Mini 2091: The Purge - Game Over!

[Carl Tuckerson]

If any of you think that you can control my gun target this night ur wrong. I'm not barricading, and i'm most likely shooting Gandalf.

If ya'll wanna strand me go ahead, i'm dying either way tonight

If you're not gonna play ball and shoot Hectic then

Intent on Iconeum.

You can stop this by:
(1) explaining why you no longer scumread Hectic (or at least scumread Hectic more); and
(2) giving me a plausible narrative for the world where neither you nor Hectic is scum.

~

This reminds me, how should we handle mason claims? I don't want to strand a mason but I also think it's probably terrible to have them out to prevent a stranding since that outs someone else for the strongman.
I'd be stunned if Iconeum is a mason so hopefully it never matters, but masons are the only people whose stranding should worry us so I'd like to figure out an answer. Hopefully they're just in the town piles so it won't matter.

[Delta Klim]

It's Day 1. On an ordinary Day 1 we would have time to delay a lynch of a claimed Mason for a day, but this game's mechanics (and it being a blitz game) make that more difficult.

[Carl Tuckerson]

Well, we should always have time to delay it I'd think, even if it meant piling up quick on somebody else

[Iconeum]

If any of you think that you can control my gun target this night ur wrong. I'm not barricading, and i'm most likely shooting Gandalf.

If ya'll wanna strand me go ahead, i'm dying either way tonight

If you're not gonna play ball and shoot Hectic then

Intent on Iconeum.

You can stop this by:
(1) explaining why you no longer scumread Hectic (or at least scumread Hectic more); and
(2) giving me a plausible narrative for the world where neither you nor Hectic is scum.

~

This reminds me, how should we handle mason claims? I don't want to strand a mason but I also think it's probably terrible to have them out to prevent a stranding since that outs someone else for the strongman.
I'd be stunned if Iconeum is a mason so hopefully it never matters, but masons are the only people whose stranding should worry us so I'd like to figure out an answer. Hopefully they're just in the town piles so it won't matter.

Have you read the past couple pages? The 1v1 with Hectic and me ended in, let's call it a draw.
You think you can threaten me with that intent? If you think I'm scum, shoot me. If you think Hectic is scum, shoot him. This game is as easy as that. Stranding isn't even close to the value a lynch gives.

I'm just gonna be salty if I'm stranded

[Carl Tuckerson]

Don't tempt me with salt value, especially after you buck up on me like you aren't worried about getting stranded.

Humor me a bit. I read it, and I didn't clearly see why you changed your mind on Hectic. I see why you moved on Gandalf and I thought your progression made sense, but you reaffirmed your (bad) conclusion that Hectic isn't on his previous town meta, said he was misrepresenting you/the situation regarding who was pushing who at one point, and I don't see why you decided otherwise. That's why I asked you why you changed your mind and why I should believe we're suddenly in a world where you're both town.

I suggest you play along with my questions while you have the chance.

[Iconeum]

Why would I stay on Hectic if

1)it gets me stranded
2)it's not going to get him stranded

Our 1v1 should guarantee our slots will be sorted come morning anyway, there's little point in wasting more time there

[Carl Tuckerson]

That's not what I'm asking. You said this shortly before moving off Hectic:

I'm gonna cry if this is TvT with gandalf the laughing scum

It's plausible to me that you'd think voting for Hectic is counterproductive, but that's not the point.
The point is that your read appears to change, and you appear to believe Hectic is town. Is this correct?
If so, I don't get what changed about Hectic's behavior to make you think this, and I don't get how it is that we had such divergent opinions about his behavior before your recent exchange with Hectic, how you said that you still didn't see the meta point I raised based off his self-reference, but you ended up thinking he was town.

[Formerfish]

VOTE: Unvote

Icons recent posts have been giving me some strong town pings. This is a lot of the same ways I was feeling when I was about to win a recent game and had to die to do it.

I will be around for a bit tonight and tomorrow as well. Over, I feel like you are the only person I can trust myself to work with here, care to tie your dance card up with me?

[Iconeum]

The point is that your read appears to change, and you appear to believe Hectic is town. Is this correct?

My tunnel on him is gone. I still kinda scumread him for it, but i'm much less sure about it. Let's say I can now see a world where he is actually town. Especially with the short deadline I dont see it as productive to keep pushing a single slip, when there isn't general support for it. I literally can't do or say anything more to push him then I already had.
What's worse is that I'm being scumread for my push (which happens to me nearly every game). So yeah I don't see much benefit in keeping that up.

[Delta Klim]

UNVOTE:

That is what I needed to hear.

We have 24 hours remaining. We should make the most of them.

[Gandalf]

VOTE: unvote

[Gandalf]

VOTE: menalque

[Gandalf]

VOTE: menalque

[Menalque]

Does icon dying down mean we’re ready to do egduf?

[Hectic]

Nah, she's town.

I’m on my phone so I’ll get back to you when I’m on laptop in a bit

But basically everything around the “scumslip” by hectic

Still waiting on an update to this^

[Persivul]

Votecount 1.6

Iconeum (2): TiphaineDeath, EspressoPatronum
Egduf (2): Menalque, Iconeum
Hectic (2): Oversoul, Most Serene
Menalque (3): Egduf, Hectic, Gandalf

Not voting (4) - Tet, Carl Tuckerson, Formerfish, Delta Klim

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to strand.

NOTE: I will be away on a previously scheduled camping trip with no internet access starting the afternoon of Thu 8.1 Until sometime on Sun 8.4. My apologies for interference to the game.

(expired on 2019-08-01 05:30:00) remain until day end

[Menalque]

ugh, you people are gonna make me play aren't you

okay, I'm rereading for real based on first ~5 pages this seems like a good place to park up

VOTE: carl

[Oversoul]

Please explain that read Menalque.

[Iconeum]

And how do you think that is a usefull vote, 20 hours from deadline?
With not a single word to back it up or convince others?

[Menalque]

carl and Gandalf aren't scum together

[Menalque]

also, Jesus, calm your tits, I'm just beginning a read through, there'll be words to back it up when I'm at page 30 not page 7

and I have 20 hours to get whatever needs to go through, through

[Oversoul]

Doesn’t due to mod’s vla it is going to be a couple of days before we see the

carnage

results from night 1

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: Hectic

[Tet]

VOTE: Hectic What I get for reading before I hit the road.

@Mod

I'll be V/La for at least the next 36 hours, possibly until the 5th.

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Hectic

Hello?