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Most likely scum, definitely not being spared.In post 551, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@element— what do you think of something smart?
I am curious why you are so willing to send Elements, despite wanting my answer and not getting it? You, along with everyone else, but especially you, seemed to be angry with how fast I had been moving the game, but now you are ok with moving the game fast and barely having any discussion?In post 562, volxen wrote:Intent to hammer Elements
I think that sparing Elements is the right move for today. Elements, do you have anything else that you want to say?
NopeIn post 567, Oversoul wrote:Deb scum claim
I called you town hoping that you would be killed because I had a feeling that you would be hard to read. I still think you are hard to read. I wish you would delve as deep into other players as you are into me. I did that with all of those reads in that quoted post. The speed with which Elements got spared makes me question the legitimacy of his wagon. But we will see! I would very much like to be wrong.In post 533, volxen wrote:@Oversoul... you still haven't answered my question:
In post 490, volxen wrote:In post 395, volxen wrote:Why did you call me town this early on on day one? At the time I had really only made one post with serious content (175). Chennisden townread me (179 over that one post, but he has history with me whereas you do not. Usually people unfamiliar with me have a hard time reading me, especially during the early stages of the game, as I am rarely “obvious town” on day one. And I had also just put your “secret” scumread (Chennisden) up to L-2 as well (176) – so what was it in particular that made you think that I am town at that stage of the game?In post 190, Oversoul wrote:Then Heal Chennis
I think town list is Volxen, Chennis at the top followed by DDL and EleI asked you a legitimate question that would help me (and probably others) to sort your alignment and you refuse to answer. Why? You’ve suggested that you are going to be coming out at the beginning of day three with confident reads (i.e., 431). If you are town then the only reason I can think of with respect to why you wouldn't want to reveal/explain your reads (particularly your townreads) right now is that doing so might help scum to make a more informed decision regarding who they nightkill. But if that is your stance, then why have you been questioning other people on their townreads while being mostly aloof on your own townreads (except for calling Nips townie in 488)? If the concern is that revealing your townreads will give scum more insight into who is "obvious town" and that said information might impact the nightkill decision, then if anything it would make more sense for you to encourage everyone to wait until day three before divulging their townreads, no? Except that isn't what you have been doing. You want everyone else to talk about their townreads, while simultaneously acting as though you can't afford to do so yourself because scum is going to use your readslist to help them decide who to nightkill. And on top of that from the discussions that have already taken place today I think that it's fairly clear who is being widely townread and who isn't, so this whole stance of "you guys talk about your townreads and I will reveal mine on day three" that you are taking doesn't really make any sense at all.In post 397, Oversoul wrote:I decline to answer.
You gave me a very questionable townread at the beginning of day one and I called you out on it. Especially considering that you called out DDL over doing the same thing towards your own slot (341), I expected you to give me a proper response, not dodge the issue.
I mean I had brought up the question three different times and you still hadn’t answered it, so it was clear that you were deliberately choosing not to answer it. Yes, I am still skeptical of your slot for a variety of reasons – the fact that you’ve been pushing Chennisden (my strongest townread) as scum for most of the game, the quickhammer on Chennisden without giving him the chance to share his final thoughts, the PR fakeclaim on day 2 when day 3 would have been the optimal time for the PR to get spared (even with your “big revelation” sparing the PR on day 3 is better than doing so on day 2), and the early day one townread on my slot that you didn’t explain until now. None of that changes the fact that I believe that sparing Elements is the optimal play for today. If we were lynching someone today then I would want more discussion, but I don’t think that’s as necessary if we are sparing Elements.In post 565, Oversoul wrote:I am curious why you are so willing to send Elements, despite wanting my answer and not getting it? You, along with everyone else, but especially you, seemed to be angry with how fast I had been moving the game, but now you are ok with moving the game fast and barely having any discussion?In post 562, volxen wrote:Intent to hammer Elements
I think that sparing Elements is the right move for today. Elements, do you have anything else that you want to say?
People that haven't played with me before often have a difficult time reading me. But if you are town, why would you think that falsely listing me as a townread (when in reality you were unsure about my slot) would make me more likely to be nightkilled? I had only made one serious post on day one, and the fact that I am hard to read/not "obvtown" would have made me a sub-optimal nightkill.In post 569, Oversoul wrote:I called you town hoping that you would be killed because I had a feeling that you would be hard to read. I still think you are hard to read. I wish you would delve as deep into other players as you are into me. I did that with all of those reads in that quoted post. The speed with which Elements got spared makes me question the legitimacy of his wagon. But we will see! I would very much like to be wrong.In post 533, volxen wrote:@Oversoul... you still haven't answered my question:
In post 490, volxen wrote:In post 395, volxen wrote:Why did you call me town this early on on day one? At the time I had really only made one post with serious content (175). Chennisden townread me (179 over that one post, but he has history with me whereas you do not. Usually people unfamiliar with me have a hard time reading me, especially during the early stages of the game, as I am rarely “obvious town” on day one. And I had also just put your “secret” scumread (Chennisden) up to L-2 as well (176) – so what was it in particular that made you think that I am town at that stage of the game?In post 190, Oversoul wrote:Then Heal Chennis
I think town list is Volxen, Chennis at the top followed by DDL and EleI asked you a legitimate question that would help me (and probably others) to sort your alignment and you refuse to answer. Why? You’ve suggested that you are going to be coming out at the beginning of day three with confident reads (i.e., 431). If you are town then the only reason I can think of with respect to why you wouldn't want to reveal/explain your reads (particularly your townreads) right now is that doing so might help scum to make a more informed decision regarding who they nightkill. But if that is your stance, then why have you been questioning other people on their townreads while being mostly aloof on your own townreads (except for calling Nips townie in 488)? If the concern is that revealing your townreads will give scum more insight into who is "obvious town" and that said information might impact the nightkill decision, then if anything it would make more sense for you to encourage everyone to wait until day three before divulging their townreads, no? Except that isn't what you have been doing. You want everyone else to talk about their townreads, while simultaneously acting as though you can't afford to do so yourself because scum is going to use your readslist to help them decide who to nightkill. And on top of that from the discussions that have already taken place today I think that it's fairly clear who is being widely townread and who isn't, so this whole stance of "you guys talk about your townreads and I will reveal mine on day three" that you are taking doesn't really make any sense at all.In post 397, Oversoul wrote:I decline to answer.
You gave me a very questionable townread at the beginning of day one and I called you out on it. Especially considering that you called out DDL over doing the same thing towards your own slot (341), I expected you to give me a proper response, not dodge the issue.