Role Call I (Game Over)

Creature · Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:45 am

I just may still struggle to get anything relevant.

Creature · Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:47 am

I can take the miller because it's indeed stupid to ever check me.

Creature · Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:47 am

I could also take Timid alternatively because I'm already naturally timid anyway.

Creature · Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:48 am

I townread apthet tbh

Vecna · Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:48 am

In post 1987, AP wrote:
In post 609, momo wrote:
In post 608, popsofctown wrote:
In post 606, Oversoul wrote:I feel like Day5 IC is almost wasted on... almost.
Yeah. Swap GE and Almost and I'd vote to pass that
Sure....
However, that would mean that if we lynch Titus/HH/CT and the game isn't over yet, our next lynch is likely A50 instead of Gamma.

Making likely lynch order Titus/HH/CT/a50/GE

By making a50 IC likely lynch order is
Titus/HH/CT/a50/GE

Obviously this is subject to change and heavily dependent to Titus flipping scum.

Is that the path we want to take.

Because rn, reading the game, I'm pretty sure of those five people, 3 are scum.

If only 2 out of those 5 are scum, D6 becomes MyLo.

Thoughts?
If momo is scum, chances of having the other 2 in this proposed pool are slimmer than the chances he got all 3 scums in there and he is town.

Nut that is not "just it".

The proposal draft he is discussing is:

In post 605, momo wrote:
In post 603, Vecna wrote:not like its a new thought momo, but yeah it does look like 3/4 in RC/Hh/CT/GE
Knowing that Vecna, if we reject the current proposal, would you consider proposing this one:

Gladiator - Gamma Emerald

Inactive - Saudude

D5 IC - Almost50

Inventor - Iconeum

D3 King - popsofctown

Macho - CheekyTeeky

Miller - Vecna
Odd Night Motion Detector - apthet
Neighbor - Lil Uzi Vert

Neighbor- momo

Timid - Hidden Happiness

N1 Universal Backup - Nero Cain
Vanilla - Oversoul

Compulsive Quitter - Titus

Weaker roles go to the suspected scum. Greater chance of passing cause more ppl are likely to be happy with it.
Applying my theory here gives: momo manipulates LUV in the hood (LUV already said he's not good with hoods iirc)

Edit: Yup. 244

So, LUV gets pocketed, Saudade can't get actions, apthet is neutralized through the Rolestop on the scum performing the kill. And they only need to shoot Icon & Nero (not necessarily in that order) to be in total control of the game (or at least that's how it looks for today's list of roles).

There's more that I could say here regarding the mechanics and optimal use of roles, but I feel some of it might be anti-town as it could give scum new ideas.

Oof. the weird part is, this post reads like you actually really believe what youre writing. It doesnt feel like a fabricated train of thought.

its like completely opposite world of anything ive interpreted in the game, but thats an entirely different topic altogether.

Creature · Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:49 am

Spoiler:

In post 1951, apthet wrote:
In post 1784, pisskop wrote:
Mad Libs!I saw the post from Jingle, in which he
unhelpfully
described the roles that were
up for assignment
. When I read it, I felt
somewhat uncomfortable
that he would
spend so much time on something
so
empty
. I liked how it was

from someone who replaced someone I thought was town
and stated
I'm struggling to find something that fits here
so
deal with it, haters
. When I
read Jingle's next post
I want to be
convinced that they are good and towny
like
Oversoul's posts were
.

apthet
is still
perfect and amazing
, and nothing you say will
change
that. When I think about them, I am
truly dazzled and entralled
. I
am in love with
the current
way that apthet conducts herself
, and you should
think the same thing
, yourself.

In post 1810, Vecna wrote:pure mindblend. he says the things I think so often, even when its some of the more out there type of thoughts. Things that dont occur to scum to talk about.
I've been flipping back and forth on pops for this whole game. Would appreciate if you linked some of those things (maybe we saw the same things, though).

In post 1815, AP wrote:@Creature: Vote AGAINST. At least give me hope. I'm @L-1 with you, Jingle, apthet & pisskop not voting, and that's even assuming the mod will count Nero Cain's (Gollum) vote against.
Ugh... maybe it's the alt gimmick, but I have literally
never
seen this reaction coming from scum on the chopping block. I know I sound like a broken record but out of the current mainstream options I really do prefer Titus (and I think Cheeky is better than AP for that matter).

Spoiler: Yet another example of popsofctown being a really cool person that I wish I could locktown so that we can just be friends.
In post 1829, popsofctown wrote:I don't keep up with my W/L record but if I did I would probably count all replace-outs as losses and I would definitely treat all "replaced out because I anticipated a loss"es as losses
But really what does your record matter anyway
The idea of someone maintaining a record is also concerning because there's a family of strategies including but not limited to trust telling that are more effective for winning groups of games than they are for winning each game as though it's your last. But the latter is far more interesting and more fair to teammates and opponents.
IDK offtopic rant.

In post 1861, Vecna wrote:These are always the moments i hate. When the gratification of finally seeing a flip is so close.. yet it might still take forever to happen.
What do you think about AP's super focused / defensive reaction to the wagon?
Does anyone know if he's done this before?

In post 1923, Creature wrote:
In post 1918, Vecna wrote:but if you vote in favour of this wonderful proposal, you'll at least have some time to catch up
This same proposal is suggesting me to not have any power role for the rest of the game though.
Ugh, town post. ><

In post 1943, Creature wrote:if I obvtown enough
Another town post! These replacements are really shaking things up.

This seemed pretty good

Creature · Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:49 am

I think AP should be preserved atleast for today based on last page.

Vecna · Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:49 am

In post 1989, popsofctown wrote:Austin do you independently SR momo

also wondering about this

Vecna · Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:56 am

In post 1991, AP wrote:I mean, just look at 609 FGS. He's lining up FIVE lynches ahead. FIVE. All scum need id 4 mislynches to win this. So, yeah, without amy other association he sure looks like scum trying to manipulate the game in his favor.

This just feels disingenous. Surely this cannot be the reason for a scumread?

For starters, town is much more likely to speak their mind on such matters, have the flow of thoughts to think of a path towards victory based on their current reads. Scum will be afraid tonattract exactly the type of post it has now.

Secondly, the entire post actually resonated with me, and I agreed with nearly everything at that time. making it even harder to fake.

I really dont see how a player like momo, who had the timid scumplaystyle of lurk and die, transformed into a scumplayer that takes on town RC, calmly dismantles every argument, sets him up to die, and comes up with completely coherent reads that scream town and creates that plan.

Im not buying it that town A50 rereads this and actually believes this to be the case.

nope.

Vecna · Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:31 am

In post 2053, AP wrote:Amd here is what I have against pisskop (well, Saudade.. whatever): @given time, pops says Saudade is proddable 1168. 93 minutes later HH changed their vote from for to against (the proposal had Saudade as Inactive). 34 minutes later the mod posts a VC, then a minute later says Saudade has been prodded, but only 26 minutes later declares Saudade is being replaced, indicating Saudade had either PM'd the mod or posted "elsewhere" requesting replacement.

It's not unfeasible that Saudade had requested to be replaced in the scum PT and HH reacted to that by switching the vote in hopes the new replacement would be more active and land a more important role. After all, Timid+Inactive on the scum team is suicidal of a sort. The mod came in, did his work in the main thread and sent out the prod before checking on the scum PT to see the replacement request (or went to his inbox and saw the PM from Saudade, but then that wouldn't justify HH knowing he'll get replaced soon, so that's why I can't say it's a damning evidence on them being scum together).

Oh, btw.. while checking on Saudade's posts I came across this:

In post 2250, volxen wrote:
In post 710, Datisi wrote:These are my reads so far, not saying all scum is definitely in there or that they're definitely correct. Besides, I don't think I'd be completely surprised if it came down to be
LJ/Sau team
with some genuine insults.
Very impressive that you made this observation on day one, Datisi! Luckily the one person in this game who knew that
Saudade usually hardbusses his partners as scum
(B&W) wasn't around after our flip to inform all of you about that.
It means nothing at this time, but it could prove beneficial down the road to know the bolded.

This.....this is an interesting post

Vecna · Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:39 am

VOTE: against

Good job A50. If you really managed to do all that as scum, I congratulate you. Its not completely outside of the realm of possibility, but you earned yourself more time in my book. Especially if you keep creating thoughtprovoking comtent like that.

popsofctown · Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:48 am

VOTE: against

Vecna · Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:24 am

IF A50 is indeed town pops, do you think it looks really good on cheeky in particular? Or do you think a scumcheeky would also likely buckle under APressure?

What about the four guys not voting?

Vecna · Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:26 am

I dno, this situation is odd. Either im really wrong about, or A50 is completely wrong on a lot of things.

How do you guys feel about a proposal with the current role assignment but putting icon or HH on the chopping block?

Vecna · Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:34 am

In post 798, Hidden Happiness wrote:
In post 737, Vecna wrote:guys, I hate to say it, but im starting to get town feelings from the titus slot here.
I hate that out of all of the people you said this. Does scum Vecna really town a read around at this point? Maybe for credit if he does nothing to stop the Titus lynch but it makes me second guess my scumread on this slot since Titus is obv town.
In post 739, momo wrote:
In post 737, Vecna wrote:guys, I hate to say it, but im starting to get town feelings from the titus slot here.
i guess

but you have to consider the context this read is coming in

because she claims to have not read the game, she hasn't addressed the valid scumreads on her slot

she's pushing forward trying to act town, but i just don't feel it

completely ignoring the fact that the majority of the game wants you lynched isn't a good look

like i'm known for having an idgaf attitude about wagons as town, but as town in this game, if all the serious proposals had me getting lynched, i'd address the issue
Just because everyone was so hung up on RC doesn't mean we should just dismiss Titus. You don't try to 'act' town what kind of logic is this? Are you getting towny vibes from her and just dismissing it as acting or? This was the same thing with the CheekyTeeky catch up. 'These look town but....' Let me explainsomething: Everything in the game can be towny or scummy period. It's about the actions itself and the player that are important and Titus actions are blatantly obv town. The unawareness of her lynch. The way she's acting. All blatantly town.
In post 747, Almost50 wrote:
In post 745, momo wrote:are you really fine with vecna giving himself miller?
He's town
Hard nope.
In post 757, Oversoul wrote:Are you that heavily townreading Iconeum?
Are you not? Because you should be. If you're not why

Of all the posts from HH, this is the one that stopped me from being mightily suspicious of the slot. The first part seemed like such a towny way of voicing suspicion, but questioning your own read due to new information.

Like, id see this come from scum pretty much only if both creature and HH are scum, and the slot wanted to make it sound good that she was gonna stop bashing their new ally in keeping titus alive.

Maybe some other eyes on this? Since im probably in a biased position on it.

Vecna · Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:37 am

The only problem with not lynching A50 today is that if he -is- scum hes gonna powerhouse himself into endgame and evade the lynch with a few proper nks

popsofctown · Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:52 am

then NKA that

callforjudgement · Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:19 am

Game statusFailed proposals:

Spoiler: momo's proposal

Spoiler: Vecna's proposal

Spoiler: popsofctown's proposal

Spoiler: Lil Uzi Vert's proposal

Spoiler: AP's proposal

Spoiler: Hidden Happiness's proposal

Current proposal (by Iconeum):

1-shot Gladiator
: CheekyTeeky
Inactive
: Creature
Day 5 Innocent Child
: Nero Cain
Inventor
: apthet
Day 3 King
: Jingle
Macho
: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller
: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector
: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour
: popsofctown
Neighbour
: Vecna
Timid
: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup
: pisskop
Vanilla
: Iconeum
Compulsive Quitter
: AP

For

(4): Iconeum, Hidden Happiness, momo, Lil Uzi Vert

Against

(6): Gamma Emerald, AP, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Vecna, popsofctown

Not voting

(4): apthet, pisskop, Creature, Jingle

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(7): Jingle, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, pisskop, Creature

Proposal unavailable

(7): momo, Vecna, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, AP, Hidden Happiness, Iconeum

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Nero Cain is V/LA until Internet connection troubles are fixed.
Iconeum is V/LA this weekend.
Deadline is currently 00:05 UTC on Friday 2 August (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-08-02 00:05:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count

CheekyTeeky

(1): popsofctown

Hidden Happiness

(1): Iconeum

Vecna

(1): Hidden Happiness

momo

(1): pisskop

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.

Creature · Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:26 am

Ugh, I think we don't have much proposals left

popsofctown · Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:39 am

7 is beyond plenty

Ankamius · Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:41 am

You are not a player. Please do not post here — callforjudgement

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:44 am

Jingle · Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:47 am

Ank is in this game?

Jingle · Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:48 am

Also, Vecna seems to have mastered the art of convincing me he's town and then tearing that read down in a single post.

Jingle · Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:51 am

1-shot Gladiator: CheekyTeeky
Inactive: momo
Day 5 Innocent Child: Nero Cain
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Jingle
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: Creature
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour: popsofctown
Neighbour: Vecna
Timid: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup: pisskop
Vanilla: AP
Compulsive Quitter: Iconeum

I am strongly considering hammering the against and proposing this if I don't like Ico's entry to the thread tomorrow, btw.