Magical Girls UPick - Heart of Shadow (Game Over)

[Tana and Ephraim]

like, the head of the hydra that is more adept at general scum gamestate manipulation wouldn't be responsible for us getting caught off of the back of a lynch on someone whose flip looks really good for us.

[Tana and Ephraim]

also important question

1) we apologize for blocking you croag but that was submitted super early in the dayphase while we thought we were lynching pops and you were just high probscum
2) what did you post to CS overnight

[Tana and Ephraim]

also important question

1) we apologize for blocking you croag but that was submitted super early in the dayphase while we thought we were lynching pops and you were just high probscum
2) what did you post to CS overnight

[Tana and Ephraim]

like i feel like anything that i say to point out that scumreads on our slot are really unreasonable will get ignored by virtue of the fact that they come from me
but i really do feel like town should not think that we are scum with the information that they have available to them.

[Tana and Ephraim]

at the very least, our odds of being scum should be probabilistically low enough that somewhere between that and the unlikeliness of actually getting scum us lynched the +ev of pushing on us is vanishingly small and not worth anyone's time.

[Tana and Ephraim]

and that's ignoring all the -ev of pushing on us in the significantly more likely universe where we're town
hey i'm doing what shadoweh called me out on doing and i don't feel at all bad about it ama

[Titus]

at the very least, our odds of being scum should be probabilistically low enough that somewhere between that and the unlikeliness of actually getting scum us lynched the +ev of pushing on us is vanishingly small and not worth anyone's time.

This is where I am at with you LLD and Katsuki.

[Tana and Ephraim]

I trust katsuki and LLD not to gamethrow. i'm assuming they're the same alignment if they're not masons. it's not worth my effort to consider the possibility of them being TvS
i have seriously considered the possibility of them being SvS but i think the possibility of other people being scum is way more likely than them.

[Tana and Ephraim]

dannflor pay attention to me

[Titus]

Like there's a small meta point on LLD and Kats that back in the 2010/2011 era scum would commonly reference buddies in opening. LLD did that. That alone is insufficient for a scumread too.

But it's not worth pursuing because so low odds like I said. Bullets can narrow down more likely targets.

I'm turning my attention to crumbs.

[Tana and Ephraim]

i guess i really should consider dannflor scum at some point

[Tana and Ephraim]

i have

still don't feeeeeeel it i think

his rce interactions not great but not sure if scummy

[Dannflor]

Tana and Ephraim are still town off of D1 play alone. The N1 scum kill isn't scum. If you're going to make the argument that because it's RC he would orchestrate that gambit to try and conf town himself, I would counter that RC isn't going to be lynched as scum—when was the last time that happened? It's better EV wise for scum!RC to use the N1 kill on a townie—potentially hitting a strong PR—and relying on his role to keep any rogue vigs with pet scum reads off him.

Anyway.

yeah I could see it

But, why? What do I accomplish there? You've never played with scum me but I have no issue bussing my buddies when I'm scum—you can confirm this for yourself. I don't understand what you believe the agenda behind naked unvoting my supposed buddy at L-1 is. I don't even try to push anyone else, I just unvote.

This is important because this feels like very shallow analysis to me and I'm struggling to read your thought process here as genuine.

dann who's scum fypov

I liked my Titus/RCE/Croag solve but I don't think that's exactly right anymore. Titus could be scum but is probably town due to the vig. Croag... I think can still be scum? I'm unsure how much her claim clears her.

Outside of that Oversoul probably takes the slot of one of the reads I was wrong on.

I think you could possibly be scum but I need to engage with you more.

[Tana and Ephraim]

I feel like scum!CS makes most sense in an Illuminati world where gameplay is also scum and shot his partner for town cred. But that feels unlikely for some reason.

i also had exactly this thought at the time

and i don't usually put stock in this tell for most people but i think my associative thought especially on developing this read isn't one that would easily be reverse engineered by scum

[Dannflor]

dannflor pay attention to me

hello cutie

[Tana and Ephraim]

heyyyyy

[Dannflor]

i guess i really should consider dannflor scum at some point

didn't you seriously consider it in the middle of D1?

or was that just a random moment of uncertainty or something

[Tana and Ephraim]

nah i've seriously considered it a few times i just usually go away consciously aware that i don't have

the greatest

reasons to townread you but still feeling like you're town anyway \o/

[Dannflor]

does it help if I tell you you're right

[Dannflor]

idk I'm aware I'm not playing like, maybe as blatantly town as I usually am able to

but I don't really know how to fix that this game

but I also don't think I'm playing anywhere near my scum game and the actual reasons for scum reading me seem ???

like I understand being within some players' PoEs but DDL's case on me for example I have several issues with

[Dannflor]

Is Croag town?

[Titus]

Spoiler: Le crumbs - Part 1

@RC, I'm going to ask you a series of odd-ball questions bc I think you're town and I have an odd decision to make. These questions aren't exclusive to RC. I do give more priority to townreads and strategic thinkers however.

Rank the utility of the following actions for town. Reasons not required. You may or may not factor in your own pm.

1) A cop and a vig
2) 2 roleblocks
3) 2 cops
4) A roleblock and a vig
5) 2 vigs
6) A roleblock and a cop

I claim a guilty on Sailor Senshi.

Lynch them today, if they're town, lynch us tomorrow.

I am inclined to second this, not based on the posting but for the fact

I shut off the cookie machine

and none of them noticed/commented. Yeah moon logic. Shiro got sad I didn't give him a cookie is not relevant.

This is me claiming the rb on Shiro.

Also some can't transform night 1 possibly throwing things off.

Why do you say this?

*cough* Think about that.

Also, my transform ability is different but has the same name as Chaos Wind. :/

I think DDL flip is possibly the most valuable information flip in the game.

+1

Would it be better for the dayblocker to hit LLD or DDL if both are scum?

UNVOTE: DDL

Sailor, did I leave you enough clues to find my flavor?

Spoiler: For Shiro

Apparently there are a lot of LoL fans together here.

I want to be risky and try for a scenario where townies with crappy abilities don't transform and townies with powerful abilities transform and we don't overheat. Worst case scenario our sane cop works every other nightbecause we overheat, best case scenario she acts every night. With the leashing, both best and worst case scenario is every other night.


Pandora and Loki are both represented as dark attribute characters in puzzles and dragons, and are both black. So that's why I picked the names.

Both their mythologies are kind of about subverted expectations.

The issue there is, how crappy do you expect everyone else's abilities to be? How can people judge their own abilities? If we have a gunsmith, should they transform? A tracker? A bodyguard? A motion detector?

Also some can't transform night 1 possibly throwing things off.

Also some can't transform night 1 possibly throwing things off.

Why do you say this?

*cough* Think about that.

Also, my transform ability is different but has the same name as Chaos Wind. :/

I left out the role crumbs.

Spoiler: Le Crumbs Part 2

And they said Gnar wasn't a magical girl but allowed this?

Gnar's a boy?

What if they identify as a girl?

Then the Rito will tell us he no longer identifies as a boy.

For now, I need to prepare for my date with Neeko. /joke.

Why Shyvana over Nidalee, Titus?

I'm a hothead and I'm M7 Shy. I mastered both builds. I'm garbage on Nidalee.

FMPOV SS is town

We can verify that scum nightblocked her then.

@Pops



@RC, Well that's your impetus. We can just agree on Pops then no? We can leave LLD to my sorting then.

[Dannflor]

Croag = ehhhhhh but i'll call her town for now

like is this read "could be scum but not worth going after because it never endgames"

[Tana and Ephraim]

hm

i need our hydra's "third opinion" at some point

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Titus is you shoot a mason I will murder you lol