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[Tchill13]

So gobble claims n3 BG at the beginning of mass claim "he thoeone hadn't happened yet" and he's scum.

I'm an even night tracker and I'm scum for claiming it late?

Dude. The n3 BG may not even get to be used in a game like this.

The loyal mailman and myself are the only 2 PR's guaranteed to be used.

[Tchill13]

thats nice

...he says through gritted teeth.

All that work Tchill put into selling Scum!Klick to me, only for him to get an inno

I will say Luca this is the most I've ever tried to work with someone in spite of them scum reading me. It's been a challenge. I don't understand. You've been determined to scum read me time and time again. Of course you don't think that's the case but it's obvious to anyone watching or playing the game.

I'm not trying to "setup" scum klick. The info is there. I got wrong that he was the first to point out the Ali crumb. Wooptie doo. He still shaded klick hard until he couldn't do so. He shaded a50 hard until A50 literally gave up.

He didn't post his "message" until me, gobble and you had posted. LUV is the only one who hasn't posted. If that's the team it makes sense.

[Tchill13]

You're already trying to come up with a way to continue to scum read me despite my night action before you even know my results. You're a peace of work. This is SOOOOO ridiculous. This game should have ended on page 60. No reason for it to go this long. One of the worst games I've ever been apart of.

And if I'm scum for the timing of my claim, which was specifically to draw the night kill away from icon, then whatever. Par for the course with you Luca.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Lil uzi Vert

I'm done with this game. Had a mind to open the day phase naked voting uzi.

[Tchill13]

Leave it there and if we're both still alive it'll be a 1v1. If I'm wrong Woo-hoo I'm the town jackass.

I did track LUV to icon.

[Tchill13]

Luca said himself 3 PR's don't make sense. Which means 4 PR's don't make sense. So here we go.

[Klick]

I think as a Tracker I'd have probably tracked Icon last night to add validity to his result. I could see Town-Tracker!Tchill targeting LUV here though.

[Tchill13]

Thought about that, but I intended to track your luv. I made the "klick is conf scum" post so LUV would do the nk.

Apparently it worked.

[Klick]

So you're still working under the assumption that the team is LUV and myself?

[Tchill13]

Teams most likely:

LUV/Klick
LUV/A50
LUV/luca

In that order.

[gobbledygook]

Dang you guys posted a lot in the middle of the night. Are you both European?

Klick confscum with that claim though

[Klick]

I'm in England.

Elaborate? Not quite sure how you can get that interpretation from what's happened.

[gobbledygook]

You are fakeclaiming that you received the mail in order to justify not getting killed.

[Tchill13]

I'm ET American but I've noticed this group only posts late so I stayed up.

[Klick]

You are fakeclaiming that you received the mail in order to justify not getting killed.

Because...

I'm missing the bombshell.
I got mail from Icon. I'm a bit miffed because there were plenty of ways he could have made this airtight but all I got was a phrase to say that doesn't prove anything. But by no means does it make me confscum.

[Tchill13]

Well icon stated he doesn't crumb.

[Klick]

I'm VT.

Either we're in straight mountainous or Icon is town.

See, wasn't that fun?

absolout constant shade on icon even wanting to direct the night action

up until the point the mass claim forced klick to hard TR icon

just like everyone else had to.

b4 this the shade was CONSTANT. still looking for that special post.

You're missing the part where I wanted the massclaim in the first place. Literally no one else wanted it until days after I proposed/argued for it. That doesn't fit with your head-canon of scum!Klick.

Yes I'm a VT lol.

[...]

this is the post. Klick is the FIRST person to point out ALI's protective crumb.

No I'm not? It was brought up by someone else, and that's the only reason I saw the crumb in the first place. I'll go find it.

Tchill, these two things were major selling points in you pushing me with LUV today. You haven't really addressed them. But you seem sold on the theory despite its legs crippling.

Like, you came in guns blazing on these points, and you're just going to ignore their refutation?

[Klick]

Icon, don't bother mentioning it here, but there are plenty of ways you could get someone to prove they got a message from you without it being fakeable by scum.

i know

i already said what you needed to know about claiming and in what order

This exchange is why I'm annoyed I didn't get something better than what I got.

[gobbledygook]

I actually am going to need to go VLA for this weekend unfortunately due to work. I will try to address toDay's posts when periodically over the weekend.

V/LA until Tuesday

[Tchill13]

You're scum BECAUSE YOU WANTED THE MASS CLAIM. you find out if there's a protective that way. You kill icon if there isn't. The only thing mass claim changed for you is that you stopped pushing icon because you had to since he was the only PR that claimed.

You not being the first to notice Ali crumb does put a dent in some things.

You still shade icon until you can't possibly do so. You still tr luv the entire game while pushing A50 for about half the game.

[Klick]

So I push for a massclaim to fish out a protective so I can kill Icon... instead of just lynching Icon?
Are you saying the massclaim wasn't beneficial for town? Because it definitely was.
You're also saying that I did all this to find out how to kill Icon, but you were saying all of yesterday that scum didn't need to worry about killing Icon.

I pushed A50 via PoE for about five seconds, and then got a bad feeling about it.

[Klick]

I really wish this Day had started much closer to the 48-hour night deadline. I was around and checking all of yesterday, and I had just gone to bed when Day started. I came in here and posted this morning about five minutes after waking up.

[Tchill13]

So I push for a massclaim to fish out a protective so I can kill Icon... instead of just lynching Icon?
Are you saying the massclaim wasn't beneficial for town? Because it definitely was.
You're also saying that I did all this to find out how to kill Icon, but you were saying all of yesterday that scum didn't need to worry about killing Icon.

I pushed A50 via PoE for about five seconds, and then got a bad feeling about it.

You weren't gonna get icon lynched at that point. Mass claim no matter how beneficial for town is more beneficial to scum every time.

I as scum would not have killed icon. Too much wifom there. Not everyone plays town or scum as I do though.

You pushed A50 hard, regardless of how "quick" you want to make it seem. You never pushed LUV similarly to pushing A50.

Then LUV is you're 2nd strongest tr the behind A50 for a majority of the last half of the game. Of course you take no actions to back this up (such as votes) but you do make sure it's voiced that A50 is your hardest tr.

A50 gets points imo for fighting against the claim. Then telling us to lynch him after he claimed vt.

[Tchill13]

I really wish this Day had started much closer to the 48-hour night deadline. I was around and checking all of yesterday, and I had just gone to bed when Day started. I came in here and posted this morning about five minutes after waking up.

I was very happy no one was posting in between my cases. I prefer to make walls of posts on things like that.

Anyway, who's the scum team and why?

It's funny to me that you refused to partake in the one of tchill/luca has to be scum hypothetical on D2.

Now I'm assuming you're about to push a team with one of us in it.

[Klick]

And is it worth outing a possible (maybe only) protective for that?

Who do you go after if not Icon, Klick?

Yes? Outing potential protective roles really isn't that negative-EV a play. Especially with how uncertain it is that Icon gets killed even if he's town. And the fact that you've already claimed VT means scum already has a decent amount of info about where roles are if you're town.

As I've said before, I think scum is likely to be between Icon/Luca/A50. If Icon's out of the question, I'd start looking at the other two.

Almost50: That's me. I only have my role PM to argue with (and it's not available to any of you, so I perfectly understand). If I was a bypasser I'd wonder what this slot has done to be TR'd, but I also have the advantage of knowing me and knowing I'm not this passive as scum.. like EVER.

The very first game I checked to confirm this was evidence to the contrary...

VOTE: Almost50

Icon, there was zero good reason to fakeclaim originally (or to claim at all D1 really). Learn from this.

In hindsight considering Icon's town, Luca's reaction to Icon's early play today is solid. I don't think he resists the Icon momentum in that way as scum.

Is it A50/Datisi then?

UNVOTE:

This is everything I posted that you could remotely consider pushing A50.
You can't honestly say I pushed A50 hard, by any stretch of the imagination.