Role Call I (Game Over)

AP · Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:56 am

In post 2215, Bingle wrote:FWIW, actual AP meta:

ime AP tends to refuge in audacity as scum. Reading him is very much like reading FL, in that you look at what he wants to achieve and not how he goes about achieving it. Grain of salt, the vast majority of our interactions are modding, so it's untested, but that's my 50 cents.

I concede there are similarities to my play with that of FL's. I'm not going into details, but the statement above is vaguely true.

AP · Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:59 am

In post 2222, Vecna wrote:Im still sitting here, not sure if I made a big mistake or not.

Listen. If you're town you have nothing to worry about. I will reassert that I'm the NK on N1/N2, unless scum want to lose this game. You're being skeptical about it. Fine. Just wait and see.

AP · Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:05 am

In post 2223, Vecna wrote:It doesnt feel like A50 wants to convince me of anything.

This is kind of true, and I already told you why. You just shrugged it off. Let me try again:

remember when you approached me about the Nero TR? Remember

WHY

I said I won't explain it to you? It's because you are one of those player that are so hard headed and cannot be easily convinced of something against what you already have decided to be true. It's better to let you reach the conclusions yourself than to consume (and drain) my energy trying to convince you of something you're against.

So, yes. I am not trying to convince of anything right now. Certain reveals will in duo time.

AP · Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:06 am

In post 2223, Vecna wrote:More that he wants to show everyone how bad my reasoning is.

No. that post was directed at YOU, but -unfortunately- it's against the rules for me to try to PM it to you instead.

AP · Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:08 am

In post 2223, Vecna wrote:Shouldnt he be trying to convince people.momo is scum? Direct the lynch to momo or HH, Which were the centrepieces of most of his recent posts?

Mate, they're being given Inactive & Timid. That's good enough, isn't it?

AP · Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:10 am

See? THIS is one of the main differences between my play and yours. I do NOT claim my reads are gospel. They're not. They're my reads and I am well aware they can be wrong and will probably change with a couple of flips.

AP · Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:20 am

In post 2223, Vecna wrote:Instead he attacks me because I dare.use meta in a post.

Wrong again. That post was made BEFORE the Iconeum proposal was finally shot down. It was 4-6 at the time, which does look like going down, but -as you saw- you don't take anything for granted in this game until it officially is. I was @L-1 at one point, so why would I/you assume against @-1 = against hammered?

But that is just me being equally as silly as you are being right now. The fact is I do hate people claiming they have meta knowledge of my play when they really don't. At least one other player in this game has been yelled at before for that specific reason (and I'm NOT talking about Maria. I'm talking about someone else).

If you do insist on using meta arguments, then at least make it an accurate one. Like "he did exactly this in this game which wasn't so long ago".

AP · Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:28 am

In post 2226, Vecna wrote:Can someone, or better yet, a few people, give reasons for why this is a good lynch? Put my mind at ease. let me know why youre behind this lynch (without pointing to something someone else has said).

ISO him. It's mot such a big ISO either. Only apthet has posted less from the original players list

AP · Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:39 am

In post 2242, pisskop wrote:
In post 2203, Bingle wrote:PK can't be town. He's a thief. A hooligan. A marauder!
A cool guy would let me sheep his proposal and let me take the credit . . .

Mate, you've just hard scum claimed!! Nobody calls Jingle a cool guy and gets away with it!

AP · Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:40 am

In post 2244, popsofctown wrote:Fox
Falco
Marth Sheik

Rock me Amadeus

AP · Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:42 am

In post 2245, pisskop wrote:I feel like I have a better grasp on Boons

You spelled it with an N!!

AP · Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:45 am

In post 2246, pisskop wrote:
In post 2244, popsofctown wrote:Fox Falco Marth Sheik
I purposely chose
falco
, gannon, link, and luigi

Not again!

OK. here goes...

Rock me all the time to the top
Er war ein Punker
Und er lebte in der großen Stadt
Es war in Wien, war Vienna
Wo er alles tat
Er hatte Schulden denn er trank
Doch ihn liebten alle Frauen
Und jede rief
Come and rock me Amadeus
Er war Superstar
Er war populär
Er war so exaltiert
Because er hatte Flair
Er war ein Virtuose
Er war ein Rockidol
Und alles rief
Come and rock me Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus
Come and rock me Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus
Ey
Es war um siebzehn hundert achtzig
Und es war in Wien
No plastic money anymore
Die Banken gegen ihn
Woher die Schulden kamen
War wohl jedermann bekannt
Er war ein Mann der Frauen
Frauen liebten seinen Punk
Er war Superstar
Er war populär
Er war so exaltiert
Genau das war sein Flair
Er war ein Virtuose
War ein Rockidol
Und alles ruft
Come and rock me Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus
Come and rock me Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus
Come and rock me Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus

Bingle · Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:06 pm

In post 2226, Vecna wrote:Why werent you so inquisitive when icon got put on the chopping block?

Because he's unwilling to engage, and I'm the one who put him there in the first place?

I specifically laid out what I found objectionable and his answers were complaining about how people were letting AP slide, AtE about how "maybe I can help by being lynched", and assertions without reasons (I strongly believe AP is a better lynch than CT doesn't tell me why AP is a better lynch than CT).

He specifically refused the attempt to engage over it. I've brought up a few times how it seems really strange to me that Ico was perfectly happy to shop out the proposal to LUV, and then when LUV gave him a proposal to make the only change was that he switched the lynch target from one of his suspects to a different one of his suspects, with no reasoning as to why.

Since then the pisskop thing has definitely not helped any.

Bingle · Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:08 pm

In post 2226, Vecna wrote:You seemed to want a lot of insurrance for the A50 lynch

What do you mean by this, btw?

callforjudgement · Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:51 pm

Game statusFailed proposals:

Spoiler: momo's proposal

Spoiler: Vecna's proposal

Spoiler: popsofctown's proposal

Spoiler: Lil Uzi Vert's proposal

Spoiler: AP's proposal

Spoiler: Hidden Happiness's proposal

Spoiler: Iconeum's proposal

Current proposal

(by pisskop):

1-shot Gladiator
: CheekyTeeky
Inactive
: momo
Day 5 Innocent Child
: Nero Cain
Inventor
: apthet
Day 3 King
: Bingle
Macho
: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller
: Creature
Odd-Night Motion Detector
: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour
: popsofctown
Neighbour
: Vecna
Timid
: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup
: pisskop
Vanilla
: AP
Compulsive Quitter
: Iconeum

For

(6): pisskop, popsofctown, Hidden Happiness, AP, Gamma Emerald, Bingle

Against

(1): Iconeum

Not voting

(7): apthet, Creature, momo, Lil Uzi Vert, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Vecna

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(6): Bingle, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, Creature

Proposal unavailable

(8): momo, Vecna, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, AP, Hidden Happiness, Iconeum, pisskop

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Nero Cain is V/LA until Internet connection troubles are fixed.
Iconeum is V/LA this weekend.
Deadline is currently 00:05 UTC on Monday 5 August (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-08-05 00:05:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count

CheekyTeeky

(1): popsofctown

Hidden Happiness

(1): Iconeum

Vecna

(1): Hidden Happiness

momo

(1): pisskop

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.

Gollum · Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:11 pm

At&t didn't come today so I have no clue when my net is getting fixed so I'll just alt post till then if it's ok with the mod.

I'm going to reiterate that giving me if just gets me shot but hopefully I'll have solved b4 then

Has there been anything important besides ap tryharding?

Vecna · Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:42 pm

youre getting the icon lynch you wanted, it seems like.

Also, thanks, ap, I guess?

Vecna · Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:43 pm

alright. Lets see then.

VOTE: for

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:56 pm

VOTE: For

callforjudgement · Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:27 pm

Game statusFailed proposals:

Spoiler: momo's proposal

Spoiler: Vecna's proposal

Spoiler: popsofctown's proposal

Spoiler: Lil Uzi Vert's proposal

Spoiler: AP's proposal

Spoiler: Hidden Happiness's proposal

Spoiler: Iconeum's proposal

Current proposal

(by pisskop):

1-shot Gladiator
: CheekyTeeky
Inactive
: momo
Day 5 Innocent Child
: Nero Cain
Inventor
: apthet
Day 3 King
: Bingle
Macho
: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller
: Creature
Odd-Night Motion Detector
: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour
: popsofctown
Neighbour
: Vecna
Timid
: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup
: pisskop
Vanilla
: AP
Compulsive Quitter
: Iconeum

For

(8): pisskop, popsofctown, Hidden Happiness, AP, Gamma Emerald, Bingle, Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert

Against

(1): Iconeum

Not voting

(5): apthet, Creature, momo, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(6): Bingle, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, Creature

Proposal unavailable

(8): momo, Vecna, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, AP, Hidden Happiness, Iconeum, pisskop

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Nero Cain is V/LA until Internet connection troubles are fixed.
Deadline was 00:05 UTC on Monday 5 August (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-08-05 00:05:00)

).

The proposal has passed!

Each player gains a new role…

Hidden Happiness,

Timid

Iconeum,

Compulsive Quitter

popsofctown,

Neighbour

Bingle,

Day 3 King

apthet,

Inventor

Nero Cain,

Day 5 Innocent Child

momo,

Inactive

Vecna,

Neighbour

CheekyTeeky,

1-shot Gladiator

AP,

Vanilla

Gamma Emerald,

Odd-Night Motion Detector

Lil Uzi Vert,

Macho

pisskop,

Night 1 Universal Backup

Creature,

Miller

Iconeum quits!

Iconeum, Multitasking Town Compulsive Quitter, quit day 1.

Night falls. If you've gained a Night action, then now is the time to use it. The night deadline is 05:30 UTC on Thursday 25 July (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-07-25 05:30:00)

). Note that if you have a Night action and do

not

wish to use it, you should tell me that explicitly, rather than simply not sending a message.

callforjudgement · Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:57 pm

Vecna

was eliminated overnight. He was a

Multitasking Town Neighbour

.

Hidden Happiness

may not propose today.

Here are the roles you get to allocate for Day 2! Each role must be given to one player, and each player must get a role.

Day 2 Role Call

Night 2 Bulletproof
(
Passive
,
Protective
): You are not a valid target for the Mafia's Night 2 elimination (unless you are also Macho).
Captain
(
Day
): Once each Day, you may via PM to the moderator choose a player and a targeted
Night
action (other than a
Factional
action), along with a suggestion for that action's target. During the following Night, if the chosen player has access to the chosen action, they will be told what the suggested target is, and have the choice of using the action on the suggested target or of not using the action at all – they cannot choose to use it on anyone else.
Chronomage
(
Night
,
Protective
): Once each Night, you may choose a player to "time-delay": if that player is eliminated that Night, they will be able to continue posting until the end of the following Day (but not to receive roles from proposals that Day); if that player would receive information from the moderator that Night, that information is delayed until the end of the following Day.
Doublevoter
(
Passive
): When voting on proposals, your vote is counted twice. (This may increase the number of votes required for a proposal to pass.)
Neighbour
(
Passive
): You will gain access to read and post in the Neighbour private topic, and may use it to discuss the game with the other players there.
Day 3 Post Restricted
(
Passive
): On Day 3 only, you may not post if you've already posted 4 times in the previous 24 hours, and may not make posts more than 50 words long. The first violation of this restriction will lead to a warning (and editing of the offending post); further violations will lead to loss of your proposal (if you still have it) or vote (if you don't).
Psychologist
(
Night
): Once each Night, you may investigate a player for unused elimination abilities: at the end of the Night, you will learn whether or not that player has an unused ability to Eliminate someone. (Players who cannot Eliminate someone, and players who can but already have, will give the same result.)
Revisor
(
Day
): Once each day, when a proposal has been open for voting for 3 or more hours, you may by bold-post in the thread modify that proposal by swapping two roles on it. Doing so will reset the vote count, but not refund the author's ability to propose.
Night 3 Compulsive Role Caller
(
Night
): On Night 3, you will be shown a list of all roles available for proposals on Day 4. You
must
choose one of them; this choice will be publicly announced at the start of Day 4, and all proposals must give it to you.
Even-Night Tracker
(
Night
): Once on each even-numbered Night, you may choose a player to track; at the end of the Night, you will learn who (if anyone) that player targeted with a
Night
action.
Treestump
(
Passive
): You count as eliminated for most purposes, but may still post in the game thread and any private threads you have access to.
Compulsive Quitter
(
Twilight
): You immediately leave the game and are eliminated.

Game statusThere have been no proposals yet today.

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(11): momo, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, AP, pisskop, Bingle, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, Creature

Proposal unavailable

(1): Hidden Happiness

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 7 players vote for it.
Nero Cain is V/LA until Internet connection troubles are fixed.
Deadline is currently 06:00 UTC on Friday 2 August (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-08-02 06:00:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

AP · Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:39 pm

First and foremost; BP should go to Bingle (D3 King). Anything else is negotiable.

I would like for Gamma to claim target and result. apthet should probably claim target and ability given too (the benefits overweigh the downside of it).

Anyone has any idea about why Vecna was the NK, aside from him being a global TR and a trying hard to solve the game? In other words; do we think there are mechanical benefits to the kill?

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:40 pm

Well Vecna was obvious town.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:41 pm

In post 1803, Vecna wrote:personally, I think A50 + creature + HH/Nero is gamesolve. Ive been wrong before. If this flips town, I disagree with momo that creature should be the lynch tomorrow, but im probabaly getting too stuck in the picture of these connections that might not exist.

Probably this.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:43 pm

These roles are a lot harder to assign than the previous ones.