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[Datisi]

What are peoples reads?

townlean - {icon, klick}
townlean by

ignorance of setup

- {emperor, billy}
null - {everyone else}

Ignorance of setup?

Billy said "I don't know what the Mafia would be talking about." Either he feigned the ignorance of no Mafia daytalk, or he truly didn't know. (As I said, I expected Mafia!Billy to point out that the Mafia has no daytalk.)
Your surprise at the fact seemed genuine enough, so I put you in the same category as well.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Okay thats fair

[Emperor flippyNips]

@datisi— who do you want to vote? Of the people here

[Emperor flippyNips]

@datisi— who do you want to vote? Out of the people here

EBWOP

[Datisi]

Slight preference to vote for Tchill over Luca, but neither are pinging me as scum yet.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Yeah its page 6 so makes sense. I have no real sr’s rn. Just peeps i want to vote

[Emperor flippyNips]

HURT: Tchilly

[Emperor flippyNips]

[Emperor flippyNips]

I hope the two that haven’t shown up yet like to be fashionably late.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Sucks for them if they never make it cos this is gonna be one hell of a party

Spoiler:

[Emperor flippyNips]

Mainly just felt like using that gif.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Game-Specific Info

• 2 week day phases, 2 day night phases.
  
• Majority lynches only.
  
• Mafia daytalk is disabled.

They're not talking about anything.
That's why I asked, I figured mafia!Billy would've said "oh maf ain't talking they have no daytalk"

This is really embarrassing.

[Klick]

The convenient part of being a relatively new player is that people can get reads on you that they might not necessarily get on a seasoned member of the site!

Based on skimming Billy's first game and seeing his personality so far in this game, I don't think his style would be immediately faking a townslip when he draws scum here. Enough about this situation looks genuine that I'm satisfied putting Billy solidly in the town pile.

[Kop]

Apologise, work absorbed all of my time this week. I will read back tomorrow.

[Klick]

VOTE: Kop

[Emperor flippyNips]

OooOooo you’re in trouuubblleeee

Spoiler:

[Luca Blight]

I’m very busy this weekend but will try and catch-up every now and then.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Spoiler:

[Datisi]

Spoiler:

[Tchill13]

You know what is a more solid foundation than random content? Non-random content.
You could easily have a pre-designed list of things to discuss during RVS regardless of your alignment. It's much harder to fake actual content as scum.

Not how the opening of the game works. You just have to let it ride as frustrating as it maybe. Some ppl force this phase to be over quickly and to some players they can interpret scummy behavior from that

[Tchill13]

@tchill -"purposefully ignorant?". Aside from me saying I don't really understand what's going on in RVS, where else was I purposefully ignorant?

@tchill and Luca - I legitimately struggle with how to discuss my experience. Because I do think it's relevant. I also don't want to overplay it, because then I agree it looks like someone is trying to build in a preloaded excuse for bad play. Now that being said, I think inexperience is relevant as a lens to interpret newer players' play. E.g. if a read requires some level of experience to make, then a newer player will probably need that worked out for them or the read/tell isn't going to make any sense. In my first newbie game I had a level of confidence in my read that wasn't appropriate. When I'm looking at newer players, I now understand that what I perceive as the active newbies typical overconfidence is usually a result of the pressure that other players are putting on them to fit in and look town. After my first game where I made numerous comments about how bad I was playing, I had another town player tell me how scummy that looked. So that I cut out. And in this game I only mentioned that this was my fourth game in response to a question about my experience level.

So I legitimately don't know how to approach this. I'm playing more games (in particular games outside the newbie sub-forum) to get more experience, but until I get that experience, I'm gonna be inexperienced. If it felt like I was using that as a crutch in RVS then I guess that's fair. But RVS to me doesn't really give me much. Cases I can analyze. RVS feels sort of performative.

Now I'm not a tonal reader but there's something about your early posts that seem like you don't want to come off highly intelligent about the game.

Luca said he seen it, and I believe him because he also backed his standing while agreeing with me.

[Tchill13]

Not even gonna ask about why there's a town block because there's no reason for one to be there this early.

Due to the approach a handful of ppl have early game my read reasons maybe a little complex.

[Tchill13]

UNVOTE:

I'm happy with a starting townblock of myself/Icon/Billy.

So klick probably isn't scum. That's a courageous move declaring a town block early game when they could just coast.

[Tchill13]

Iconeum slot seems fine. I'm willing to town lean there atm.

Luca is the one I'm willing to work with the most atm.

Billy is still a scum lean.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Billy pilgrim