Mini 2091: The Purge - Game Over!

[Iconeum]

nice write up

[Iconeum]

I regret nothing, please release the scum PT in it's full glory

[RCEnigma]

Achievement Unlocked - Shoot and kill both masons!

[Iconeum]

I'm sad Carl's gambit didn't pay off.

So close

[Menalque]

Persivul, I fully

loved

the flavour here! Thanks for nodding!

Gg all, I think scum would have had this if TD hadn’t shot FF. Despite my teasing, lots of respect to you icon for not conceding, and more now that I know you were informed of what happened re: Gandalf and the PM.

Gandalf — I didn’t think you meant anything by the PM, but I know outside communication is forbidden, which is why I reported it to Persivul straight away and didn’t respond to you.

[Menalque]

This was fun, but I don’t like that it can be auto after 1 night (or more or less auto if there’s more than 1 scum left)

I’d definitely be interested in playing again if there’s a way to get around that design-wise

[Iconeum]

This was fun, but I don’t like that it can be auto after 1 night (or more or less auto if there’s more than 1 scum left)

I’d definitely be interested in playing again if there’s a way to get around that design-wise

You mean 'wow this game went to D2'

[Menalque]

Oh, and my bad on asking for copy pasting from the mason thread. That was because I just finished a game where someone copy pasted (and didn’t use the site quote function) a series of posts from the neighbourhood in game. As there was no reprimand there, I assumed that the way to interpret the rule about quoting private communication only applied to actually using the quote function. I’ll make sure to check with individual mods in the future.

[Iconeum]

Once released, the mafia pt should provide an entertaining read

here's a

small

preview

[Hectic]

gg

Props to Tiphaine for taking that shot on FF, could've been a completely different end otherwise. The breaking strat still should've worked though I guess, since we just pair everyone together and don't put Icon and FF in the same pair, while Gandalf barricades.

[Hectic]

Once released, the mafia pt should provide an entertaining read

here's a

small

preview

Looking forward to reading through that lol, want to see you guys come up with this gambit.

[Menalque]

My god icon, that mafia thread killed me— both in a getting shot sense, but also those memes were hilarious

[Iconeum]

My god icon, that mafia thread killed me— both in a getting shot sense, but also those memes were hilarious

the one where i hit the wall is now broken for me, is it for you?

[Menalque]

You mean #167? Sadly yes

[Iconeum]

So yeah in short, I knew very well what I was getting into when I counterclaimed

[Menalque]

Hahaha, yeah, I realise

I liked the orbital lasers touch

I added the humongous amounts of prejudice for your death

[Iconeum]

I loved how Tet got himself killed as well

Just a few more wild shots away from pulling this off...

[Menalque]

I was wondering if anyone would be so confident in everyone’ else sticking to the plan that they’d just shoot where they wanted, I guess the answer to that is yes haha

[Iconeum]

Well, that's one of the reasons why I didn't concede. You just never know.

And i'm serious when I say don't trust town to do the townie things

[EspressoPatronum]

Great game, all! That was hilariously chaotic.

@Percivul thanks for running it!

[Iconeum]

@percivul

, /pre in me for your next run of this please

What if strongman obtains the ability to barricade when last surviving scum?

[Menalque]

I'll pre-in too pls

I'm not sure that would be enough would it? I mean in that situation you wouldn't counter claim (cause you'd still lose everyone shooting between the two of you) so we'd know the mason claim was real

he'd barricade, we'd all shoot, you'd again have the dilemma of either killing the mason and being shot by the person shooting you, shooting the person shooting you and the mason living, or barricading and losing the 2v1 vote to strand the next day

[Menalque]

also I can't believe the entire mafia team was 1942

[Iconeum]

also I can't believe the entire mafia team was 1942

i thought i was being rolled

[Persivul]

Let's work through the idea of last surviving scum gains 1X passive BP.

If 1 scum and 1 mason and the circle kill idea is used, all that's left is the mason (or the person the scum was supposed to target) and the scum. Scum wins. So, that break is fixed by adding the BP.

If 2 masons, then 2 town plus the scum are alive and scum loses.
Question: is this necessarily a flaw? Point being that town gets down to a single scum with both their masons still alive, don't they deserve to win?

If 2 scum, pairs are used, 1 mason is odd man out and barricades, scum aren't paired together: the scum SM dies, but scum goon is saved by BP. 1 town is left alive. Scum win.

If 2 scum, pairs are used, 2 masons barricade, scum aren't paired together: 2 town and a scum are together, scum lose.

So, no, the addition of BP by itself doesn't solve it.

Maybe the solution is to just remove the masons? The idea was that the masons gave town the chance to coordinate a 2-shot kill and potnetially take out a barricaded scum, but they never seem to get used for that anyway. If they provide a breaking strategy, maybe we just get rid of them.