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Post Post #2875 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:52 pm

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In post 2874, Garmr wrote:
In post 2854, profii wrote:I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum
Can you rephrase that to too cautious as scum.
Because I probably have a slightly above average scum game just my town game needs a little work in convincing people. Also while you say to stupid 2 games ago I literally worked out the entire scum team, their night actions, the reasons behind their night actions ect and no one listened to me which broke me that game still won through. (Bob can attest to this despite disagreeing to how I got there)

So what I like to gambit every once and a while as town sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. One time it worked I got scum to kill a scum read of mine (bob was my mason partner) another time I claimed weak hider day 1 (which i was) and literally out thought scum with my hides.

Stupid would be being the masons (the only power roles in a small game) and seeing a scum claim roleblocker and being like they are town.
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Post Post #2876 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:00 pm

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Sorry I will behave again.
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Post Post #2877 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:19 pm

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In post 2875, Garmr wrote:
In post 2874, Garmr wrote:
In post 2854, profii wrote:I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum
Can you rephrase that to too cautious as scum.
Because I probably have a slightly above average scum game just my town game needs a little work in convincing people. Also while you say to stupid 2 games ago I literally worked out the entire scum team, their night actions, the reasons behind their night actions ect and no one listened to me which broke me that game still won through. (Bob can attest to this despite disagreeing to how I got there)

So what I like to gambit every once and a while as town sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. One time it worked I got scum to kill a scum read of mine (bob was my mason partner) another time I claimed weak hider day 1 (which i was) and literally out thought scum with my hides.

Stupid would be being the masons (the only power roles in a small game) and seeing a scum claim roleblocker and being like they are town.
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Post Post #2878 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:31 pm

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Post Post #2879 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:43 pm

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#PrayForGarmr
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Post Post #2880 (ISO) » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:57 pm

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In post 2879, profii wrote:#PrayForGarmr
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Post Post #2881 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:04 am

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Post Post #2882 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:39 am

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So seems like I've missed a couple of pages of stuff. Will start catching up now.

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Post Post #2883 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:53 am

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I might be slightly confused.
Read through Garmr's ISO can't actually see where/what he claimed.
Is he claiming a normal watcher?

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Post Post #2884 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:59 am

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In post 2834, AaronFrost wrote:
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can you walk me through the case against Dave because I'm not really seeing it.
Sorry got side tracked I will do a tldr because people don't listen to me when I write paragraphs explaining the details. If you want me to expand on specific bits I can.

Points to do with me


1.A Tried to claim he was the one getting me posting. which read like look at me I'm doing something townie.

2. this continues on from 1 a bit but
In post 1007, Garmr wrote:4.I town read Elements
now I don't want to go into it because it involves set up speculation
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he mentions my post and indicates his been reading them but when I claim vouyer he acts like there's nothing there and throws shade on it by saying are voyours in the game anymore.

3.He tip toes around calling me scum in post with out saying it out straight. The reasons he uses don't actually apply to me this game. I don't need town cred because I was being town read.

4.
In post 1437, davesaz wrote:Posting almost exclusively things that look town motivated
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If he had such a strong town read day 1 of me why did it change so fast when I gambled on trying to save carlily. This looks like opportunistic scum

5. Says town don't claim out of no where literally has no reason that applies to me to scum read it and we had three claim two confirmed (masons) 1 not confirmed but probably is doctor. Dave makes a special exception of me becuase he thinks he can push a easy lynch through he isn't aware I survived worse scenarios as town.


Things that don't involve me

1.He had no issues believing in Tchills claim despite Scum reading them through out the game. He doesn't second guess himself either This indicates to me he comes from a place of knowing.

2. Stayed clear of both elements and cliff booth despite scum reading cliff and putting elements in his not town motivated posting. He opened himself to lynch both but didn't make a decision despite being active.


3. Despite a lot of post he doesn't have many very solid stances. Like the closet to commitment he has is his vote on me and it's badly played with little to no pushes at all. If he was hunting you think he would commit to one thing and actually push.
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Post Post #2885 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:59 am

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In post 2883, Hectic wrote:I might be slightly confused.
Read through Garmr's ISO can't actually see where/what he claimed.
Is he claiming a normal watcher?

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Voyeur.
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Post Post #2886 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:02 am

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In post 1669, Garmr wrote:pff that can't be true
because I'm a voyeur
neighbour 5 shot doctor fruit eating porn star.
In post 1007, Garmr wrote:4.I town read Elements now
I don't want to go into it because it involves set up speculation
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In post 2796, Garmr wrote:Also I was originally going to test gamma with the power role drop because voyeur is a type of watching role. But I realised bob was in the game and that could fuck up the results. So I told Gamma about what I was trying to do to test him because scum would probably think I'm a Vt if I did making use of my initial plan in a different way. 4d chess
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Post Post #2887 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:09 am

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Enquiry to Tchill:

What was your read on YAG/Texcat end of day 1?
Why not track your scumreads?

Should counterclaim this if you're a tracker. Very unlikely there's a watcher and 2 trackers in game.
Never mind, this is a Large game and duplicates are possible, disregard that. (I've read that it's good to leave stuff like this in your posts, as town are more likely to change their mind, so you can get some insight into my towny thought process and really stamp me in as a Survivor.)

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Post Post #2888 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:15 am

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In post 2886, Garmr wrote:
In post 1669, Garmr wrote:pff that can't be true
because I'm a voyeur
neighbour 5 shot doctor fruit eating porn star.
In post 1007, Garmr wrote:4.I town read Elements now
I don't want to go into it because it involves set up speculation
.
In post 2796, Garmr wrote:Also I was originally going to test gamma with the power role drop because voyeur is a type of watching role. But I realised bob was in the game and that could fuck up the results. So I told Gamma about what I was trying to do to test him because scum would probably think I'm a Vt if I did making use of my initial plan in a different way. 4d chess
Here some for quick reference hectic.
So did you actually townread Elements since you're a voyeur or was that just a crumb?
Isn't it a certainty that there's gonna be some other investigative in the game?

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Post Post #2889 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:28 am

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In post 2888, Hectic wrote:
In post 2886, Garmr wrote:
In post 1669, Garmr wrote:pff that can't be true
because I'm a voyeur
neighbour 5 shot doctor fruit eating porn star.
In post 1007, Garmr wrote:4.I town read Elements now
I don't want to go into it because it involves set up speculation
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In post 2796, Garmr wrote:Also I was originally going to test gamma with the power role drop because voyeur is a type of watching role. But I realised bob was in the game and that could fuck up the results. So I told Gamma about what I was trying to do to test him because scum would probably think I'm a Vt if I did making use of my initial plan in a different way. 4d chess
Here some for quick reference hectic.
So did you actually townread Elements since you're a voyeur or was that just a crumb?
Isn't it a certainty that there's gonna be some other investigative in the game?

WikiWikiWeb is the world's oldest wiki. At the respectable age of 24, it boasts gallons of discussion regarding software design patterns. Highly recommended.
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Post Post #2890 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:34 am

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Why have 5 PRs claimed by day 2?
I may reading the wrong wiki, but that doesn't seem like optimal play. Why did you claim, Garmr?
What do you mean by you were paranoid he was a ninja?
Why does you being a voyeur make Elements' claim any more believable to you? Every Large game is gonna have investigatives, so your voyeur shouldn't change your perception on whether Elements was fakeclaiming or not.

Tchill's done this thing again where's he said something along the lines of "give me a bit/second" and then come back with a PR claim. Did this in a previous game with me where he was scum. Though, overall, he feels different enough this game, he effort posted a lot more in that game, especially towards the end. He hasn't done much here.
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Post Post #2891 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:47 am

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In post 2890, Hectic wrote:Why have 5 PRs claimed by day 2?
I may reading the wrong wiki, but that doesn't seem like optimal play. Why did you claim, Garmr?
What do you mean by you were paranoid he was a ninja?
Why does you being a voyeur make Elements' claim any more believable to you? Every Large game is gonna have investigatives, so your voyeur shouldn't change your perception on whether Elements was fakeclaiming or not.

Tchill's done this thing again where's he said something along the lines of "give me a bit/second" and then come back with a PR claim. Did this in a previous game with me where he was scum. Though, overall, he feels different enough this game, he effort posted a lot more in that game, especially towards the end. He hasn't done much here.
Element is dead he flipped watcher his town.

I got paranoid when it looked like he was fishing for roles thinking he may be a ninja (or someone on his team) trying to fish me out but decided that Tchill was the better lynch after Elements claimed and I refrained from commenting on it because I didn't want to out myself.

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Just read back at your reaction. What were you thinking being so certain elements was lying you said you were tracker right. Didn't you think jeez ,my role synergizes with his he could be town or did the fishing put you off a bit like me.
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Post Post #2892 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:08 am

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Don't think you're understanding my question. Every game with 20+ players is going to have investigatives like a watcher/tracker/cop.
So you being a voyeur isn't useful for knowing there are investigatives in this game, since that's a given anyway.
So why was the fact you're a voyeur make Elements' claim more believable?

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Post Post #2893 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:11 am

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Don't really get what you mean about the Ninja part honestly. You were afraid you wouldn't be able to see him investigate people because he was a ninja? So your role would be useless for verifying him? What gave you that impression?

Don't get me wrong, you're a great guy, Garmr, but I'm struggling to understand your thought process here.
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Post Post #2894 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:49 am

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In post 2892, Hectic wrote:Don't think you're understanding my question. Every game with 20+ players is going to have investigatives like a watcher/tracker/cop.
So you being a voyeur isn't useful for knowing there are investigatives in this game, since that's a given anyway.
So why was the fact you're a voyeur make Elements' claim more believable?

3D Monster Maze was the first 3D game ever made. To this day, the graphics and gameplay still hold up to the likes of Pacman, and is a cult classic among millions of people to this day.
it' synargizes with watcher. If we watch the same target we can get the actions and who was on their meaning scum probably have a role that easily identifys them with this combo.
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Post Post #2895 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:50 am

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In post 2893, Hectic wrote:Don't really get what you mean about the Ninja part honestly. You were afraid you wouldn't be able to see him investigate people because he was a ninja? So your role would be useless for verifying him? What gave you that impression?

Don't get me wrong, you're a great guy, Garmr, but I'm struggling to understand your thought process here.
It's fine many don't, what do you think oh my case on dave?
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Post Post #2896 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:20 am

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I have a few points to address:

1- I am coming clean here: I am caffeinated already
2- Bingle is bloody scum, and you're all stupid not to see it (those who did are not included in the PT with "S.T.U.P.I.D" tattoos on their foregeads
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Post Post #2897 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:21 am

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My reads are usually great! It’s my analysis moreso than my reads, I guess.
This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth

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Post Post #2898 (ISO) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:22 am

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Fuck, i thought I posted in the wrong game, but JJD did
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