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[volxen]

Yeah I intentionally did shit-all in Musicals.

Do you think my eagerness to get spared is at all related to my alignment?

I don't know if your eagerness to get spared is AI for you, that was essentially the point of my post about you. You have motivation to get yourself spared regardless of your alignment. You said that a good reason to spare you is because you believe that you can read Chennisden in the spare PT. If you are town that's a fair point for you to bring up given your history with Chennisden, but I don't think that reasoning for sparing yourself in and of itself is necessarily town-indicative for you. I mean I could push for my own slot to be spared based on the same reasoning: that I have a fair amount of experience with Chennisden, and while I was strongly townreading him on day one, if I were spared and able to interact with him in the spare PT I would be able to get a stronger read on him one way or another. And that likewise Chennisden would be able to get a stronger read on me through our interactions in the spare PT. But I realize that I'm not a consensus townread, which is why I haven't pushed for my own slot to be spared as ability to read Chennisden in the spare PT isn't what should take precedence when deciding who to spare.

You came out at the beginning of day two and pushed for your own slot to be spared based on your ability to read Chennisden in the spare PT (217). You knew that you weren’t a consensus townread, whereas other slots (e.g., Elements) were strongly townread on day one. Why did you prioritize your ability to read Chennisden in the spare PT over sparing a consensus townread?

[volxen]

@Oversoul, Do you have any previous completed games with Chennisden (particularly games where Chennisden was town), or is this game your first time playing with him?

First time playing with him. Why does this matter?

It gives me a baseline to work with with respect to sorting your slot based on how you are reading Chennisden's slot. If you are town then you and I have completely different reads on Chennisden, and I'm trying to make sense of that. I think that Chennisden was transparently towny on day one, and I think that this is something that people who are familiar with him in particular are likely to have picked up on.

[volxen]

I’m going back and forth on that. I think if he is town he played yesterday entirely wrong. It doesn’t quite make sense to me that someone who thinks they are so town and can win the game would advocate leaving on Day 1 where they will have little impact on the rest of the game.

I hammered him because I think less info is oddly actually better for the town in this setup

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How does ending the day early with less information benefit town?

[Oversoul]

Town hunting generally requires a lot less effort or content to do than scumhunting. As evidenced by your super strong read on Chennis very early yesterday

[Oversoul]

Volxen what do you think we should do? Shoot for Pacifist or shoot for Neutral?

[popsofctown]

Votecount 2.2

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)

Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(2) - Elements, DrDolittle
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (0):

:

Voting for a Spare (2):

: Elements, DrDolittle

Not voting at all(6):

Something_Smart, Oversoul, Emperor flippyNips, volxen, Adorable, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist1422

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to make a choice.

Meeting a new character from Undertale each time a player dies..
It fills you with DETERMINATION!

Deadline: Deadline display omitted for now due to VLA

[Dr Easy Bake]

Officially back from V/LA, what should I do Smartie Pantz?

[Oversoul]

Who are you town reading Deb?

[Oversoul]

Hmmm

[Dr Easy Bake]

Who are you town reading Deb?

Right now, who ever Smartie Pantz tells me.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Who are you town reading Deb?

Right now, who ever Smartie Pantz tells me.

Spoiler:

[DrDolittle]

Nips can be town. Let's go pacifist.

[Oversoul]

I have a pretty big revelation once Chemist posts his legacy reads

[Oversoul]

Might not be that big to others but to me it’s big

[DrDolittle]

im full of anticipation (and determination)!

[Dr Easy Bake]

im full of anticipation (and determination)!

Spoiler:

[Chemist1422]

Sorry I haven’t had much WIM over the past two days, I should be able to get around to stuff in about an hour

[volxen]

Volxen what do you think we should do? Shoot for Pacifist or shoot for Neutral?

My stance since the beginning of day one has been that we should follow the Pacifist route to victory if at all possible. It would have been better to have the PR come out on day three so that we could have spared a strong consensus townread today, but I think that we should still follow the Pacifist route to victory as long as there are still strong consensus townreads around.

Also, you didn’t answer my question:

I’m going back and forth on that. I think if he is town he played yesterday entirely wrong. It doesn’t quite make sense to me that someone who thinks they are so town and can win the game would advocate leaving on Day 1 where they will have little impact on the rest of the game.

I hammered him because I think less info is oddly actually better for the town in this setup

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How does ending the day early with less information benefit town?

[Chemist1422]

Sorry I haven’t had much WIM over the past two days, I should be able to get around to stuff in about an hour

I am now (maybe) temporarily ditching the internet to play Ori and the Blind Forest

Another hour or so probably

[Oversoul]

Town hunting generally requires a lot less effort or content to do than scumhunting. As evidenced by your super strong read on Chennis very early yesterday

[volxen]

Then Heal Chennis

I think town list is Volxen, Chennis at the top followed by DDL and Ele

Why did you call me town this early on on day one? At the time I had really only made one post with serious content (175). Chennisden townread me (179 over that one post, but he has history with me whereas you do not. Usually people unfamiliar with me have a hard time reading me, especially during the early stages of the game, as I am rarely “obvious town” on day one. And I had also just put your “secret” scumread (Chennisden) up to L-2 as well (176) – so what was it in particular that made you think that I am town at that stage of the game?

[volxen]

@mod V/LA until Monday, 8/12/19

[Oversoul]

I decline to answer.

[Chemist1422]

Sorry I haven’t had much WIM over the past two days, I should be able to get around to stuff in about an hour

I am now (maybe) temporarily ditching the internet to play Ori and the Blind Forest

Another hour or so probably

So this turned into two hours

Whoops

[Oversoul]

My revelation is that Chemist is able to use his PR from the spare room. Unfortunately, my master plan of trapping scum Chennis means if he is the last scum, he can still kill from the spare room