Micro 891 - Death List (Game Over)

[Nymph]

Usually town makes arguments to get someone lynched and maybe makes arguments for a group of people who are scummy.

When someone predicts and lines down the lynches, that doesn't feel like scum hunting. That feels like an agenda and it's bad.

@GIF: Can you prod Not_Mafia and Hectic? We never got notifications on day start so they might not know the game is running.

[MariaR]

I want to hear more from Hectic at the moment for my own theory.

[Nymph]

I want to hear more from Hectic at the moment for my own theory.

I have a question for you. I want to understand your thought process a bit more.

Why "kid"? I get the feeling it's an experienced alt. And no, I'm not hinting I know the main, I figure that sort of thing out.

Kid is just a slang term I use. You humans have slang terms don't ya? Alt or not that's not the issue here? Why don't you tell me what you think of Nymph eh pops? You really don't see what I'm talking about right now?

Poooops you're ruining my RP! Don't make me duct tape your mouth shut.

*Ahem* Sorry about that, don't know what came over me. Don't you think Nymph feels a bit strange? Off? Odd? Yeah, those work. I get you don't dance to my beat but still. The tone comes off like it has an agenda not something trying to solve. Come help me switch up this list will ya?

You accuse me of having an agenda and then immediately vote a shuffle that targets me. This implies that the reason you voted for me seemed to stem from an agenda. What makes Azuresky's really blatant agenda not ping your radars really hard right now?

[MariaR]

Having an agenda isn't the base on why I would find someone scummy. Because I think every player has one to some extent. It's the agenda that your pushing and the actions around it that would make me question it.

Azuresky is really blatant in what they're doing and not trying to hide anything. Along with how they started the game compared to now feels pretty normal to me. You were a lot more of an oddball then that.

[Nymph]

Having an agenda isn't the base on why I would find someone scummy. Because I think every player has one to some extent. It's the agenda that your pushing and the actions around it that would make me question it.

Azuresky is really blatant in what they're doing and not trying to hide anything. Along with how they started the game compared to now feels pretty normal to me. You were a lot more of an oddball then that.

Maybe. I just felt like Azuresky was literally lining up lynches which makes the dynamics feel not really town motivated whereas I had probably one read when you said I had an agenda.

I'll let others chime in on this.

[MariaR]

Having an agenda isn't the base on why I would find someone scummy. Because I think every player has one to some extent. It's the agenda that your pushing and the actions around it that would make me question it.

Azuresky is really blatant in what they're doing and not trying to hide anything. Along with how they started the game compared to now feels pretty normal to me. You were a lot more of an oddball then that.

Maybe. I just felt like Azuresky was literally lining up lynches which makes the dynamics feel not really town motivated whereas I had probably one read when you said I had an agenda.

I'll let others chime in on this.

mmm fair enough. Can't you say I was doing the same thing? I'm making it no secret who I want my f3 players to be even though I'm lynching around it

[Nymph]

Having an agenda isn't the base on why I would find someone scummy. Because I think every player has one to some extent. It's the agenda that your pushing and the actions around it that would make me question it.

Azuresky is really blatant in what they're doing and not trying to hide anything. Along with how they started the game compared to now feels pretty normal to me. You were a lot more of an oddball then that.

Maybe. I just felt like Azuresky was literally lining up lynches which makes the dynamics feel not really town motivated whereas I had probably one read when you said I had an agenda.

I'll let others chime in on this.

mmm fair enough. Can't you say I was doing the same thing? I'm making it no secret who I want my f3 players to be even though I'm lynching around it

You're not going lynch X, Y, Z. You're unsure and trying to use pools to deduce relations.

[MariaR]

Okay you're not wrong.

[popsofctown]

Having an agenda isn't the base on why I would find someone scummy. Because I think every player has one to some extent. It's the agenda that your pushing and the actions around it that would make me question it.

Azuresky is really blatant in what they're doing and not trying to hide anything. Along with how they started the game compared to now feels pretty normal to me. You were a lot more of an oddball then that.

Maybe. I just felt like Azuresky was literally lining up lynches which makes the dynamics feel not really town motivated whereas I had probably one read when you said I had an agenda.

I'll let others chime in on this.

mmm fair enough. Can't you say I was doing the same thing? I'm making it no secret who I want my f3 players to be even though I'm lynching around it

What's an f3 player?

Going by just NKA and todays play, my god does it incriminate Nymph.

If you see it from my egotistical point of view, elements should have been shuffled as he was going to get lynched today if he was shuffled because of said shuffle and his D1 play. Now I can think there are a few reasons why Elements was killed:

1. Mafia want to save their shuffle for later, to make sure mafia doesnt get killed at night, making me think its someone with suspison (Dunn/rrrrrrR)
2. To keep giving Pops control of the town, as someone in the mafia is pop’s TR (Locke/Nymph). Given how Hectic and I defended Elements yesterday, maybe mafia was worried that if I could get a townbloc going with Elements/Hectic, mafia would have to try harder. Given how Nymph was looking to raise suspision on me today to her townreads lolR and Pops, Im thinking 2 is the answer.

Nymph says “Why would I put myself at a disadvantage?” But is she? She knows pops is going to WK for her and knows that people are going to follow her so is Nymph really in trouble for making a statement.

A Nymph/NM scumteam autowins tomorrow with my lynch today since Nymph could sheep my previous read on Hectic and get Pops and Maria to lynch.

But hey, its all just NKA, right?

Ok, time for realposting: you opened this post with "going by NKA and todays play", but then basically went on to, "going by NKA and NKA Nymph is scum". And you're right that NKA is weak and all of this is about as weak as any other NKA. It depends on me "staying" "town leader" right after yesterday's lynches were a compromise from my ideal, and

also

depends on my reads staying static, and depends on a lot of perceptions and realities lining up (as an example, as Dunnstral pointed out, he doesn't perceive himself as under suspicion, and if that's equally towntruthtelling and scumtruthtelling that angle is debunked).

I don't get why you're going into nightplay to solve the game, in this setup of all setups. It doesn't seem the natural place to go.
We still need to sort people. If we figure out who the mafia are, we win the game. This setup doesn't turn that on its head or anything. If you want to try to kill Nymph in a way that gives me less than a zillion goosebumps, please case her posts in a way where I believe you believe it instead of this stuff.


I'm a little surprised you're complaining about me ignoring you when I didn't see any direct feedback on the concept of lynching 2 people that belong to different hypothetical pairings today

It's whatever though.

[Dunnstral]

What's an f3 player?

final 3

[Dunnstral]

I don't think it's worth going into mafia choices, they could have framed elements yet didn't, they probably value the ability to get the lynch off themself, or frame somebody later. It just wasn't worth going for elements at that time with the other choices available, or something like that.

Speaking of which, the other choices available were:

Reverse: Pops
Pair: MariaR
Half: Not_Mafia

[Hectic]

okay i'm back
catchup begins now
am on the London underground so beware
will be in and out of connectivity like a weasel

[Hectic]

only up to page 23 but am about to lose connection
so:
interesting that mafia let Elements die
so we can guarantee the top 2 die now
like lining up scum with a sniper

like Azure's read on Locke
his townread on me didn't really make sense

Dunn pushing pops is interesting
which two would you put at the top Dunn?

[Hectic]

does SKIP count as a swap for mafia?
mafia can use one type of swap?
or can only swap once?

mod probably clarified this already
but clearly not well enough
am a very analytical player and didn't notice
so
someone didn't do their job
you know
could help with comodding while playing this game
that cool Freezer Guy?
send me a PM if so
promise to not let spoiler info affect my in-game play

yes i know this is all nonsense
but i lost connection so can't change pages
so just filling the time with some golden content ya know
am like King Midas right now
but am more apologetic than a Canadian bumping into you

wait it's back

[Hectic]

I don't think it's worth going into mafia choices, they could have framed elements yet didn't, they probably value the ability to get the lynch off themself, or frame somebody later. It just wasn't worth going for elements at that time with the other choices available, or something like that.

Speaking of which, the other choices available were:

Reverse: Pops
Pair: MariaR
Half: Not_Mafia

if it's 1 swap only
they were right to let elements die
was townreading him and would've pushed for his non-death
and makes much more sense to save it to protect themselves
like you said already
good job Dunn
doing some great work out there

[Hectic]

Having an agenda isn't the base on why I would find someone scummy. Because I think every player has one to some extent. It's the agenda that your pushing and the actions around it that would make me question it.

Azuresky is really blatant in what they're doing and not trying to hide anything. Along with how they started the game compared to now feels pretty normal to me. You were a lot more of an oddball then that.

agreed
and Azure's "agenda" is reasonable
kind of like Caeser reforming the Grain Toll

though Azure
you semi-flipped on me when you realised i mentioned Locke was buddying me earlier?
that the only reason?

[Dunnstral]

Where did I push pops?

[Dunnstral]

which two would you put at the top Dunn?

I don't know, I needed to hear from you and NM

[popsofctown]

GiF posted that he's replacing Azuresky in the Replacements thread. He didn't post about it here.
Did GiF give you the daystart PM Nymph requested Hectic
Or can I be mad about that too

[Nymph]

Can you guys town spew? Can our replacements actually post stuff? Find out next time in Death List.

[popsofctown]

It's past 48 hours since daystart and Not_Mafia hasn't posted
The replacements need replacement

[Nymph]

Hahahaha imagine if it's 2 deep wolves and we're about to get rekt.

[popsofctown]

If people don't play the game we probably get wrecked regardless :/

[GuyInFreezer]

Deadline is frozen until I fine Azuresky's replacement

[popsofctown]

GiF that's not the only vacant slot Not Mafia does not exist