Role Call I (Game Over)

Vecna · Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:03 pm

In post 1327, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1251, Vecna wrote:Feels to me your more busy trying to look good in this exchange over anything else
What a meaningless platitude.

Good thing your posts have such encyclopedic depth to them

Vecna · Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:05 pm

In post 1332, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1226, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1115, Almost50 wrote:giving me Gladiator and Nero the Backup = NKing me and giving Nero a worthless role (one he can't use w.o. the other players' consent). I'd be OK if you gave me King, Motion Detector or Inventor for Nero to inherit that.
awww, you care about what role I get.

but glad isn't useless. I can lynch scum with it and in the event that I'm wrong and tunneling bad town I can lynch them and move on. Win-Win for us.
I do. You're my top TR as we speak. And it's a bad role because using it w.o. town consent will be seen as a scummy move, and since there's literally 0 chance everybody will agree to using it to lynch a specific player it is never going to be used.

Now what if people actually did agree to lynch that someone? They could vote literally any proposal that does result in lynching them anyway, so same thing.

Explain to me why nero is your top town read. Titus also make a similair statement without explenation.

popsofctown · Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:05 pm

Vecna to what extent should I think your argument with Nero Cain indicates you two don't share an alignment?

This game needs more old fashioned scumhunting and less arguing over the watered down PRs. Probably.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:14 pm

In post 1349, popsofctown wrote:1348 seems like a scummy post
Since it benefit Vecna to be good at reading Saudade now that Saudade is gone
Unless Vecna is thinking about the next time he plays with Saudade
But uh that's not something most people wanna spend time thinking about

Wha- how?

Vecna · Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:15 pm

In post 1349, popsofctown wrote:1348 seems like a scummy post
Since it benefit Vecna to be good at reading Saudade now that Saudade is gone
Unless Vecna is thinking about the next time he plays with Saudade
But uh that's not something most people wanna spend time thinking about

I like showing with mostly new crowds that my reads can be decent. Especially when theres certain people shading me at every turn.

popsofctown · Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:17 pm

like, Vecna is trying to pretend like he's happy about something, like his win% went up based on pisskop's posts

But if pisskop just rose up to the same townread he had on Saudade his win% didn't go up that much.

Also he lost a possible opportunity for win% if pisskop replaced in and had a mega-scummy catchup

It seems like he's making sure to display an emotion but it turns out to be one that's not quite appropriate

I'm not like looking to assign him inactive or compulsive quitter just the kinda thing I feel like pointing out in case someone rereads the game in some intense 3 man lylo or something

popsofctown · Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:19 pm

pls no ego.mafia
the game is so much more fun when we all play humble

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:21 pm

Pops you never cease to confuse the fuck out of me

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:21 pm

Maybe me and pops need a neighborhood so I can figure what the hell he's saying

Vecna · Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:26 pm

In post 1352, popsofctown wrote:Vecna to what extent should I think your argument with Nero Cain indicates you two don't share an alignment?

This game needs more old fashioned scumhunting and less arguing over the watered down PRs. Probably.

I honestly dont know. Hes doing a ton of shit that could either be constructed as mega scummy or just "classic nero cain".

Im still 50/50 on the slot, but all his crap definately isnt helping me sort the slot.

The one thing that is giving me pause is his unwillingness to realize that all the shit hes doing is easily construed/interpreted by people as coming from scum. Hes refusing to see any other side besides his "this is my town logic and if u cant see how it naturally comes from town ur a retard". Not sure if im explaining it properly.

But then on the other side of that coin theres the overly simplistic potshots, like the case where iconeum copies my post - like that is ever something scum does. Or the overly simplistic team of me-icon-cheeky. Just all seems so dodgy, and logic that should never come from a deductive mindset.

Thats my reason for my question to A50. It just again fits way too well with A50 (and maybe Titus) knowing the slot is town, and delighting from the sidelines in seeing this useless fight go down. Nero IS hard to read, and he has the exact same antagonistic playstyle as scum. They know that just as well, so I want to know.....how can Nero be your strongest townread in this game of people that have exceptional at towntelling?

Vecna · Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:28 pm

In post 1355, popsofctown wrote:like, Vecna is trying to pretend like he's happy about something, like his win% went up based on pisskop's posts

But if pisskop just rose up to the same townread he had on Saudade his win% didn't go up that much.

Also he lost a possible opportunity for win% if pisskop replaced in and had a mega-scummy catchup

It seems like he's making sure to display an emotion but it turns out to be one that's not quite appropriate

I'm not like looking to assign him inactive or compulsive quitter just the kinda thing I feel like pointing out in case someone rereads the game in some intense 3 man lylo or something

Honestly, youre reading too much into it. It was just an ego post, confirming that my initial read of a hard to sort slot, that everyone was scumreading, was accurate.

Vecna · Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:30 pm

In post 1356, popsofctown wrote:pls no ego.mafia
the game is so much more fun when we all play humble

fair enough, it is also more a reminder to myself for later days what my impressions are so I dont do something stupid. I wasnt under the impression such posts would rub anyone the wrong way.

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:16 am

Just a reminder that I am the best mafia player in the world and you should all do my bidding.

Hidden Happiness · Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:03 am

I don't think anyone expressed scumreading Saudade actually, they just requested Inactive themselves and no one argued otherwise. I like pisskop's catchup myself and agree on giving them something else. Maybe a neighbour since they seem pretty hyperactive and having somewhere to channel that isn't a bad idea.

- Shadoweh

momo · Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:55 am

Does anyone know if pisskop is normally this active, and if he does catch ups in this format as town?

apthet · Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:02 am

In post 1178, Hidden Happiness wrote:I hate IC so fucking much and I don't want it but my partner does and it's just ughhhhhhh

Annoying, but I buy this.
Willing to have Hidden as town at this point.

In post 1246, pisskop wrote:In fact, as scum Id be much, much more apt to try to punish people for saying they do want power. :IGMEOU:

I like this post. I think it's a good point and also looking for perspective from scum.
I don't like his readslist.
He's good for town I think but I also think it's easier to pounce in as a replacement with a good catchup especially since you're looking at things retroactively. Still though, town.

In post 1344, callforjudgement wrote:Just a reminder that you have to answer your prod with a substantive post within 36 hours (for the first prod). This post doesn't count.

I don't know about that. I was substantively exhausted.

In post 1356, popsofctown wrote:pls no ego.mafia
the game is so much more fun when we all play humble

Request: pops and I as neighbors so that we can be better friends.

Oversoul · Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:12 am

In post 1359, Vecna wrote:The one thing that is giving me pause is his unwillingness to realize that all the shit hes doing is easily construed/interpreted by people as coming from scum. Hes refusing to see any other side besides his "this is my town logic and if u cant see how it naturally comes from town ur a retard". Not sure if im explaining it properly

Welcome to Nero Cain ladies and gentlemen

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:09 am

In post 1362, CheekyTeeky wrote:Just a reminder that I am the best mafia player in the world and you should all do my bidding.

no

Oversoul · Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:19 am

Is the proposal dead yet?

callforjudgement · Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:47 am

Game statusFailed proposals:

Spoiler: momo's proposal

Spoiler: Vecna's proposal

Spoiler: popsofctown's proposal

Current proposal

(by Lil Uzi Vert):

1-shot Gladiator
: Almost50
Inactive
: pisskop
Day 5 Innocent Child
: Oversoul
Inventor
: popsofctown
Day 3 King
: apthet
Macho
: Gamma Emerald
Miller
: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector
: Lil Uzi Vert
Neighbour
: Titus
Neighbour
: Vecna
Timid
: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup
: Nero Cain
Vanilla
: Iconeum
Compulsive Quitter
: CheekyTeeky

For

(2): Lil Uzi Vert, Titus

Against

(6): Almost50, Hidden Happiness, popsofctown, momo, Nero Cain, Oversoul

Not voting

(6): Iconeum, apthet, pisskop, CheekyTeeky, Vecna, Gamma Emerald

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(10): Hidden Happiness, Iconeum, Oversoul, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Almost50, Gamma Emerald, pisskop, Titus

Proposal unavailable

(4): momo, Vecna, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Iconeum is V/LA this weekend.
Deadline is currently 00:05 UTC on Wednesday 24 July (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-07-24 00:05:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count

Iconeum

(1): Oversoul

CheekyTeeky

(1): popsofctown

Hidden Happiness

(1): Iconeum

Vecna

(1): Hidden Happiness

momo

(1): pisskop

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.

Vecna · Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:03 am

VOTE: against

callforjudgement · Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:10 am