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[Tchill13]

Note: IF there's a Vig, please shoot the Aaron slot (EVEN if they replace out. Don't let that slick move fool you).

Also if there a STRONG Investigative (i.e. Something like a Cop or a Gunsmith, not a Tracker or a Motion Detector); please do "consider" investigating Titus. I'm not telling you what to do. Just please take that option into consideration. Thank you.

P-edit: U would have accepted a vote on almost anyone, but not the claimed Watcher!!

whos the claimed watcher and who were you suggesting be a PL? whats who i was gonna vote.

[bob3141]

Very much a gamble


VOTE: elements

Gain why do you want to lynch a possible watcher

[Elements]

I'll join the Tchill wagon.
VOTE: Tchill

[Elements]

Note: IF there's a Vig, please shoot the Aaron slot (EVEN if they replace out. Don't let that slick move fool you).

Also if there a STRONG Investigative (i.e. Something like a Cop or a Gunsmith, not a Tracker or a Motion Detector); please do "consider" investigating Titus. I'm not telling you what to do. Just please take that option into consideration. Thank you.

P-edit: U would have accepted a vote on almost anyone, but not the claimed Watcher!!

whos the claimed watcher and who were you suggesting be a PL? whats who i was gonna vote.

Im the watcher

[profii]

Where do I vote and why - cliff or tchill?

[Billy Pilgrim]

Fuck it I'm jumping back on tchill if we get a extension.

VOTE: Tchill

You too, Garmr. I really don't care about individual reads at this point. We can all get back to this on D2. The thing is Aaron scum claimed because there is absolutely NO TOWN MOTIVE behind voting a claimed PR on D1 (not even a direct CC in a game this size). "not really a crumb" isn't even feasible either. What's a crumb to Mr Aaron? From my PoV it's a valid crumb and it proves Elements had "Watcher" in his mind all day at the very least. If he's faking he will be caught in his own lie in D2/D3 at max. He has already locked himself to produce results. If he is for real then scum will take care of him anyway, so either way we do NOT lynch a claimed PR on D1.

On the other hand, we still don't push more people to claim (or even fake claim). What IF you push C and they claim another TPR? Then another?? We might as well mass claim right now and get it over with.

So, in sum.. a scum claim is a scum claim, and EVEN if by some Godly miracle Aaron's play came from Town then it's worthy of a PL, and the best time for a PL to happen is DAY BLOODY ONE.

Thank you.

I liked this post. But is the vote to tchill because he was the second to do it? And he didn't reference the crumbs or the claim the way that Aaron did so are we sure he had seen it? I guess I'm a little confused why you switched so quickly.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: cliff

i didnt know elements had claimed. i looked at the VC and voted.

weird that so many are voting a claim d1.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Note: IF there's a Vig, please shoot the Aaron slot (EVEN if they replace out. Don't let that slick move fool you).

Also if there a STRONG Investigative (i.e. Something like a Cop or a Gunsmith, not a Tracker or a Motion Detector); please do "consider" investigating Titus. I'm not telling you what to do. Just please take that option into consideration. Thank you.

P-edit: U would have accepted a vote on almost anyone, but not the claimed Watcher!!

whos the claimed watcher and who were you suggesting be a PL? whats who i was gonna vote.

Are you telling me you're not even reading??? Elements claimed Watcher and references 2 crumbs already. COME ON!

And the PL was on Aaron who tried to refute the Watcher crumbs, voted Elements and disappeared.. AGAIN!

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Where do I vote and why - cliff or tchill?

Both are fine and valid votes on my book

[Tchill13]

VOTE: aaron

why would I be reading? i bet 80 percent of the content is useless.

prob should lynch aaron though.

[Tchill13]

and why are you giving up on aaron so quickly?

[Billy Pilgrim]

Why did like 3 people vote the claimed pr post claim? I mean I re-read his iso before the claim, and his watcher crumbs jumped out at me. Like he said, they weren't subtle. If he claimed any other role it was gonna look forced to the point that I expected a watcher claim before he did it.

So why did Aaron, tchill, and Profii all hop on afterwards? Tchill is trying to play it off like he didn't know, but he had already told us a few calendar days ago that he was gonna quit his D1 be and play. But then he went almost 3 days w/o a post and didn't even do the brief check before he voted a claimed pr, and I'm pretty sure it was either on that page or the page before.

I'd like to hear from the other two why they thought that was a good vote post claim.

[Tchill13]

i meant i'll quit my d1 play... on d2 lol. apparently i didnt make that obvious.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

I liked this post. But is the vote to tchill because he was the second to do it? And he didn't reference the crumbs or the claim the way that Aaron did so are we sure he had seen it? I guess I'm a little confused why you switched so quickly.

Just ask yourself "why would tchill be so quick to vote NOW when he wasn't on Elements a few minutes ago"? Are we like a few minutes away from deadline?? Is there a compelling case that Elements is in fact fake claiming? Even if Tchill didn't see the claim, why did he vote NOW rather than 2 hours later when he had "skimmed" the new posts???

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

VOTE: aaron

why would I be reading? i bet 80 percent of the content is useless.

prob should lynch aaron though.

I was the ONLY one at him, and then YOU also voted the claimed Watcher, so YOU literally killed my "defense" of you!!!

OK.. let's try again:

VOTE: Aaron

[Tchill13]

yeah sorry about that.

i call on aaron votes.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

I would appreciate the support of the Cliff/Tchill wagons switching to Aaron at this point. I would also call for Gamma to come Join us, and one of dave/profii can seal the deal too. Thank you

[Elements]

This is a better wagon
VOTE: aaron

[Kop]

VOTE: Aaron

I can't disagree with any of the votes on him, I don't think it's a good idea voting a non counter claimed PR claim. Yes he may be fake claiming, but I believe in giving him a chance to try prove his claim, rather than lynching him without that chance.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Aaron's post was objectively scummier, yes. But tchill came in and hopped on 3 different wagons in 15 minutes and one was on a claimed pr. That doesn't give me good vibes. And he sheeped judge fast on getting to that wagon after he came in looking for the leading wagon. I think tchill is a better wagon at the moment. I'm townreading Judge, but I don't agree with what looks like testing the waters.

I'm also probably a little forgiving of some bizarre play with Aaron because I mislynched him in 3way LYLO this month.

[Tchill13]

if he is fake claiming.... and says he's fake claiming later as town, while letting aaron get lynched rn... then its insta lynch for elements imo. just so we're clear.

hey bily, i want d1 to be over. im voting the top wagon 9/10 times. the 1 being the top wagon claimed a PR.

[davesaz]

I'm having to skim while doing conference calls. Things blew up since I went to bed last night and I want to go through that again.

[Rick Dalton]

Lol

[Titus]

Yeah I'm just not interested in a flash wagon on someone who disbelieved "crumbs" looking at his join date. This looks hella opportunistic.

VOTE: Cliff

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Lol

What exactly is lol'able in this situation, oh wise one?