Project ARCH - Epilogue

[Sakura Hana]

I'm sketched out with the amount of investigative claims already

Me too

But this game's Bastard anything can happen.

[Almost50]

To my knowledge only 2 have claimed investigative. One was RedPanda (Loyal Neighborizer) and the other is PP (unspecified). Did I miss any other "investigative" claims?

[WhemeStar]

UNVOTE:

[WhemeStar]

Honestly should we just lynch someone rc wanted dead

That seems like the best play

[Rainn]

Actually it seems like we've some 80% chance of either Oversoul or Cloud being scum btw.

This is who was on the unwnd's wagon:

Dunnstral 802, Bambi Jay 877, PenguinPower 1278, Fred the Cat 1319, Rautherdir 1620, Almost50 1706, Celestial Coordinates 1816, Sakura Hana 1831, Cloudkicker 1834, unwnd 1841

All of those people have been "cleared" more or less for:

Dunn and Rauth as masons.

Bambi as 3rd party.

Penguim and A50 as..."he's a wasted lynch" (PR soft)

CC died.

Sakura...is pretty towny already imo.

Therefore the unique remaining person that gained serum yesterday and apparently had the power to turn anyone into a miller was....

Cloud?

By the way my scum read on him happened before I realized this.

You obviously dont read the game do you, i have been townreading and pretty much refusing to vote uwnd until he was pretty much the confirmed lynch. My vote had no effect on the lynch choice, it only gave me serum. Guess what, i prefer to have serum than give it to someone else

YOU are the one NOT reading.

In that post I was discussing how it's mechanically blaming that you are possibly the unique person to have had targeted Oversoul (if he isn't lying). That has nothing to do with unwnd and the fact you just jump straight to a no-context defense doesn't look good on you.

[Rainn]

Also tanaka or w/e, you did imply my vote is a bus, do you know how a bus is correctly made poor boi?
Do you have a clue about S vs T interactions?

Primate has not even since even considered that I could be scum leaning on them, do you know why tanaka?

It's not necessarily a bus, you can just be scum and him town, or the reverse.

Pretty interesting though that you're so sure he is scum to the point of saying that this is a "S v T" interaction already. Up until the point I've read, you didn't talk much about primate, but I'll keep reading, I suppose later you say something about him.

[Rainn]

Also, i have never been lynched as town and never will be, i don’t think you understand the extent i can go when i want to, even grudging weaboos like you who want to fos me out of spite ends up admitting they were biased

Uhh..I'm not really biased.

"grudging weaboos"...

that's quite the term.

[Rainn]

I'm trying to find anything to clear Cloud off but I'm not particularly seeing it. All I can see is someone with a very stubborn personality that could easily be scum

[Sakura Hana]

Rainn, im pretty sure from where you've read there's speculation that Simotech since they are the ones that make the serum may have other ways of getting serum.
While hunting in the wagon is good, i dont think going that high on "HE'S THE ONLY POSSIBLE PERSON" is a good idea.

[Rainn]

Huh?

My scum read on him is completely independent of that Sakura. I even said so before.

The rationale about him being the unique person to have serum under no unknown events is just to convince most of you (with a good reason) to join me.

I'm not particularly going for Cloud right now though, I think Primate is worse right now.

[Rainn]

@Cloud what is your epicmafia username and do you have any other accounts on mafiascum aside from this one and Joey_?

[Rainn]

I'll probably prod dodge here until Saturday or Sunday, that it's when I'll have plenty of time to give a final answer on this and do some research.

see you.

[Rainn]

UNVOTE:

Consider me still on Primate but I don't want any lynches happening before Sunday so I'm out of the fun for now

[Zaphkael]

Vote Count 2.14

Cloudkicker-

[0]

MariaR-

[0]

KidAmn-

[0]

Rautherdir-

[3] Primate, PenguinPower, Bambi Jay

PenguinPower -

[1] Pisskop

Rainn -

[0]

Bambi Jay-

[0]

Gamma Emerald -

[0]

Chemist1422 -

[0]

Pisskop -

[1] MariaR

RedPanda -

[0]

WhemeStar -

[1] Gamma Emerald

Oversoul -

[0]

Almost50 -

[1] RedPanda

Primate -

[3] CloudKicker, Almost50, Sakura Hana

Sakura Hana-

[0]

Dunnstral -

[0]

Not Voting -

Rautherdir, Chemist1422, RedPanda, Dunnstral, Oversoul, WhemeStar, Rainn

Mod Notes –

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 to Lynch.

Day 2 Ends In (expired on 2019-08-19 16:42:34).

[RedPanda]

Panda can you add people to your neighborhood after activation?

nope.

[RedPanda]

Subtlety is for a town that hasn't had like half the people claim anything.

I mean I keep saying A50 is a wasted lynch so it's not too subtle which is why it's frustrating.

hmmmm

[RedPanda]

my poe list based on reads (not ordered).

Strong town

Cloudkicker
Pisskop
Oversoul
Sakura
Dunn

Leaning town
Rautherdir
Rainn
Primate

null
Mariar
Kidamn
Penguinpower
Chemist
Whemestar

Leaning scum
Bambi
Gamma
A50

[RedPanda]

Strong town
Pisskop
Oversoul
Sakura
Dunn
Rautherdir

Leaning town
Penguinpower
A50
Whemestar
Rainn


null
Cloudkicker
Mariar
Kidamn
Primate
Chemist
Bambi
Gamma

[RedPanda]

^ that list is based on claims

[RedPanda]

Also guys remember there def is either multiscum or a negative 3rd party role.

[RedPanda]

unvote vote gamma

[KidAmn]

I will consider it a scumclaim & out your crumbs + the fact that you are double ccd and are not leading on them

If you're town why not just... Do this

Like, explain

[KidAmn]

unvote vote gamma

That ain't it chief

[KidAmn]

Also how many fuckin hoods are there gonna be in this game

[Primate]

Yeah, sorry. I didn't pick up on the hints about masons, I would have stopped if I'd seen them. Yeah that's a pretty unarguable claim.

Unvote

I was scum with him fork and he was fairly lurky. This game he's a bit lurky too

but he's more useful

, and if you factor in lurkiness and just assume he's a lurky player it's not particularly objectionable. A scumread would be nice, coming in and saying that you think the two biggest wagons are town is a bit like something a scum would do, but it's only two reads, he could believe it.

Note that Chemist had...really not done anything worth of being called "useful".

Primate just can't give a straight answer to it and this commentary about such a hard lurker slot comes more likely from scum than town.

If I had to guess even more, I would say that it's scum!Primate that knows Chemist is town. But not sure.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

I was comparing him to his behaviour in Fork

. Compared to that game, he's more useful. At the time I made that post, he'd actually done things other than just say "I'll post later", which he didn't in the length of that other game, bar one post (admittedly a very short game timewise, but he was actually commenting on stuff naturally in the first couple of days of this game) . I probably held on to that read too long after that after his behaviour actually dropped off properly and started to look more similar. I think he probably shouldn't be playing mafia if this is normal activity, but if he is, my view is that you need actually try and make a good faith attempt to read what is there instead of just doing lurk=scum if meta doesn't support that. If they hadn't been replaced I was intending to do a read of Chemist and Creature to see if their actual meta held up with what people were claiming for them, but they've both been replaced, thank god.

Primate has not even since even considered that I could be scum leaning on them, do you know why tanaka?

Beside the point, but of course I've considered it. It's just like, you were the main defender for someone I had doubts about the lynch of D1. I expressed possible annoyance at being speedlynched causing a wasted day at the beginning of the day and you stepped back, you've shown a good attempt to analyse the night actions and remove ambiguity. I know I'm not a great player and it's not weird to me that you think I'm scum. I said earlier that I'm fairly easy to read, but that was more just something I said back in the day and I haven't played properly in like 6 years. It's a bit frustrating that you've tunneled me without really stating any reason why in a form that I can try and rebut, but it's not something I consider inherently anti-town. And largely you seem to also have my reads, unless I'm projecting that. I just don't see anything much to find fault with other than your read on me.