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[Judge Joseph Dredd]

VC please

I have been slacking here and I need vcs. I keep thinking D1 is about to end.

You probably just have to add the code and use Mathblade's VC creator

[davesaz]

Is that still alive? At one point Mathblade was going to drop it.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Garmr]

Just re-read tchill. Aside from pushing the inactive slot of Skellen and YouAreGreat, there's really nothing there. Identifies who he thinks are strong town players but just to say he won't want to Lynch them early. There's not alot in this iso
He also seems to be getting away with being pretty inactive. I don't have much this game, but this seems to be a good place for a wagon.

VOTE: Tchill

I'll jump on tchill if the wagon =s elements since it's my preferred wagon I'm just bored of today.

[Titus]

Is that still alive? At one point Mathblade was going to drop it.

I can ask him. He is my brother but let me check with the mod.

Can I ask my brother about this?

[Gamma Emerald]

Elements claimed SK but make of that what you will. I don't believe the claim personally.

I forgot about this.

Honestly, it could be mafia claiming SK to try to be “leashed”.

I hate that idea of leashing SK’s. Just kill them.

Saying things like that got me caught as scum in the past you know

Though I agree with the logic

I have a town game, on Rick Dalton even, where I pushed through and got a SK lynch because I hate leashing them.

I always look for the SK claim if necessary as mafia, so i think it’s worthless to leash them. They don’t win with town, they have no reason to be leashed.

What experience informs this?

No leashes. You guys aren't bitches. I don't need another dog.

Lol

[Gamma Emerald]

dave kinda flip flopped stances on carcalilly

where

Elements should probably be the lynch today.

I think he’s Mafia claiming SK amongst crumbing other roles to help him out of the situation.

I’m even getting sour on his wagon, and I think that was by design, like elements and company needed to convince me to move off of him.

I think that’s why the Gamma vs Rick started in the first place, maybe not started, but it heated up and scum probably added fuel to the fire if Gamma is town.

I have seen Elements on the table for a while and he has kinda been in my blind spot because I've just wanted him to be town for ego reasons but he hasn't actually felt like town
But just for breadth or whatever: can someone give a one sentence case on Elements?

[Cliff Booth]

no just vote him

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Elements
Fuck it we got no time

[Elements]

I'm a watcher

[Elements]

Spoiler:

Ah, OK, that makes sense, but I think my serious vote on roster is also good, right?

From where I'm standing the logic is flawless. Just remember it's a early vote so people night take it seriously. Other then self-voting - a ridiculous thing to do in almost any scenario - the first vote made by someone is almost never a talking point.

Anyway, I had another look at my role PM and apparently I'm a "Survivor Miller", not a "Miller Survivor". Not sure if the order of the words matter but thought I better bring it up anyway

In the case of your role, I don't think the order matters it's just convention to put modifiers before the role name eg loved watcher rather than watcher that is loved

Doesn't large balance do with either prs or more scum?
I'm not talking about lousy things like godfather or rolecop though.

Are we talking about setup now?
I was thinking something like 4 mafs - 2 or 3 power roles maybe rolecop and roleblocker maybe an x shot strongman, an SK or other anti-town third party, 3 -5 town power roles based on strength - 1 or 2 investigative roles (watcher and tracker would be a fun combo) maybe a protective role like doc or bg, possibly 2 or 3 masons. With 3 though, I'd expect one to be mafia for funness.
So maybe something like:
1/2 invest, 1 protective, 1/2 utility - Town
1 invest, 1/2 utility - Mafia
Third party - maybe bulletproof of some description

These are my 2 "crumb" posts. It's the reason I picked watcher as an example for everything.

[Titus]

Mod, there's two days until deadline. We need a VC urgently. Also can I talk to Mathblade about his VC counter offsite? He rarely checks MS atm.

[Carcalilly]

does anyone have a cc :/

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VC 1.6

Elements - (6):

Cliff Booth, Titus, Rick Dalton, Sharon Tate, Garmr, Gamma Emerald

Cliff Booth (4):

Elements, Carcalilly, Hectic, tchill13

Billy Pilgrim - (2):

YouAreGreat, Kop

Hectic - (2):

Judge Joseph Dredd, profii

Tchill13 - (2):

Billy Pilgrim, Hopkirk

davesaz - (1):

EeveeLution Army

Judge Joesph Dredd (1):

roosterfoster

Kop (1):

bob3141

Rick Dalton (1):

AaronFrost

Not Voting:

davesaz

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-09-20 07:28:35)

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Kop, Sharon Tate, and YOUAREGREAT have been prodded

[Lil Uzi Vert]

roosterfoster is being replaced

[Hopkirk]

7 people prodded/due to be prodded/being replaced/VLA = 14 around (1-2 others prod dodging)
11 required to lynch
2 days to deadline.

I'm not liking the looks of this.

That is what I was expecting Elements would claim when I unvoted.

Can we start a wagon?

[AaronFrost]

Yeah seems like at this point our options are Elements or No Lynch. I know which option I'm choosing.

VOTE: Elements

[AaronFrost]

I'd probably be okay with a Tchill wagon too, but there just isn't enough time for that to happen.

[AaronFrost]

Spoiler:

Ah, OK, that makes sense, but I think my serious vote on roster is also good, right?

From where I'm standing the logic is flawless. Just remember it's a early vote so people night take it seriously. Other then self-voting - a ridiculous thing to do in almost any scenario - the first vote made by someone is almost never a talking point.

Anyway, I had another look at my role PM and apparently I'm a "Survivor Miller", not a "Miller Survivor". Not sure if the order of the words matter but thought I better bring it up anyway

In the case of your role, I don't think the order matters it's just convention to put modifiers before the role name eg loved watcher rather than watcher that is loved

Doesn't large balance do with either prs or more scum?
I'm not talking about lousy things like godfather or rolecop though.

Are we talking about setup now?
I was thinking something like 4 mafs - 2 or 3 power roles maybe rolecop and roleblocker maybe an x shot strongman, an SK or other anti-town third party, 3 -5 town power roles based on strength - 1 or 2 investigative roles (watcher and tracker would be a fun combo) maybe a protective role like doc or bg, possibly 2 or 3 masons. With 3 though, I'd expect one to be mafia for funness.
So maybe something like:
1/2 invest, 1 protective, 1/2 utility - Town
1 invest, 1/2 utility - Mafia
Third party - maybe bulletproof of some description

These are my 2 "crumb" posts. It's the reason I picked watcher as an example for everything.

That's not really a crumb tbh

[Titus]

I want elements or Cliff atm.

A last second flash is near certain to hit town. Scum will lurk it out.

[Hopkirk]

@LUV: will there be a deadline freeze or extension while you're looking for a replacement for Rooster? He was due to be replaced a week ago (given not posting for the last 10 days)

[Kop]

I want elements or Cliff atm.

A last second flash is near certain to hit town. Scum will lurk it out.

Can you put your case out to why you would vote for both of them?

Is your elements vote based on what is usually used by scum, but IMO that's not exactly a concrete reason because 'usually' isn't exactly a motivation to scum read someone. But you've never built on that or necessarily interacted with him, and seem to be going on what everyone else has been given him and making your own mind up.

I do get what your saying about a last second flash wagon is likely to hit town or possibly out another PR. I would rather not go for the watcher, and if Cliff is anything other than a PR, I'd likely like to go for the VT.

[Billy Pilgrim]

I'd probably be okay with a Tchill wagon too, but there just isn't enough time for that to happen.

We have almost 48 hours and with roster due for a replacement we may get more time.

If we build it (the wagon) others may come. I'd rather be here than on Elly at the moment. When he said he crumbed his role, I re-read his iso and expected him to claim watcher.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Mod, there's two days until deadline. We need a VC urgently. Also can I talk to Mathblade about his VC counter offsite? He rarely checks MS atm.

Sure. I’m cool with it.

@LUV: will there be a deadline freeze or extension while you're looking for a replacement for Rooster? He was due to be replaced a week ago (given not posting for the last 10 days)

There will most likely be a 3 or 4 day extension if a lynch isn’t achieved.