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[gobbledygook]

I take breadcrumbing as hinting at your role in such a way in such a way that a) isn't immediately obvious and b) can potentially reveal useful information to the town after the player dies.

Elements didn't really do either of those things. And not only was his crumb not very good, he outright stated that he crumbed his role, which kind of goes against the point of crumbing in the first place.

@Tchill:

I know I should probably ignore it but anyone who knows me irl knows that I don't take comments like that well, especially if they're not constructive. If I made a bad play then fine I understand that, but the tone with which it was said rubbed me the wrong way.

That’s not really what crumbing is

[AaronFrost]

Trust me, I know I'm far from the best player here, I'm relatively new here and to forum mafia in general.

Normally I'm a pretty chill person (pun slightly intended), but sometimes I lose my cool at even the tiniest things because of stress (college is a bitch lmao).

Anyways I'm over it now. It's all good. No hard feelings Dredd.

[Elements]

That's his gimmick d1. Dude hates d1. Plays wrecklessy because he doesn't care about it. I used to be that guy. I'm still kinda sorta that guy. Especially after d1 gets past PG 20.

I've been scumread day one every game I've played, except the one I was scum.

I'd try to fix that. This is a you problem and in no way should be seen as you being good at scum lol.

I'm not saying I'm good at scum. I'm saying I'm always scum read day 1 as town.

[Tchill13]

OK. Let's see what the judge has to say about lynching "the bad players" now.

[EeveeLution Army]

I asked you what your definition of a crumb is. Like, if I said "Beware the PGO", you don't think that's a PGO crumb from me?

please dont mention pgos. i have ptsd from the number of times ive hit a pgo lmao

[EeveeLution Army]

im not really sure what to think of the watcher claim. its a weird fakeclaim for scum since watcher always felt better for a scum than a town. and cop/tracker would be better roles to claim here right? its easier to excuse not dying since a doctor can save them easier while i dont think a host would let a watcher doctor combo happen without super strong scum prs. all together i think we should let him be today. but if theres a vig feel free to shoot him.

[Carcalilly]

Carcalilly, when did you start scum reading me and why?

as soon as you claimed. It looks fake as fuck.

I'm not 100% sure which is why I still want to lynch cliff

[Rick Dalton]

If elements is Red PR, it probably means JJD is scum protecting him

[Elements]

Carcalilly, when did you start scum reading me and why?

as soon as you claimed. It looks fake as fuck.

I'm not 100% sure which is why I still want to lynch cliff

What about it seems fake??

[Carcalilly]

skellen had two (2) posts and if you can tell she was scum off of that alone then hats off to you, you're a mafia God, but I don't believe that's the case here.

I am voting Aaron because of AARON'S ACTIONS. I was only correcting you as it seemed you thought he replaced roster.

That's seems to be only a significant development within the past day. You've mentioned only once before, very blandly next to a bunch of other low-actives. Mind giving me actual reasons?

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

And watcher?.... Who gives a fuck about a watcher? Lol. I doubt it's true. Lynch it with fire. He's just gonna say he's town and that he fake claimed D2 or 3.

Because it is easier to choose who is likely to be targeted by scum at Night than it is to determine who performs the scum kill,

Watcher is considerably more powerful than Tracker

. In addition, because having the name of a scum to lynch is better than having someone confirmed Town due to being targeted by the Mafia kill,

Watcher is more powerful than Doctor

.

That's an excerpt from the wiki. Also, Tracker can track someone to a night kill, but can't guarantee they were the only one to visit the victim. Unless "Ninja", the Watcher can tell us whether the victim was targeted by only one person, thus can get a hard guilty on their own.

Thank you.

[Carcalilly]

Carcalilly, when did you start scum reading me and why?

as soon as you claimed. It looks fake as fuck.

I'm not 100% sure which is why I still want to lynch cliff

What about it seems fake??

Actually, question. You're just a watcher? No role modifiers?

Primarily your "crumbs" were settled in two posts where a bazillion other roles were also mentioned, and setup spec. I'm pretty sure even scum could set down a better crumb system than that if they committed to something in the begining.

[EeveeLution Army]

If elements is Red PR, it probably means JJD is scum protecting him

im unsure if this applies but, scum have so much time to craft a fakeclaim. i think the things carcalilly are pointing out might be sloppy town. but im not sure how well he can fakeclaim on the fly

[Rick Dalton]

If elements is Red PR, it probably means JJD is scum protecting him

im unsure if this applies but, scum have so much time to craft a fakeclaim. i think the things carcalilly are pointing out might be sloppy town. but im not sure how well he can fakeclaim on the fly

Exactly. Scum have so much time.

But Elements got caught out prior to that time coming so he had to look for and make due with his start of the setup.

We got him before he had the time

[EeveeLution Army]

And watcher?.... Who gives a fuck about a watcher? Lol. I doubt it's true. Lynch it with fire. He's just gonna say he's town and that he fake claimed D2 or 3.

Because it is easier to choose who is likely to be targeted by scum at Night than it is to determine who performs the scum kill,

Watcher is considerably more powerful than Tracker

. In addition, because having the name of a scum to lynch is better than having someone confirmed Town due to being targeted by the Mafia kill,

Watcher is more powerful than Doctor

.

That's an excerpt from the wiki. Also, Tracker can track someone to a night kill, but can't guarantee they were the only one to visit the victim. Unless "Ninja", the Watcher can tell us whether the victim was targeted by only one person, thus can get a hard guilty on their own.

Thank you.

actually watcher can only psuedoclear someone. since the ninja thing also applies to watcher.

[Carcalilly]

I'm going on a theory that Elements and Cliff have opposite alignments.

[EeveeLution Army]

If elements is Red PR, it probably means JJD is scum protecting him

im unsure if this applies but, scum have so much time to craft a fakeclaim. i think the things carcalilly are pointing out might be sloppy town. but im not sure how well he can fakeclaim on the fly

Exactly. Scum have so much time.

But Elements got caught out prior to that time coming so he had to look for and make due with his start of the setup.

We got him before he had the time

youre saying a week isnt enough time? i can probably think of 5 okayish fakeclaims in around an hour if im not being too rushed

[EeveeLution Army]

normally i think of a fakeclaim the second i get my role. then adjust it as necessary as more roles are shown

[Carcalilly]

And with a little bit of knowledge from my own role, "watcher" is just so plain, easy to be thought of on the top of your head, and overtly valuable/powerful enough to deter a lynch. In retrospect its the perfect fakeclaim for a self-save, and JUST that.

I'd imagine that you'd have a little bit of personal "who should I watch" leaking from your posts, intentional or not, but none. Nada.

[EeveeLution Army]

to be honest CFKD is my favourite gambit

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

If elements is Red PR, it probably means JJD is scum protecting him

Actually, I'm scum WKing him. Let him be and come at me, big boy!

[Rick Dalton]

If elements is Red PR, it probably means JJD is scum protecting him

im unsure if this applies but, scum have so much time to craft a fakeclaim. i think the things carcalilly are pointing out might be sloppy town. but im not sure how well he can fakeclaim on the fly

Exactly. Scum have so much time.

But Elements got caught out prior to that time coming so he had to look for and make due with his start of the setup.

We got him before he had the time

youre saying a week isnt enough time? i can probably think of 5 okayish fakeclaims in around an hour if im not being too rushed

Sure, but I’m the crumb king, and you don’t overcrumb as scum, you sit into the skid.

And if you’re arguing there was plenty of time, then you should be arguing that he is scum, and was able to, rather than straight up believe the claim.

He also claimed to be SK.

You know what I claimed when I was SK?

Serial Killer. Because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

[bob3141]

VOTE: Elements

Going with Ricky on this one.

And you back voting for a claimed PR. Do you think the risk him actualy being a watcher is worth it. When your just sheeping other players

[Rick Dalton]

Also, why are people assuming that Watcher = town without questioning the possibility of scum Watcher?

[Carcalilly]

My plan is lynch cliff -> lynch elements if cliff flips green -> lunch tchill