening in scumchat (which you obviously are checking before you post in this thread) before we lynch you, it would be much appreciated.

[Titus]

Hey I am subbing for the hydra. I am also drunk.

Try to lynch me but I have zero access to RC hydra chat.

He probably subbed out to preserve his won percentage.

No matter. We"ll lynch thevscum and win.

[Almost50]

This is the second iteration. I made minor changes overall. I still haven't changed the stronger roles though.

Timid = Hidden Happiness (Shadoweh/MariaR hydra)
Vanilla = Iconeum
Inventor = popsofctown
Day 5 Innocent Child = Oversoul
Miller = apthet
Neighbour = Nero Cain
1-shot Gladiator = momo
Day 3 King = Vecna
Night 1 Universal Backup = CheekyTeeky
Neighbour = Almost50
Odd-Night Motion Detector = Gamma Emerald
Macho = Lil Uzi Vert
Inactive = Saudade
Compulsive Quitter = Sothis Stefon Styx (RadiantCowbells/Baezu hydra)

[Oversoul]

He probably subbed out to preserve his won percentage.

[momo]

He probably subbed out to preserve his won percentage.

Hold up, this confirms that RC slot was scum.

Because u only sub out to preseve the win percentage if you're about to be lynched as scum. If you're town, you can still win.

Guys Titus scum slipped. She is drunk.