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[Hopkirk]

Hectic your idea of putting serious thoughts in a different colour didn’t work out well for me. I literally can’t read the important part of what I just posted.

Just looking through the roll list and sorting people into 1 of three categories this is what I come up with

Town - Cliff, Rick, Hectic, Eevee, Gamma, Hop, carca, profii
Null - Kop, Billy, Fish, garmr, dave, bob, skellen, youare
Scum - Sharon, JJD, roster, Tchill

Idk why Tchill is in the scum bit there. Should be in the town. Probably because I don't like your name

Umm is this strictly based on names?

I don't think that's a scumslip. I'm assumed green PM to mean a town PM, I don't think the colour of the PM is important, and I think Carca was just assuming green=town for the way she used it.

Basically, I think the use of 'green' wasn't in a literal sense of the role PM being

green

.

Yeah, I know what she meant, but she said green. I noticed right off the bat that my town pm was white. And that was unique, because usually they're green. So if I was gonna say I thought someone was town, I'd have said that and wouldn't have said they got a green pm, because I know that in this game they didn't get a green pm, even though usually it would have been green. The whole point of a slip is that it's a mistake that shows allignment. I think that in this game not knowing that the town pm was white is a slip.

I definitely didn't take in the color of the role pm.
Don't think this qualifies as a slipscum since if we've got uncolored role pms then there's no chance the scum got red in their role pms (getting uncoloured too) so they'd also have noticed right? Think the townslip part holds merit though.

pffft elements I might be starting to agree with you on the jjd thing for a different reason

Stay focused. A reputable Judge like myself would NEVER break the LAW. I ENFORCE the law. I AM THE LAW.

I'm agreeing with whomever said JJD is hiding behind his gimmick to not play the game

Are you saying you don't think Judge has any content and you're disliking them based on that? I don't agree with that and it seems like there's other players you should be but aren't going after in that scenario.

-Hop

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

@Judge: do you count extra judicial streaming as ‘breaking the law’?

What does Mega City municipal code say about them?

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

stop being cute, it's gonna make me feel bad for lynching you!

You're not gonna lynch me. You will let scum shoot me at night (as is the plan).

[Garmr]

stop being cute, it's gonna make me feel bad for lynching you!

You're not gonna lynch me. You will let scum shoot me at night (as is the plan).

I am for this plan. I'm a good lawful boy and will let Judge shield me.

[Billy Pilgrim]

I noticed right off the bat that my town pm was white.

You use mafBlack for skin, right? So everything is white characters on a black background?

Yes. Except in my PM, there is usually a different color for my alignment. This time it was all white text.

[profii]

Surely not knowing what a green pm is would be a scumslip? I don't think it's either, but I don't get why it would be a townslip (please explain)?

If we are going to make a point about this then.... if anything.... Billy made a scum slip tbh

Where was my scumslip?

Will explain day 2

[Rick Dalton]

To be fair, there is a sample pm

[Hopkirk]

On a quick review turns out Judge doesn't actually have as much content as I thought I remembered and is hiding behind his gimmick.

And so is davesaz

profii & Dalton are town leans pending further evaluation

why is daveaz town? i haven't seen alignment tells from him yet

I'm good at reading his tone. And if you are going to wait for alignment tells from davesaz you would probably have to wait for 3-4 gamedays to get a read on him.

Thought Judge had more reads. Turns out I just disliked all of the ones he posted.

@Tchill: what do you think about JJD putting a very early 'tone' townread on 3/4 of the people you mentioned are strong town players then committing to it further?

That being said Town shouldn't really want a neutral survivor in the game

Why? I'll be honest:

If I knew for a fact

he was a Survivour I would be all for giving him a joint win with the town. My problem is I don't believe his claim, and I just can't tell if it's town or scum motivated. Right now I'm leaning town, but I guess I am not sold on it just yet.

As for my vote, whatever RVS vote I place I don't need to switch until I have a reason to; i.e. when i;m ready to vote someone scummy for the lynch, or -at the very least- if there's a growing wagon on the person I'm voting that I need to decide if I really want to lynch them or not.

Right now the game is young and most of us are half serious/half fooling around, so I won't bother unvoting my town lean just yet.

Have you taken the obvious and immediate step that would quickly resolve your problem with Hectic? I feel like that'd be the town thing for you to do here.

-Kirk

[profii]

I'm assuming that means scum/neutral. If it doesn't then you along with a lot of other people really need to start explaining your acronyms. I get irritating elitist undertones from people doing that.

I had no idea what it meant but I look at this problem slightly differently

If someone wants me to follow their point of view and lynch someone, explain it to me in a way I understand or I will just scroll on by

Ah, another opinion. Town should be inquisitive about the meaning fwiw.

I guess I categorised it as "ah something only half the player list will know if I was meant to know I would"

But if it was a test then fine

[Billy Pilgrim]

To be fair, there is a sample pm

Not the first game that i'd have played where people didn't read the introductory posts.

[profii]

I’m in a neighborhood with Tchill and Aristophanes.

That's a hood I'd wanna be in, is the chatter flowing?

[Hopkirk]

@Gamma - I agree that I'm probably having trouble working my way into this game. It's ALOT larger than I'm used to, and it's insanely active. I think games been up for 36 hours and we're on page 22 already. So I'll be along.

Pedit: I'm not playing devil's advocate. My pm jumped out at me this time, because I'm used to them being green or red. Not sure why that wasn't noticeable for others, but it seems like everyone's letting this slide, and your play felt like you were sorting. That felt like the first scummy thing I could see, so now I'm left with nothing.

UNVOTE: Carcalilly

Wait why didn't you vote me here. Carcalilly using 'green pm' to mean town makes sense, but I clearly didn't realize there wasn't colour in the pm- as you mentioned earlier.

-Hop

[profii]

To be fair, there is a sample pm

Not the first game that i'd have played where people didn't read the introductory posts.

Guilty

I was inferring you didn't realise town PM were actually plain

Which begs the question - why did hectic opt to make his role blue when he claimed survivor miller

[profii]

Also FYI

JJD has town slipped

[Hopkirk]

Does this remain intact with strength? Have anyone else in that pool?

You, dave & profii. Oh, and "Hopk", but I still have a minor "irk" to it.

Did your read on Rick change or did you just miss it out from the list here?

People voting judge look like people that want to stay busy by voting an active player that's not been talked about as far as widely town read goes.

Why are ppl voting judge? I haven't seen anything from them scummy.

Do people really not think skellen or YOUAREGREAT are scummy?

I think Skellen is scummy.

-Hop

[Elements]

Also FYI

JJD has town slipped

Explain

[Hopkirk]

To be fair, there is a sample pm

Not the first game that i'd have played where people didn't read the introductory posts.

I've never read the sample VT town role pm on the first page as town.

[profii]

Also FYI

JJD has town slipped

Explain

After the game but in my mind hes town now for sure

[Hopkirk]

Scum who noticed role pms weren't the normal colour would absolutely check the sample pm. Probably more likely they'd notice it with X of them and a PT.

@Prof: Can you explain your reason not to explain the townslip now?

-Kirk

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m in a neighborhood with Tchill and

Aristophanes

.

Remind me never to tell you about more of my alts.

What

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't know if that's gonna get the coding right, (I'm doing this from my phone) but the town pm was white. I know that it's normally green, so I think Carca slipped scum based on a guess from experience. I think YAG was confused by the green pm phrase because she's new and she didn't get a green pm this time around. Hop, why'd you ask how it was a slip?

VOTE: Carcalilly

This is stupid.
There was a townie in an older game that said he'd flip blue (color used for PR flips sometimes) when the PR that was killed N1 was a green flip.

[Gamma Emerald]

JJD because I didn't like his entrance

I forgot the lubricant! SORRY! My bad.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

[Gamma Emerald]

pffft elements I might be starting to agree with you on the jjd thing for a different reason

Stay focused. A reputable Judge like myself would NEVER break the LAW. I ENFORCE the law. I AM THE LAW.

I'm agreeing with whomever said JJD is hiding behind his gimmick to not play the game

That's juicy enough to sheep
VOTE: Judge Joseph

I think JJD is town rn actually

[Rick Dalton]

I don’t scum read JJd yet, so that means he’s probably town

[Gamma Emerald]

Don't tell me... are you hiding behind your gimmick to not play the game?

I am

playing the bloody game. You're just not seeing it because you have your bloody shades on. However, there are many experts in this game who would tell you that I -at least- am playing (as in sorting) as we speak. They may not all be able to tell my alignment yet (except those who rolled scum, of course) and may not even know what exactly I'm doing, but they know I'm playing the game of Mafia as we speak.

Pro tip: I'm one of the experts