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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:24 am

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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:26 am

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Fair, who do you feel strongest about as town and as scum? Give as much reasoning as you see fit.
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:28 am

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In post 1071, the worst wrote:Actually just had another scroll through her ISO and fuckit
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:34 am

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In post 1112, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1110, Katsuki wrote:Sure. First I'll be hit with a more restrictive post restriction, and if that escalates, it may lead to Alisae's death.
What is your post restriction? You didnt answer the first question.
It's not real (maybe), it's a thing Katsuki does to, like, lower expectations early
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:37 am

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In post 1127, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1071, the worst wrote:Actually just had another scroll through her ISO and fuckit
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I mean, this actually makes a lot of sense XD
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:39 am

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Ank is scum, that's my vanity wagon.

LLD is scum, but not the sort I want to immediately lynch. Maybe I should have that stance for LLD, but I don't. LLD is a powerscummer and if we do actually have town LLD she can identify powerscumming and spotlight control takes-one-to-know-one style which can be a big deal in a large. Her own ability to manipulate the gamestate is going to mitigated to whatever extent she's distrusted, going the other way.
She's scum just because xofelf as the day1 post1 play is bad circumstantially. Like it might be genuine town LLD who happened upon this strong read and it's just unlucky, but it seems too aligned with scum!LLD's natural incentives going into the large.
Ari is scum. He's posted too much without giving me something resonant. That's admittedly pretty weak for 3rd place on page 46 of a 25p. I just like all you guys.
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:42 am

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In post 1129, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1127, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1071, the worst wrote:Actually just had another scroll through her ISO and fuckit
VOTE: jjh
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I mean, this actually makes a lot of sense XD
What is the connection between jjh and LLD
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:44 am

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In post 1130, popsofctown wrote:LLD is scum, but not the sort I want to immediately lynch.
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Fine with this guy dying too fyi.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:45 am

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In post 1130, popsofctown wrote:Ank is scum, that's my vanity wagon.

LLD is scum, but not the sort I want to immediately lynch. Maybe I should have that stance for LLD, but I don't. LLD is a powerscummer and if we do actually have town LLD she can identify powerscumming and spotlight control takes-one-to-know-one style which can be a big deal in a large. Her own ability to manipulate the gamestate is going to mitigated to whatever extent she's distrusted, going the other way.
She's scum just because xofelf as the day1 post1 play is bad circumstantially. Like it might be genuine town LLD who happened upon this strong read and it's just unlucky, but it seems too aligned with scum!LLD's natural incentives going into the large.
Ari is scum. He's posted too much without giving me something resonant. That's admittedly pretty weak for 3rd place on page 46 of a 25p. I just like all you guys.
I think youre wrong on Ank but i dont want to go into why yet.

I can see where you are coming from with LLD. The opening post wall case on Xof followed by the vote and then pressuring Ali to say why she was defending Xof pinged me all sorts of wrong. There are other things that have be wishy washy on this slot, and i dont have much experience with her, so i dont know how to take her 100% yet.

Ari could be scum.

Why no town reads from you, only scum?
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:45 am

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Firebringer is town. I believe in slips.

Gamma Emerald is town. His thought on MariaR was really resonant. I think maybe he did something else good that I forgot.

My notes PT says Dannflor is town but I'm still not sure if me and my notes PT believe it. He seems willing to go after some small victories which is what accelerating a day1 into a positive gamestate is all about. Other people are trying to figure out fruit in its entirety or make sure they have voted and are on a wagon and are proud of that wagon, best exemplified by PP's scummy posting of the not-voting portion of the votecount, which is a little too survivalistic.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:45 am

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In post 1099, Aristophanes wrote:Hey GreyICE!!

What makes you say this? Like, I trust your LLD reads, but I like to know the reasoming behind :)
Eh, she's scum. It's hard to explain, she just is. There's nothing wrong, it's more like everything is just slightly fake.
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:47 am

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Was breaking it up into 2 posts gotta make sure both Alisae and Pine ban me from the next game.

I think maybe I can find a way to get banned by Jingle too? But that's really hard.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:49 am

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ringfinger sheeping GreyICE onto an LLD wagon seems like the least informative lynch I'd have ever seen, I will double down on the slot being scummy and still not ideal compared to an equally scummy (or even slightly less scummy) slot
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:55 am

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In post 1134, popsofctown wrote:Firebringer is town. I believe in slips.

Gamma Emerald is town. His thought on MariaR was really resonant. I think maybe he did something else good that I forgot.

My notes PT says Dannflor is town but I'm still not sure if me and my notes PT believe it. He seems willing to go after some small victories which is what accelerating a day1 into a positive gamestate is all about. Other people are trying to figure out fruit in its entirety or make sure they have voted and are on a wagon and are proud of that wagon, best exemplified by PP's scummy posting of the not-voting portion of the votecount, which is a little too survivalistic.
I agree with you on FB, i think he is being more of a chaos factor, but not in the way that I think is bad yet.

Gamma i have as null right now, I dont think hes done all that much, and some of the things he has done I have down as negs but its nothing huge. I usually read him wrong, so im holding off.

I disagree a bit on dan. I didnt like the vote and reasoning in when he voted for JJH. Not saying he is scum, just that I havent seen enough to make him town. I do see a bit of a difference between him and PP, but i kinda think PP is scum anyways so that skews my view.
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:56 am

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In post 1137, popsofctown wrote:ringfinger sheeping GreyICE onto an LLD wagon seems like the least informative lynch I'd have ever seen, I will double down on the slot being scummy and still not ideal compared to an equally scummy (or even slightly less scummy) slot
Dead scum is plenty informative. It informs me I'm closer to winning.
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:57 am

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I'm finding pops' scumread on me to be actually bizarre now
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:16 am

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In post 1090, Formerfish wrote:Be weary. The fact that he hasnt said a fucking word to me yet is as much of a scum claim as anyone has made so far. Ducky, you cant dodge me. I can smell your fear.
There's like a dozen ppl on this list I have very strong synergy with lovely I'm sorry, I don't have the time to engage with all of ya yet

what are you looking for from me in an engagement? specifically.
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:16 am

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In post 1139, GreyICE wrote:
In post 1137, popsofctown wrote:ringfinger sheeping GreyICE onto an LLD wagon seems like the least informative lynch I'd have ever seen, I will double down on the slot being scummy and still not ideal compared to an equally scummy (or even slightly less scummy) slot
Dead scum is plenty informative. It informs me I'm closer to winning.
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:17 am

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Hey thx for confirming me town Pine
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:21 am

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In post 1132, GreyICE wrote:
In post 1130, popsofctown wrote:LLD is scum, but not the sort I want to immediately lynch.
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Fine with this guy dying too fyi.
Think I agree SMH did I talk myself into circles onto an untimely scum motivated wagon again?

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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:25 am

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In post 1141, the worst wrote:
In post 1090, Formerfish wrote:Be weary. The fact that he hasnt said a fucking word to me yet is as much of a scum claim as anyone has made so far. Ducky, you cant dodge me. I can smell your fear.
There's like a dozen ppl on this list I have very strong synergy with lovely I'm sorry, I don't have the time to engage with all of ya yet

what are you looking for from me in an engagement? specifically.
Pretend you are a server taking care of tables. Your section is banging and you have a bunch of tables and they are all happy, but they need things. Then you see that the host sat you another table. At this point you would do a flyby of the new table and just say hello and let them know you would be right back with them.

The only engagement that I was looking for from you was a hello and an acknowledgement that I was in the game with you. You failed to meet the minimum expectation of what you would do as town with me in a game since we dont get a chance to play often in games together. Instead i get snubbed, and then made to feel like im looking to far into it.

Worsty, we had a game together recently where you were scum and I was town correct?
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:27 am

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I feel like we did and you kinda did the same thing you are doing here where you are keeping me at arms length and kinda gaslighting me when I see things that in the context of us seems off.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:38 am

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I don't think so no, sorry

don't have any issues engaging with friends as scum in larges (starcraft mafia, undertale mafia jump to mind), might not bother in a micro if I don't have to but if I'm deepscumming a large theme then I'm stuck with y'all for the long haul so buddying up asap is +ev - you're describing me playing against my scum m.o.

again not keeping you at arms length, there's a lot of people in this game I'm lacking engagement with but atm my time is a limited commodity. the most I have in my notes on you is "haven't seen posts yet, iso and interact later" :c
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:40 am

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In post 1147, the worst wrote:I don't think so no, sorry

don't have any issues engaging with friends as scum in larges (starcraft mafia, undertale mafia jump to mind), might not bother in a micro if I don't have to but if I'm deepscumming a large theme then I'm stuck with y'all for the long haul so buddying up asap is +ev - you're describing me playing against my scum m.o.

again not keeping you at arms length, there's a lot of people in this game I'm lacking engagement with but atm my time is a limited commodity. the most I have in my notes on you is "haven't seen posts yet, iso and interact later" :c
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

Here i replace into a game and you go out of your way to say hello to me and say you read some of my games and have been looking forward to playing with me. We were both town in that game.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10531154

This game started after the Newbie where you went out of your way to greet me, and you were scum in it who got lynched day 1.
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:48 am

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players on this list I have (I THINK I HOPE) good rapport with and didn't greet this game include but aren't limited to Gamma Ank Mastina Ari Skyg Chickadee you Dannflor Ico Krazy PP etc. etc. (latter two I haven't spoken to at all yet)

also v/la and don't have a lot of time to socialize so I've been focusing on scumhunting

I have no idea why this conversation is happening and think you are trying to shade me via a very strange expectation of how social I should be with my very limited mafia time rather than earnestly engaging with my content. if you're town I need you to fix that my friend.
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