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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:16 pm

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In post 1448, Klick wrote:Why don't you have a result Icon?
because the player i investigated is dead
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:16 pm

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In post 1447, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1445, Tchill13 wrote:and why are you so eager to 1v1? first ali for her LUCA sr... now me? Aggressive much?
trying to sort you

You have a scumread on Datisi and me, do you think we are scum together?
I've changed my mind about Datisi. I actually lean town there.

You provided good answers in your rebuttle though. I do believe most of the player base kills ali n1. Especially if you and luca are town. It eliminates a good player AND incriminates you or luca.

I think you "argued" with ali for the right reasons in the moment. Just because she flipped town doesn't change that.

I basically just wanted to see what you'd say.

you being on all the wagons worried me but I do feel better about you.
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:19 pm

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In post 1451, Tchill13 wrote:you being on all the wagons worried me but I do feel better about you.
I actually think that was a very good point to pressure me on.

I'm having trouble with my scumreads atm so if I come about being agressive that's because i'm trying to find scum
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:22 pm

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Luca a decent chunk of the stuff at the end of your post about me seems to be about my scumreads being weak/unconvincing at the end of D1; but if you read the sentence right below my reads list:
In post 1112, Klick wrote:Klick
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Top is town to the point that I'm not interested in lynching anytime soon. Bottom is what's left.
The four people at the bottom weren't scumreads in any sense other than PoE.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:22 pm

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VOTE: Iconeum
Really not buying that.
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:23 pm

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I propose a massclaim. If enough people agree to one, I'm fine to start.
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:24 pm

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In post 1454, Klick wrote:VOTE: Iconeum
Really not buying that.
what exactly?
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:25 pm

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In post 1455, Klick wrote:I propose a massclaim. If enough people agree to one, I'm fine to start.
what do you hope to gain from a massclaim?
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:26 pm

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Well i feel good about luca town but time will tell and i'll explain when he's done. either way I'll be confident with that slot soon.

Datisi i messed up on. I didn't correctly assess the wagon growths which is why i thought she was scum. Rereading and seeing how she handled pressure overall made me feel better about her... And when a strong town player does flip I DO take their reads into consideration. Ali dismantled her wagon and while i couldn't find substantial reasons for ali believing datisi was town thats still worth noting.

A50 and Lil Uzi didn't give much contnet, neither had a vote laid down at the time of lynch. THIS is why I was so annoyed at lynch. These 2 really were never forced to take a stance.

Klick is scummy AF. 40 posts d1, little to no content that meant anything, Luca highlighted that he took a very nuetral stance when wagons were switching up and has now outed you while soft claiming himself.

Klick is a great place to start looking for scum.
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:27 pm

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In post 1455, Klick wrote:I propose a massclaim. If enough people agree to one, I'm fine to start.
on d2? Datisis has already claimed VT. 2 other VT's have died. 7 ppl left 1 is VT. 6 players that we dont know about. if we have 2 scum then thats 4 slots scum dont know about and you want to eliminate that advantage for town on a day where if we mislynch we go to MYLO?
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:28 pm

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Your responses read like you thought I was a Tracker or a Watcher or something similar and limped into an Alisae investigation as a result.

PEdit: Icon claimed Cop in the middle of D1 - I didn't 'out' him.
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:29 pm

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In post 1459, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1455, Klick wrote:I propose a massclaim. If enough people agree to one, I'm fine to start.
on d2? Datisis has already claimed VT. 2 other VT's have died. 7 ppl left 1 is VT. 6 players that we dont know about. if we have 2 scum then thats 4 slots scum dont know about and you want to eliminate that advantage for town on a day where if we mislynch we go to MYLO?
This reads like you know Datisi is town?
With a claimed Cop I think a massclaim is completely reasonable.
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:31 pm

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In post 1454, Klick wrote:VOTE: Iconeum
Really not buying that.
Icon earlier with me you did assume that most of the player base would kill Ali.

Why risk that when we had several low content slots to sort? LUV and A50, hell even klick.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:32 pm

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In post 1460, Klick wrote:Your responses read like you thought I was a Tracker or a Watcher or something similar and limped into an Alisae investigation as a result.

PEdit: Icon claimed Cop in the middle of D1 - I didn't 'out' him.
then why isn't icon dead?

Can you point me to that claim please?
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:33 pm

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I feel that datisi is town, I do not know that.
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:34 pm

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In post 1081, Iconeum wrote:fine i'm gone for the weekend anyway

hardclaim cop

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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:35 pm

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And yes, 'why isn't Icon dead' is a very valid question.
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:36 pm

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VOTE: icon

I do not consent to masscclaim.

I do want to know why icon targeted ali over 3 slots with low content when he even stated ali would more than likely die n1 if she were town.
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:37 pm

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In post 1462, Tchill13 wrote:Icon earlier with me you did assume that most of the player base would kill Ali.Why risk that when we had several low content slots to sort? LUV and A50, hell even klick.
In hindsight it's a bad call on my part

With Ali pushing strong against Luca and me, and me having claimed cop, I thought there was a decent chance Ali would be alive.
The benefit would be to have confirmation of what is the loudest and most interesting slot in this game.

Imagine a D2 where both Datisi and Ali are alive?
There's also something of an ease of mind that I could come into D2 and just know what's up with Ali.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:38 pm

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and do not lynch icon for a while please. Even if he's obviously the lynch i do have stuff id like to ask/say.
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:38 pm

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In post 1466, Klick wrote:And yes, 'why isn't Icon dead' is a very valid question.
I do not have an answer to this, but I consider it fully possible they chose an agressive strong town player over a player who claimed cop way too early and that there is a decent chance that was a fake claim. Not to mention the possibility of a protective being on a claimed cop.
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:39 pm

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In post 1469, Tchill13 wrote:and do not lynch icon for a while please. Even if he's obviously the lynch i do have stuff id like to ask/say.
there's no way i'm the obvious lynch here
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:41 pm

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how is asking for a massclaim at this point anything less then seeing if it's opportune and possible to kill the claimed cop?
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:42 pm

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In post 1468, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1462, Tchill13 wrote:Icon earlier with me you did assume that most of the player base would kill Ali.Why risk that when we had several low content slots to sort? LUV and A50, hell even klick.
In hindsight it's a bad call on my part

With Ali pushing strong against Luca and me, and me having claimed cop, I thought there was a decent chance Ali would be alive.
The benefit would be to have confirmation of what is the loudest and most interesting slot in this game.

Imagine a D2 where both Datisi and Ali are alive?
There's also something of an ease of mind that I could come into D2 and just know what's up with Ali.
damn it dude why did you even claim cop d1? for shits and giggles?

You realize you have to die today because of the fact that your invest died (Extremely convenient) you've already admitted that your invest had the highest likelihood of dying if she were town.

YOU DIDNT DIE (Extremely convenient)

and mainly because you claimed d1 and didnt even BOTHER to crumb your n1 target, or you would have already pointed that out.
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:43 pm

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Protective being on you isn't a big risk. All it does is change LyLo into MyLo, which is arguably better for scum.

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