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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:10 am

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wait nvm I’m dumb
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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:14 am

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In post 985, Micc wrote:
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Firebringer (7) -
Pink Ball,
Tim Goodman, Detective Pikachu,
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Gamma Emerald (1) -
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Menalque (1) -
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ofrhz
Detective Pikachu (1) -
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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:17 am

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Apologies for wasting time yesterday, Pikachu. My gut pinged at every other post of yours and I couldn't back down.

I need to reevaluate.
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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:32 am

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In post 977, Creature wrote:If FB is town then yeah Tim is scum

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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:15 am

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In post 648, Tim Goodman wrote:from that list

Firebringer and Creature are better than the remaining slots for sure

soooo

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Very notable is that DP was fine sheeping me 'til I led on Ofrhz then tried to wagon someone else
Also Menalque came in swinging to counterwagon Ofhrz lol
In post 1022, Creature wrote:I trust RC on Menalque and ofrhz.
The Ofrhz rationale looks a little weaker now that DP is basically conf!town.

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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:32 am

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Guess today should be more dynamic otherwise we most likely will be swayed to town rathern than scum.
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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:38 am

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Okay I missed something, apparently
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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:42 am

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If I had the info scum are either all on Firebringer wagon or out of the Firebringer wagon, I'd say the latter.

The Firebringer wagon like happened almost spontaneously, so didn't necessarily need scum putting effort in, specially considering Firebringer already made himself pretty lynchable.
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:43 am

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However, if there's scum on it, it's most likely RedPanda, because I can easily see scum!RP taking FB's selfvote as a free hammer pass.
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:44 am

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In post 1032, Creature wrote:If I had the info scum are either all on Firebringer wagon or out of the Firebringer wagon, I'd say the latter.

The Firebringer wagon like happened almost spontaneously, so didn't necessarily need scum putting effort in, specially considering Firebringer already made himself pretty lynchable.
They would still want to make sure they were not all voting the same way (ie. they all wouldn't want to be off of FB).

I'd guess 1 on, 2 off.
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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:45 am

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2 off, one on maybe? I agree it's probably scum light but I wouldn't assume 0

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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:46 am

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In post 1034, EspressoPatronum wrote:they all wouldn't want to be off of FB
Actually that's like paradise for scum.

Imagine town blaming the players on FB wagon and putting all focus on them, while all scum stay out of focus.
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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:47 am

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Scum would rather none of them being on the wagon > 1-2 of them being on the wagon > all of them being on the wagon.

They only vote if the mislynch don't get achieved otherwise/may get redirected to one of themselves.
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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:51 am

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It has a lot with disposition though... some scum would prefer to be on a mislynch to show activity and willingness to have a meaningful vote even if they know it's a mislynch. You're right tho that with town frontloaded and tim cheerleading scum didn't have to do much
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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:53 am

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In post 1032, Creature wrote:If I had the info scum are either all on Firebringer wagon or out of the Firebringer wagon, I'd say the latter.
This is more that I find more likely to find scum offwagon than on wagon.
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:53 am

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From my experience, scum usually likes to be part of irrelevant wagons that may get credit some time later (or not).
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:53 am

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Creature what happened to you, I can't read you like that
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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:13 am

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VOTE: Creature

You've used a lot of words and posts to say absolutely nothing on this page.
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:19 am

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In post 1041, Pink Ball wrote:Creature what happened to you, I can't read you like that
With a stronger town power role dead I want to make sure one scum gets lynched today otherwise this game may easily go to a loss based on experiences.
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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:21 am

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We're getting swayed to townreads like LUV's slot because we've had a potential accurate townblock and that leads to things getting easily swayed.

So most likely our early reads were actually good.
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:41 am

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LUV slot was awful, Creature. But that's not the point. I want to townread you 'cause you're putting a lot of effort that I'm not planning to put into
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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:42 am

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But I can't townread you if you keep posting like that 'cause it looks like you're trying to control town rather than help it
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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 1034, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 1032, Creature wrote:If I had the info scum are either all on Firebringer wagon or out of the Firebringer wagon, I'd say the latter.

The Firebringer wagon like happened almost spontaneously, so didn't necessarily need scum putting effort in, specially considering Firebringer already made himself pretty lynchable.
They would still want to make sure they were not all voting the same way (ie. they all wouldn't want to be off of FB).

I'd guess 1 on, 2 off.
Can someone explain why this is a philosophy because it seems ripe for abuse
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:01 pm

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In post 1047, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1034, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 1032, Creature wrote:If I had the info scum are either all on Firebringer wagon or out of the Firebringer wagon, I'd say the latter.

The Firebringer wagon like happened almost spontaneously, so didn't necessarily need scum putting effort in, specially considering Firebringer already made himself pretty lynchable.
They would still want to make sure they were not all voting the same way (ie. they all wouldn't want to be off of FB).

I'd guess 1 on, 2 off.
Can someone explain why this is a philosophy because it seems ripe for abuse
It makes it harder for town to use vote counts for information later in the game.
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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:39 pm

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How? Is VCA really that important to you? Imo 90% of the time it's a minor help at best.
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