Newbie 1943: Crosswords (Game Over)

[Spangled]

And cyrus to scumread someone based on one thing you think is vaguely scummy is not how to find scum.
It's hard for scum to look towny, and refusing to look over someone's ISO or case them doesn't help town, especially when said ISO could show them to be towny.

[cyrus62]

And cyrus to scumread someone based on one thing you think is vaguely scummy is not how to find scum.
It's hard for scum to look towny, and refusing to look over someone's ISO or case them doesn't help town, especially when said ISO could show them to be towny.

you pushed after they soft you wouldnt back down you were told it was bad for town scum could have used it later or thougt they might not be tellung the truth you only hurt town and now we have a less cance of wining this game . i dont think anything you two did helped town in any way and i will let red cyan and rob wigh in on this.

[Sera Masumi]

Actually let me correct myself; I was quickly reading the setups and made an error- if there is a cop in the setup, there's a 25% chance of a Doctor, which makes the second quote not as terrible. And we're not lynching a cop claim that will resolve itself- scum will NK it tonight, so.

[cyrus62]

note i havent voted yet so yes you two got 2 points for that play and i wont vote till some one has 10 points

[cyrus62]

ask your self this if i was scum why would i be pisst off about them being found on day 1?

[cyrus62]

ask your self this if i was scum why would i be pisst off about pr being found on day 1?

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[Adorable]

These are the players I have been suspecting so far.

Red - Town reads Phone but Phone's vote on Robb was suspicious and I start to get the feeling Red is scum who knows Phone will flip town, I didn't understand Red's vote reason on Robb and he said the scum team are between these players Temp, Cyan, Robb, or Connor. I can't remember the 4th player but I think it was Connor he mentioned.

Phone - 4th person to vote Robb and said Robb was overreacting to an rvs vote and that is not a good vote reason.

Connor/Sera - 3rd person to vote Robb and says he is open to trying new things and just says Robb is scum without even explaining why. Sera subs in for Connor and puts Temp on the scum list but I have seen so many town flip flopping and I've hardly ever seen scum flip flopping.

Cyan - Hard to read him and I saw it suspicious of him to just follow other players on scum reading Robb when pretty much most of the players were scum reading Robb except for 2 players at the time.

[cyrus62]

These are the players I have been suspecting so far.

Red - Town reads Phone but Phone's vote on Robb was suspicious and I start to get the feeling Red is scum who knows Phone will flip town, I didn't understand Red's vote reason on Robb and he said the scum team are between these players Temp, Cyan, Robb, or Connor. I can't remember the 4th player but I think it was Connor he mentioned.

Phone - 4th person to vote Robb and said Robb was overreacting to an rvs vote and that is not a good vote reason.

Connor/Sera - 3rd person to vote Robb and says he is open to trying new things and just says Robb is scum without even explaining why. Sera subs in for Connor and puts Temp on the scum list but I have seen so many town flip flopping and I've hardly ever seen scum flip flopping.

Cyan - Hard to read him and I saw it suspicious of him to just follow other players on scum reading Robb when pretty much most of the players were scum reading Robb except for 2 players at the time.

ty kido sorry about my pust bust i just didnt see what they did was in any way good for town.

[Spangled]

And cyrus to scumread someone based on one thing you think is vaguely scummy is not how to find scum.
It's hard for scum to look towny, and refusing to look over someone's ISO or case them doesn't help town, especially when said ISO could show them to be towny.

you pushed after they soft you wouldnt back down you were told it was bad for town scum could have used it later or thougt they might not be tellung the truth you only hurt town and now we have a less cance of wining this game . i dont think anything you two did helped town in any way and i will let red cyan and rob wigh in on this.

I actually didn't realise it when Temporal started softing; only looking back (albeit two minutes later) did I see it. And I doesn't matter anyway; the moment he softed he was lost to the NK.

[cyrus62]

And cyrus to scumread someone based on one thing you think is vaguely scummy is not how to find scum.
It's hard for scum to look towny, and refusing to look over someone's ISO or case them doesn't help town, especially when said ISO could show them to be towny.

you pushed after they soft you wouldnt back down you were told it was bad for town scum could have used it later or thougt they might not be tellung the truth you only hurt town and now we have a less cance of wining this game . i dont think anything you two did helped town in any way and i will let red cyan and rob wigh in on this.

I actually didn't realise it when Temporal started softing; only looking back (albeit two minutes later) did I see it. And I doesn't matter anyway; the moment he softed he was lost to the NK.

spanled if i if anit hard on you on this they think im scum i know you didnt know better so i anit as pisst off at you as i am at her k you didnt push so hard .

[Sera Masumi]

spanled if i if anit hard on you on this they think im scum i know you didnt know better so i anit as pisst off at you as i am at her k you didnt push so hard .

Question: You think Temp is scum. What do you do in this scenario?

[Sera Masumi]

Like I'm legit kind of annoyed at both you and Temp if you're town, which at this point is not entirely implausible, but you know, it's a game. Gotta let it go.

Don't agree with #556 but I like it; think it comes from a sincere place.

[cyrus62]

spanled if i if anit hard on you on this they think im scum i know you didnt know better so i anit as pisst off at you as i am at her k you didnt push so hard .

Question: You think Temp is scum. What do you do in this scenario?

i wait tell theres more poe where i can build a better case and then i go for it there wasnt very much poe you went with they are flip floping what do you think town dose .

[Spangled]

spanled if i if anit hard on you on this they think im scum i know you didnt know better so i anit as pisst off at you as i am at her k you didnt push so hard .

Question: You think Temp is scum. What do you do in this scenario?

i wait tell theres more poe where i can build a better case and then i go for it there wasnt very much poe you went with they are flip floping what do you think town dose .

We didn't really have many other scumreads though. It would be nice if the PoE grew smaller, but especially as Red and Robb are staying far away from this game, we didn't really have many options other than the ones we took.

@Temporal, who do you think is scum?

[cyrus62]

Spoiler:

spanled if i if anit hard on you on this they think im scum i know you didnt know better so i anit as pisst off at you as i am at her k you didnt push so hard .

Question: You think Temp is scum. What do you do in this scenario?

i wait tell theres more poe where i can build a better case and then i go for it there wasnt very much poe you went with they are flip floping what do you think town dose .

We didn't really have many other scumreads though. It would be nice if the PoE grew smaller, but especially as Red and Robb are staying far away from this game, we didn't really have many options other than the ones we took.

@Temporal, who do you think is scum?

you do realize all you did was help scum right not town temps most likely going to point at you two now so now town is fighting and this also doesnt help town.

[Cyan Talon]

OK, back again and here are my thoughts:

On one hand, I'm not really a fan of Spangled pushing for the claim, since any PR claim is grounds for scum to make a PR kill later at night. But it's even less beneficial for town if we lynch the PR in question, so this puts Cyrus's argument in the spotlight as being fairly flawed. At the moment, I think that Spangled pushing for the claim sounds like paranoid town, but it's another of those things which is indicative of both alignments.

I still think Sera's case makes some sense, but with the claim coming from Temporal I'm going to have to call it probably a wasted effort unless it turns out he's faking the claim as scum. I just wish her posts could be a little on the shorter and more concise side of things, but having a lot to say isn't any hurtful for town.

[Cyan Talon]

Alright might as well mediumclaim:

I know 300% Phone's "claim" is a fakeclaim

A cop claim. Alright.
If there are real PRs out there, could one claim?
And if anyone lolhammers you are trying to gamethrow.

and on this note, anyone voting TemporalLich should probably get off right about now

[Cyan Talon]

i now however scum red spangled and the new guy for pushing for a pr clime so easy.

They pushed for the claim because they had suspicions and wanted them confirmed. If a person behaving weirdly is trying to allude that they are PR or is unintentionally doing so, asking them to confirm it actually makes it a little more helpful, since scum are much better at catching such softs than town, and claiming allows the town to gain the advantage scum would have had regardless.

[TemporalLich]

i now however scum red spangled and the new guy for pushing for a pr clime so easy.

They pushed for the claim because they had suspicions and wanted them confirmed. If a person behaving weirdly is trying to allude that they are PR or is unintentionally doing so, asking them to confirm it actually makes it a little more helpful, since scum are much better at catching such softs than town, and claiming allows the town to gain the advantage scum would have had regardless.

in that case I guess I did what I had to do.

[cyrus62]

[quote="In post 567, Cyan Talon"]They pushed for the claim because they had suspicions and wanted them confirmed. If a person behaving weirdly is trying to allude that they are PR or is unintentionally doing so, asking them to confirm it actually makes it a little more helpful, since scum are much better at catching such softs than town, and claiming allows the town to[/quote then lets hope theres a doc right other wise all this did was get a pr killed

[cyrus62]

OK, back again and here are my thoughts:

On one hand, I'm not really a fan of Spangled pushing for the claim, since any PR claim is grounds for scum to make a PR kill later at night. But it's even less beneficial for town if we lynch the PR in question, so this puts Cyrus's argument in the spotlight as being fairly flawed. At the moment, I think that Spangled pushing for the claim sounds like paranoid town, but it's another of those things which is indicative of both alignments.

I still think Sera's case makes some sense, but with the claim coming from Temporal I'm going to have to call it probably a wasted effort unless it turns out he's faking the claim as scum. I just wish her posts could be a little on the shorter and more concise side of things, but having a lot to say isn't any hurtful for town.

so im bad for getting pisst you realize there is only a 25 chance of a doc and cop so we could end up with no pr

[Cyan Talon]

They pushed for the claim because they had suspicions and wanted them confirmed. If a person behaving weirdly is trying to allude that they are PR or is unintentionally doing so, asking them to confirm it actually makes it a little more helpful, since scum are much better at catching such softs than town, and claiming allows the town to[/quote then lets hope theres a doc right other wise all this did was get a pr killed

Have you been paying attention to what I said? If Temporal had already softed PR, he'd be dead no matter what. By claiming he lets the town know as well, so scum don't have any greater advantage.

Temporal is most likely going to die tonight. Claiming wouldn't have changed that.

[Cyan Talon]

OK, back again and here are my thoughts:

On one hand, I'm not really a fan of Spangled pushing for the claim, since any PR claim is grounds for scum to make a PR kill later at night. But it's even less beneficial for town if we lynch the PR in question, so this puts Cyrus's argument in the spotlight as being fairly flawed. At the moment, I think that Spangled pushing for the claim sounds like paranoid town, but it's another of those things which is indicative of both alignments.

I still think Sera's case makes some sense, but with the claim coming from Temporal I'm going to have to call it probably a wasted effort unless it turns out he's faking the claim as scum. I just wish her posts could be a little on the shorter and more concise side of things, but having a lot to say isn't any hurtful for town.

so im bad for getting pisst you realize there is only a 25 chance of a doc and cop so we could end up with no pr

Would you rather we lynch the PR?

[cyrus62]

OK, back again and here are my thoughts:

On one hand, I'm not really a fan of Spangled pushing for the claim, since any PR claim is grounds for scum to make a PR kill later at night. But it's even less beneficial for town if we lynch the PR in question, so this puts Cyrus's argument in the spotlight as being fairly flawed. At the moment, I think that Spangled pushing for the claim sounds like paranoid town, but it's another of those things which is indicative of both alignments.

I still think Sera's case makes some sense, but with the claim coming from Temporal I'm going to have to call it probably a wasted effort unless it turns out he's faking the claim as scum. I just wish her posts could be a little on the shorter and more concise side of things, but having a lot to say isn't any hurtful for town.

so im bad for getting pisst you realize there is only a 25 chance of a doc and cop so we could end up with no pr

Would you rather we lynch the PR?

i was trying to stop the whole thing they playd like a pr thats why i was not for it at all they didnt do nothing scummy the whole thing was a bad wagon we should look at whos on it

[Spangled]

Spoiler:

spanled if i if anit hard on you on this they think im scum i know you didnt know better so i anit as pisst off at you as i am at her k you didnt push so hard .

Question: You think Temp is scum. What do you do in this scenario?

i wait tell theres more poe where i can build a better case and then i go for it there wasnt very much poe you went with they are flip floping what do you think town dose .

We didn't really have many other scumreads though. It would be nice if the PoE grew smaller, but especially as Red and Robb are staying far away from this game, we didn't really have many options other than the ones we took.

@Temporal, who do you think is scum?

you do realize all you did was help scum right not town temps most likely going to point at you two now so now town is fighting and this also doesnt help town.

cyrus, I want Temporal's opinions, especially since we're treating him as conf!town.
And what we did only helped scum, in the long run, true, but there's a flip side; we thought Temporal was scum, and wanted to lynch him.
And if he was scum and we lynched him, then that would have been good in the long run; better even than this was bad.