BTE: Boon Wars - Revenge of the Jingle

[Almost50]

And I only voted no-lynch because I did the rough math and decided 11:4 was so scumsided it wasn't even worth playing. Even after hitting two scum our LYLO EV was 13%.

On the other hand I was running out of tricks. I already had bus'd two of my teammates (and I don't even like unnecessary busing).

As for it having been more scumsided if we guessed wring I beg to differ. We guess correct and we kill one, then we have a chance to lynch another and have them kill a 3rd. If we guessed wrong we are killing that one by day but having them kill another so 2 kills per phase rather than 3.

I mean, I understand the emotion, but it's never good to complain about how scum/town sided the game was when you lose. It indirectly sends the message that the opponents didn't deserve their win, and I feel we fully deserved this win because we did the effort (You don't know how many times I ISO'd each slot and did a search on certain vocabulary words or phrases, as well as how people spelt certain words/terms (ex: veng/venge, vengekill vs venge-kill.. etc) to try and figure out who was whom.

[Jingle]

I wish Bins would have done more this game...

Same.

Thank you for acknowledging my carry.

[Almost50]

We were still considering how to get a lynch and not get vengekilled for it

...why? Lynch town, vengekill scum, NK town, scum win.

Yes, but WHOM to push and HOW was still an issue, because if we did something suspicios enough one of us could have been lynched instead. We needed two townies to vote another townie before we quick hammered. The alternative was to be very convincing that no one turns on us.

[Something_Smart]

To be perfectly clear: I will complain about an imbalanced game regardless of whether I won or lost

And to say that a game could have been won by a much weaker team doesn't mean that the team that won was weak. Clearly you did put a lot of effort in and it paid off. "Deserving" is weird and loaded language, but you definitely played well. I'm not trying to take away from that.

But, like, I have a pretty good eye for balance, and this game was horribly off the mark. I'm sorry. It was not enjoyable.

[Boonskiies]

So...


I just went to check the Review PT for this on a different topic (Flavorwise, why each game was which, which doesn't matter all that much) and it turns out we did originally plan this as 12v3, expecting it to be slightly scumsided at those numbers (which was intentional, for all three games). I'm not sure how we rolled 4 scum, but the mistake is as much mine as Boon's. I apologize to the town for the unintentional handicap, but at this point, there's no real answer to 'fix' it.

Edit: I actually kind of know how we made the mistake. The review was half via PM and half via PT and Boon was having major RL shit and myself minor RL shit when the hydra game started. Not a great excuse, but the best I have.

I don’t give blame to Jingle at all, but yeah. He was a super mod.

[Boonskiies]

I’ll release scum thread soon.

However, Bins and A50 killed it this game.

[Dr Easy Bake]

Soooooo who got to be me?

[Krazy]

Oh yeah this game was absolute garbage

How would you know when you didn't play it?

[Krazy]

2- We NEVER guessed wrong at night

It would have been more scumsided if you had, we got twice as many mislynches that way.

And I only voted no-lynch because I did the rough math and decided 11:4 was so scumsided it wasn't even worth playing. Even after hitting two scum our LYLO EV was 13%.

Idk, several people had discussed it being possibly a scenario with 2 scum left. I don't think it's ever correct to no lynch at 5 with the number of scum uncertain.

[Krazy]

A50 played well tbh

[Firebringer]

this game lasted far too long.....

didn't this start back in march?

[Krazy]

Nah june

[davesaz]

I was kinda surprised that Titus posted. Every post but the last one was me afaik. Though I just realized that I didn’t bookmark the hydra thread using the hydra Id so she may have been talking at me there... time to go check.

[Xtoxm]

good work guys
scum was deffo the alignment to roll in this one
maintains my perfect record in boonytoonz series

when i rolled scum again i was like, god how many times are almost chara gonna roll town against me this is ridic
then it turned out they were one of the jingle and i was like oh sweet we're gonna win

[Jingle]

Soooooo who got to be me?

S_S afaicr.

[Titus]

I was kinda surprised that Titus posted. Every post but the last one was me afaik. Though I just realized that I didn’t bookmark the hydra thread using the hydra Id so she may have been talking at me there... time to go check.

No. I had real life issues. I posted the gist in my gtkas thread. I had Ki scum by VCA but didn't expect nl votes.

[davesaz]

The quick nl surprised me.