Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Katsuki]

Well that day ended quite awkwardly. I honestly have no idea why DGB would suicide like that as town. It's quite depressing to have mislynched DGB for the first time in my life.

Anyone who thinks LLD/GI D1 was scum v scum need to reevaluate their social skills.

In no world does GI ever torture his own wife as scumbuddies.

I think xof was scum.

VOTE: SS

[Alisae]

It's.
The same day
and there are 30 pages.
Are you fucking srs?

huge fight broke out and now we have to play by what fire wants because otherwise he’ll just use the governor fruit that Pine is offering to him and govern anything that isn’t what he wants

[Alisae]

Well that day ended quite awkwardly. I honestly have no idea why DGB would suicide like that as town. It's quite depressing to have mislynched DGB for the first time in my life.

Anyone who thinks LLD/GI D1 was scum v scum need to reevaluate their social skills.

In no world does GI ever torture his own wife as scumbuddies.

I think xof was scum.

VOTE: SS

no point vote mastina it’ll just get governed

[Jingle]

Vote Count 3.3

Flavor

With 19 alive it is 10 to Lynch or No Lynch!

Firebringer (3): Firebringer, chennisden, mastina,
Something_Smart (3): Menalque, Aristophanes, Katsuki,
mastina (2): popsofctown, Formerfish,
Katsuki (1): Something_Smart,
Formerfish (1): Titus,
the worst (0):
Aristophanes (0):
Menalque (0):
Titus (0):
popsofctown (0):
MariaR (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
chennisden (0):
Krazy (0):
PenguinPower (0):
GreyICE (0):
Iconeum (0):
Pink Ball (0):
Dannflor (0):

Not Voting (9): Gamma Emerald, PenguinPower, Iconeum, Pink Ball, GreyICE, MariaR, the worst, Krazy, Dannflor,


Alisae endorses: mastina

Deadline: Day 3 will end after 10 days, on October 1st. This is in (expired on 2019-10-01 20:38:00).

Pine is offering a Governor fruit. Firebringer is bargaining for it.
Pine is offering a Neighborizer Fruit. Gamma Emerald and Titus are bargaining for it.
Gamme Emerald is V/LA. While his head is as strong as an Emerald, it is still inadvisable to use it as his primary means of attack.

[MariaR]

It's.
The same day
and there are 30 pages.
Are you fucking srs?

huge fight broke out and now we have to play by what fire wants because otherwise he’ll just use the governor fruit that Pine is offering to him and govern anything that isn’t what he wants

And people wonder why I policy lynch fire.

[Alisae]

It's.
The same day
and there are 30 pages.
Are you fucking srs?

huge fight broke out and now we have to play by what fire wants because otherwise he’ll just use the governor fruit that Pine is offering to him and govern anything that isn’t what he wants

And people wonder why I policy lynch fire.

he can also self-govern

[the worst]

mastina (2): popsofctown, Formerfish,

oops
VOTE: mastina

[MariaR]

It's.
The same day
and there are 30 pages.
Are you fucking srs?

huge fight broke out and now we have to play by what fire wants because otherwise he’ll just use the governor fruit that Pine is offering to him and govern anything that isn’t what he wants

And people wonder why I policy lynch fire.

he can also self-govern

Give me the cliff notes of what I should be doing at the moment then.

[Alisae]

It's.
The same day
and there are 30 pages.
Are you fucking srs?

huge fight broke out and now we have to play by what fire wants because otherwise he’ll just use the governor fruit that Pine is offering to him and govern anything that isn’t what he wants

And people wonder why I policy lynch fire.

he can also self-govern

Give me the cliff notes of what I should be doing at the moment then.

voting mastina

[Katsuki]

oh firebringer wants to throw the game cool

Why he's allowed to play in mafia games I'll never understand.

Vote: Mastina

[mastina]

Your meta on me is fucking outdated.
I changed.

why and how did said change happen?

Like I fucking know? It just did. I changed. My meta isn't fucking stagnant. My playstyle evolves. This was an evolution. (Evolve, devolve...sidevolve, whatever. ) I don't even know when it changed and I don't even know why it did. That doesn't change the fact that it fucking did and I can prove it did. I wouldn't be able to track down the first game where it did nor even if I could would that game tell you why it did. It is one of those things that frankly I didn't even notice or even think about having changed, it's something that just happened, and I didn't notice it until you pointed it out. Because the change was that small, that natural, to make. The change was something I did without actively thinking "oh yeah I'm going to change that", the change is something which changed on its own without me having really noticed I had changed.

These are the threads which I've posted in within the last year.
MBoS4, Undertale, Completely Normal, Krazy's Anime UPick, Any Non Dead Person, Timeshift 4, Restless Spirits, MBoS 5, Vengeful Ghosts, Pokemon Fusion UPick, and I Don't Remember The Name of this Game.

Try skimming my iso in those games (the only one which is a hydra is Undertale and which posts are mine is something that is covered in-game so if you can't tell initially, if you keep reading the iso we go over which ones were me, which ones were me pretending to be Yume, and which ones were just actually Yume, there) and you'll refamiliarize yourself with the current mastina meta.

[popsofctown]

Pops explain to me the scumslip loudly and clearly please.

Mastina knows that it is often pro-town to hide information as PR. Don't tell the scum who you're going to vig, they might doc that person, for instance. So she made up a narrative about playing a certain way day 1 to hide information. She thinks that makes her look more like a town PR, which she has claimed to be.

But when she bragged about information hiding, it involved a hypothetical about mastina getting shot. Mastina knows she cannot get shot because she is scum, so this hypothetical is purely imaginary. In the hypothetical, she gets shot, or maybe Ank does, it's unclear. She bragged about playing a way day 1 that would make this unclear, and she bragged to look town because obscuring information as town PR is often protown, so she thinks it makes her look good.

She didn't count out how the way the information would be hidden would hide it only from town, and not hide any information from scum, so it's not protown at all. Town!mastina would realize this after spending all of day 1 thinking it through. Scumstina perspective slips and doesn't think of it that way as she has only spent about fifteen minutes on the notion today.

[Menalque]

Well that day ended quite awkwardly. I honestly have no idea why DGB would suicide like that as town. It's quite depressing to have mislynched DGB for the first time in my life.

Anyone who thinks LLD/GI D1 was scum v scum need to reevaluate their social skills.

In no world does GI ever torture his own wife as scumbuddies.

I think xof was scum.

VOTE: SS

well apart from the fact that if they were SvS then the whole thing was just scum theatre?

I really don't like any of this post. the DGB stuff is screaming LAMIST, and then the defence of GI when there hasn't even really been any action there beyond vaguely considering it seems preemptive. Then the SS vote based on the 'xof was scummy' justification. Like, don't get me wrong, I could see SS scum. But based on his own content. Pushing the slot for only xof's posts/interactions and ignoring all the stuff SS has done since then seems weird to me as town who I'd expect to wanna sort the slot the best possible which means considering more information to make a more informed decision. Also only turning up after being called out for being absent.

[Firebringer]

oh firebringer wants to throw the game cool

Why he's allowed to play in mafia games I'll never understand.

Vote: Mastina

i give all mods a mean handjob

[Firebringer]

It's.
The same day
and there are 30 pages.
Are you fucking srs?

huge fight broke out and now we have to play by what fire wants because otherwise he’ll just use the governor fruit that Pine is offering to him and govern anything that isn’t what he wants

And people wonder why I policy lynch fire.

and never succeeded

[Katsuki]

It's.
The same day
and there are 30 pages.
Are you fucking srs?

huge fight broke out and now we have to play by what fire wants because otherwise he’ll just use the governor fruit that Pine is offering to him and govern anything that isn’t what he wants

And people wonder why I policy lynch fire.

oh wait mariar and I agree on something?!

Firebringer is a player whom town should lynch every game to increase their odds of winning.

[Firebringer]

oh wait mariar and I agree on something?!

Firebringer is a player whom town should lynch every game to increase their odds of winning.

are you still mad i called u barely average?

[mastina]

It's just a way of trying to guess at the agenda that caused her to be posting "I wanted something antitown day1". There are lots of different red PM reasons for scumstina to end up posting it, but the important thing is that it's not possible for towntina to post it.

"I wanted to be protown enough to make it ambiguous as to whether I died with a successful protection or just was outright the scum nightkill" (what I said)--> "I wanted something antitown D1" (what popsoftown is saying I said).

Sounds legit!

You are trying to edit your post to " I wanted something even though it has a bad side effect". What you posted was "I want the bad side effect."

Oh let's go back to what I originally said then, shall we?

she's on a precipice where she should be able to obvtown very fucking quickly.

I was obvtown from D1 alone.

I was playing in a way where on D1 I wanted it to be that when I flipped N1 people would wonder if I was Pine's nightkill target or if I pulled off a successful protection

--I, personally, would know it was the latter. I, personally, would've known Pine never nightkills me this game no matter how pro-town I've been.

But I wanted to be so damn town that to

other people

they wouldn't be able to tell if I made a successful protection or was just that damn town to earn a direct nightkill.

I didn't even get to read everything, I didn't even get to do everything I wanted to do (for instance, on D1 there were at least two or three occasions where I wanted to explain that my bulletproof vig with a neighborhood with Pine claim was self-evidently obviously a joke which I thought would be fun and Pine would find funny and was disappointed Pine didn't riff off of it at all), but I didn't NEED to do everything I wanted to do. I never as town get to do everything I want to do, doesn't mean I don't still manage to get ENOUGH done.

Yet alone D2 and D3.

You only need one day to realize I'm never scum here and yet you've got three.

I literally said:
I wanted to be so damn town that to other people they wouldn't be able to tell if I made a successful protection or was just that damn town to earn a direct nightkill.
1: This requires me to be the N1 scum nightkill. Not possible if I am myself scum.
2: This requires me to not flip scum. Not possible if I am scum.
3: This requires me to be playing so damn town that people can't tell if I made a successful protection or was directly nightkilled.
What in that is "I wanted that bad side effect"?
People not being able to tell if I made a successful protection or was directly nightkilled is a

good

thing, not a fucking bad one.
And you never countered my explanation as to why.
You never said otherwise.
In fact you fucking agreed with me by saying a bodyguard shouldn't be playing shittily.

[Firebringer]

kats do u no longer scumread mastina? U were yelling yesterday to lynch mastina as well.

[popsofctown]

Another way to look at it that maybe has a more down to earth angle is that it's very offtune that she was excited and tooting her horn about being an extremely viable N1 kill as bodyguard when bodyguard is a roll that makes it way less exciting to be an extremely viable N1 kill, less exciting than VT. Like wtf. Yes you should play protown because it's mafia but her thought process is not bodyguard. She's not a bodyguard.

[popsofctown]

mastina you are not a bodyguard

[popsofctown]

well maybe you are a scum bodyguard so that makes you more excited about being townread

[popsofctown]

did you want to prove Pine wrong for assigning you bodyguard? Pine can be savage

[Menalque]

VOTE: pops

[mastina]

mastina, why, given that ank is considered such a strong scumplayer, did you think that pine didn't draft just draft her first?

Because of knowing Pine.
I have a reasonable look into his mindset.
My look into his mindset isn't perfect.
It's not infallible.
But my look into Pine's mindset said that Ankamius was

probably

not his first pick. And with the probability of her not being Pine's first pick comes the certainty that Jingle sniped her from him. The only way she'd be scum then was if Pine, out of EVERY player in the ENTIRE game, prioritized Ankamius above all other options. And while she was a high priority pick, I didn't think she'd be the

highest

priority pick, not least of all because while Ank is a strong scum player, she's probably not even top ten when it comes to scum player strength in this game; there's probably at least ten players in the game who I'd call stronger scum players than Ank and a good five to ten extra players who I'd rate AT Ankamius's scumplay strength. (Mostly because pretty much everyone in this game is a skilled scum player, mind you.)

who did you think he would draft ahead of her and why were you confident enough that said person would be a higher draft pick for pine that it would make ank town?

I didn't think of who was first, so much as I thought who wouldn't be first. I considered possible first picks of jjh, Aristophanes in spite of saying Pine wouldn't first pick him twice, Krazy, and the worst, but fucked if I know. After Ank died, on D2, I later considered it could've been first pick Firebringer, but since that only was a thought occurring to me AFTER Ank died, it's not really as pertinent.