newbie 1956 - car seat headrest [we gotta go back]

[eth0s]

I'm gonna be at work for quite a bit longer. Can someone give me a new perspective to look at for when I return home?

[faüstiv]

I'm gonna be at work for quite a bit longer. Can someone give me a new perspective to look at for when I return home?

get a new job

[eth0s]

Working on that actually

[eth0s]

So this is where we're at eh?
UNVOTE:

[eth0s]

Something stinks here. There should either be a person or two really driving this wagon or advocating against it or for an alternative. The silence is unnerving. I don't want to be apart of the wagon in this gamestate.

[faüstiv]

It's been weekend and most people are based in the US. I think it'll pick up over the next few hours.

[eth0s]

we got 23 hours left so I sure hope so

[Draynth]

Sorry i had a long day at college
I keep going back and forth on it but I think I've decided that faustiv is marginally more likely to flip scum than egix. Although eth0s might have been overthinking some things I think the main point about lack of counterwagons was very valid in retroscpect.

I'ts worrying how little either of them have been doing to try and avoid being lynched thouugh

[Draynth]

So right now, unless I'm mistaken, Faustiv is at L-1 and Egix is at L-2?

I'm around all day tomorrow so can make changes if necessary but if everything stays the same as currently

I'll hammer faustiv

I feel like we may be able to gleam a lot from either of these lynches once we sit down at look at how either player flips + their interactions so tomorrow will be important

[Draynth]

I'ts worrying how little either of them have been doing to try and avoid being lynched thouugh

Moreso egix than faustiv i guess
I think scum would be more panicky about being lynched here, especially if egix saw that a faustiv wagon had gained some traction?

[Jamelia]

I’ll write a bunch when I’m home from work. I have some thoughts I just want to be able to type it out without being rushed at work lol

[Errantparabola]

this sea is too familiar
how many nights have i drowned here?

how many times have i drowned?

- Ballad of the Costa Concordia,

Teens of Denial

votecount 2.6

Egix96

(2): faüstiv, Spangled

faüstiv

(2): Egix96, Jamelia

Not Voting

(3): Geyde, Draynth, eth0s

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-10-08 12:24:00)

[faüstiv]

So right now, unless I'm mistaken, Faustiv is at L-1 and Egix is at L-2?

I'm around all day tomorrow so can make changes if necessary but if everything stays the same as currently

I'll hammer faustiv

I feel like we may be able to gleam a lot from either of these lynches once we sit down at look at how either player flips + their interactions so tomorrow will be important

Explain why you think I am scum over Egix?

[Draynth]

Oh, I was wrong, they're both on L-2.
I'll wait for more people to give input before putting someone at L-1 then, like i said I'll be able to check regularly tomorrow

[Draynth]

So right now, unless I'm mistaken, Faustiv is at L-1 and Egix is at L-2?

I'm around all day tomorrow so can make changes if necessary but if everything stays the same as currently

I'll hammer faustiv

I feel like we may be able to gleam a lot from either of these lynches once we sit down at look at how either player flips + their interactions so tomorrow will be important

Explain why you think I am scum over Egix?

It's a common occurence for you to show up only when someone mentions scumreading you and not giving any commentary outside of that discussion.
Your day 1 play with regards to NMSA was bad. You mentioned him once where you said he was null leaning scum and right before he was lynched you were certain he was going to flip town. That was very scummy looking back on it, I even mentioned it at the time.
The lack of resistance on an egix wagon was worrying in retrospect. Perhaps he really is just scum who everyone was scumreading but I don't think I've ever really seen that happen without at least one person saying otherwise.

I dunno your play has just been weird to me

[Spangled]

I really don't like that so much of spangled's reasoning hinges on a POST 75 read list. That hardly means anything at this point except for potentially outing associations and that's part of what contributed to my bad hammer on nmsa

Yeah I know it’s a bit iffy — and I am worried I’m wrong, oh so very worried — but my biggest thought is: why did he feel the need to comment on every player? Post 75 he shouldn’t have that much to say about AI things, and he really didn’t. So why bother say most of it?

The biggest thing that’s holding me back from kinda locking this scum — although that’s not correct but any other way I try to type it makes less sense — is why he decided to go at anyone at all; wouldn’t the safer move as scum be to not attack anyone?
But then again it can be explained from a scum pov; if he has a super null readslist that’s scummy in and of itself.

Because they were still thoughts that I had, and even if they weren't necessarily alignment-relevant I figured there was no harm in stating them.

@ Second paragraph: In all honesty I really don't think that's a valid argument. You've answered your own question anyway.

Excellent! Why isn’t it a valid argument?

[faüstiv]

So right now, unless I'm mistaken, Faustiv is at L-1 and Egix is at L-2?

I'm around all day tomorrow so can make changes if necessary but if everything stays the same as currently

I'll hammer faustiv

I feel like we may be able to gleam a lot from either of these lynches once we sit down at look at how either player flips + their interactions so tomorrow will be important

Explain why you think I am scum over Egix?

1. It's a common occurence for you to show up only when someone mentions scumreading you and not giving any commentary outside of that discussion.

2. Your day 1 play with regards to NMSA was bad. You mentioned him once where you said he was null leaning scum and right before he was lynched you were certain he was going to flip town. That was very scummy looking back on it, I even mentioned it at the time.

3. The lack of resistance on an egix wagon was worrying in retrospect. Perhaps he really is just scum who everyone was scumreading but I don't think I've ever really seen that happen without at least one person saying otherwise.

I dunno your play has just been weird to me

1. That's not true at all. At the start if D1 maybe, but as I said I was pretty disengaged with the game. I'd argue that towards the end of D1 and all of D2 I have been one of the most active contributors and I haven't really been concretely scumread by anyone in D2 until yesterday.

2. So you scumread me because a townread I had on a player was correct? Yeah I said he was nullscum to begin with, but I liked his interactions with Jamelia and overall I had a good feeling about the slot.

3. The thing is, Egix has no reason to be worried because every time someone puts him on L1, someone else takes him straight back off because they're paranoid about the slot and second guessing themselves. Perhaps if people had kept their votes on him and applied more pressure, we'd have gotten more out of him.

Dryanth, what's your thoughts on Egix?

[eth0s]

I know this doesn't really help anything at all but I would like the record to show that I have totally and completely psyched myself out this game and I believe there is mod error and you are all scum

[eth0s]

I think it's not really fair to say faustiv only comes when there's fingers pointed at him. I know he already addressed it. But regardless of his alignment he is right. He has started to be more proactive today. Although I am still looking to prove the motivation behind why he has done so

[faüstiv]

I think it's not really fair to say faustiv only comes when there's fingers pointed at him. I know he already addressed it. But regardless of his alignment he is right. He has started to be more proactive today. Although I am still looking to prove the motivation behind why he has done so

I'm just more invested in the game now. Read into that however you want.

[eth0s]

Faustiv have you ever clearly answered why you defended nmsa the way you did day 1? When you were advocating for people to vote for me and saying that nmsa was town. Why did you do that

[eth0s]

@draynth can you expand on this reasoning? I still don't understand why you should feel more likely to be NKed in this scenario rather than me. I only have one explanation that even kind of makes sense and it really doesn't under a fine tooth comb. I want to hear your reasoning before I reveal what I think.

Right, if anyobdy here were to genuinely think about the order of my posts from yesterday FROM MY POINT OF VIEW they'd understand why I think I'd be killed if scum!eth0s knew I spotted the mason slip.
Seriously, just think about it.

[eth0s]

I genuinely can't believe we're just accepting that that hammer happened yesterday.

This is an odd progression after admitting that your approach to my fakeclaim was shadethrowey. Why continue to throw shade instead of voting me? If you didn't want to vote me then what does not accepting the hammer entail?

[eth0s]

But I looked at the macro and Ethos's plays don't make logical sense from scumpov. Fake mason is worse than faking any other PR as the PRs would instantly know it as fake. The only reason for him to fake mason is to draw NKs.

This doesn't make sense coming from Geyde. He has shown too much knowledge and ability to analyze motivation to not know that I could pull this play as scum for wifom reasons. Why did he write it off as a town play so easily. And furthermore, why does he still have such a hard time putting me above a null read if he thought that play's only purpose would be to "draw NKs"? This progression doesn't make sense. Too lazy to dig them up right now but read on his recent thoughts on me for a comparison.

[eth0s]

Right, if anyobdy here were to genuinely think about the order of my posts from yesterday FROM MY POINT OF VIEW they'd understand why I think I'd be killed if scum!eth0s knew I spotted the mason slip.
Seriously, just think about it.

Ethos is arguing the same thing from the other side
The cases on both sides don't make feasible sense
I don't understand why you would be killed if you made known that you spotted the mason slip, considering flips
Do you have a particular reason to believe that, because I'm finding it extremely hard to get your viewpoint when it comes to Ethos. I don't see a macro where he's scum based on the arguments you've made. A lot of his weird stuff d1 could easily be explained by him being a replacement and as such having to play in double time

He was townread by multiple players by the end of day 1, so why does he fakeclaim mason as scum?
Why does him spotting that you knew his mason slip cause you to be the NK?
Why does he quickhammer as scum instead of as town there?
Why, at a macro level, is Ethos definitely scum?

Your current additions to thread aren't doing anything to change my mind

add this to weird things Geyde has said about why he should be at least townleaning me but isn't