Mini Theme 2103 - E Bastard

[Vorkuta]

Does 1 cult whatever and 1 cult recruiter who is town make sense?

no because there isn't a single member of the cult faction until drew begins his recruiting rite @RCE???

/s

*ahem*

13 => 9:3:1?

[gameplay506]

I mean
Its not totally unbelievable
I just have some really hard time seeing Drew as town here with such a role

Pedit: @Shos Drew claimed to be a town cult recruiter with every night that he is alive, a random townie getting recruited to a cult due to his role

[gameplay506]

no because there isn't a single member of the cult faction until drew begins his recruiting rite @RCE??? /s

And you know this because?

[Vorkuta]

This is too setupspecy for me

Well for now I will say.... there most likely is a cult.

And I may be helping the cult recruit.

In a nutshell, every night I am alive some one randomly(I have no say in the matter) is recruited into a cult. This happens the first two nights, and maybe the third. Also I cannot be one of the recruits.

[shos]

In a nutshell, every night I am alive some one randomly(I have no say in the matter) is recruited into a cult. This happens the first two nights, and maybe the third. Also I cannot be one of the recruits.

I missed this somehow

I kinda think this is a lie tho

what sane, even bastard, mod would use such a role; the townie will surely claim D1 and be lynched, thus turning the cult into a non-recruiting minority which is too small if at all, or...something.
I'm gonna bet jester, or backup of some sort infolving korina.

On another note, does anyone know why the game is called "E Bastard"?

[Vorkuta]

I kinda think this is a lie tho

I'd buy it tbh. I'd buy it even more if drew wasn't informed, but yeah.
Eitherway, it makes sense to look into the people who are all like "HANG HIM" without even taking a second to think about what other factions he could be when making this claim (*ahem* RCE, cyrus...)

On another note, does anyone know why the game is called "E Bastard"?

Well when you signed up for this, it was called EXTREMELY Bastard no?

[gameplay506]

The imputs from vorkuta make me puke a little in my mouth
E=Extremely(Bastard)
I am betting on jester or something else too.

[gameplay506]

Eitherway, it makes sense to look into the people who are all like "HANG HIM" without even taking a second to think about what other factions he could be when making this claim (*ahem* RCE, cyrus...)

Cyrus basically said don't hang him and unvoted?

[gameplay506]

Also idk
How is hang him a bad response to someone claiming a role that is actively hurting town?

[Vorkuta]

The imputs from vorkuta make me puke a little in my mouth

namely?

Cyrus basically said don't hang him and unvoted?

huh...... no.

my unvote is to state i only voted for rvs if i re vote its not rvs.

clarification- ok that's fair, but you lose me in

however being bastard it could be town vs cult in which case killing doctor would prevent cult from growing. but we dont know how many are already in the cult

can you spoonfeed me why voting drew is bad (from a mechanical PoV and not "it's a dick move")

Reading through now, and with the role that was claimed, things are looking interesting as it is. A cult where no one knows who gets recruited, and chances are there's a whole lot more. At this point, I just wanna no-lynch and see what happens in the game night, but I don't know if that goes against my win condition or not.
He unvoted for reasons that are completely unclear to me, but is saving the "we need to hang drew" attitude
UNVOTE:

lynch me so noo random town besides me dies or lynch doctor so the cult don't grow, but a no lynch results in one person dieing any way.

[gameplay506]

In a nutshell, every night I am alive some one randomly(I have no say in the matter) is recruited into a cult. This happens the first two nights, and maybe the third. Also I cannot be one of the recruits.

sounds like we have to find cult before it spreads so .. my vote on doctor was random i think its time i unvote till i can find scum UNVOTE: doctor drew

>I need to find cult before it spreads
>Drew claims cult spreading ability
>Unvotes Drew

Yes,vorkuta?

[Vorkuta]

How is hang him a bad response to someone claiming a role that is actively hurting town?

if even a shitty player like me can stop the kneejerk reaction to vote for drew because of

Obligatory reminder that this could be a venge, lynchproof, or jester play

then you really have to ask why the other players are blindly calling for his head

Yes,vorkuta?

yeah exactly

D1: (pulling numbers out of various orfices here)2 cultists, 1 recruiter (drew), (2 total cultists).
We miraculously lynch a cultist= 1 cultist and 1 recruiter remaining
N1: drew convertes
D2: We're back to 2 cultists and 1 recruiter.

Progress done = 0

We address the symptoms and contain the spread of this bastard infection BEFORE trying to find the source.
Cyrus is not even unvoting due to "jester" reasons, he's unvoting for.... "cult hunting" reasons, something RCE doesn't even think exists on D1.
All of this is concerning

[gameplay506]

Thing is how does RCE not accounting for Drew being a jester make RCE scum? From all I know if Drew gets lynched he wins solo so its not really scumindicative rathet than dumbindicative what RCE is doing

[gameplay506]

Cyrus is not even unvoting due to "jester" reasons, he's unvoting for.... "cult hunting" reasons,

Vorkuta your not making any sense
Cyrus is unvoting the claimed cult rectuiter for cult hunting reasons
How is that better or even in any way comparable to RCE voting Drew for his cult recruiter claim

[Doctor Drew]

Only time for a quick post, but read my role PM again.

It is heavily implied there already are cult members, or at least one cult member already.

There is a lot to my role heh.

[Vorkuta]

than dumbindicative what RCE is doing

perfect.
excellent.
we're on the same page

Personal respect/meta read.
I think RCE is too good a player to genuinely be this bad as town.
and I see benefit in scum!rce causing and creating this chaos and living in it.
We have players like shos who miss key posts every now and then, so it would suck completely if the first thing they see when they log-in is RCE's BS which, as it stands right now, I'm like the only one contesting.
I think this is a scum angle, ESPECIALLY considering his vig threats at me (but that's even more meta and between us)

[gameplay506]

I think the discussion to be had here is
Should Drew be lynched today?
Yes/No
This should be considered first before we try going for anything else here
Vorkuta you go first

[gameplay506]

It is heavily implied there already are cult members, or at least one cult member already.

Cool
Cyrus is cult
Drew is their recruiter
Hence why Cyrus is reacting so strange to that claim and is happy to die in the place of Drew
Yw

[gameplay506]

Eh I don't follow what you are saying
RCE has uncoted Drew so he isn't really pushing Drew anymore
His vig threats are something I see every game from at least one other player

[Vorkuta]

It is heavily implied there already are cult members, or at least one cult member already.

i love you, thank you for giving this sacred and vital information so I can rub it in people's faces

How is that better or even in any way comparable to RCE voting Drew for his cult recruiter claim

->drew: unvotes without a clear reason without realizing that this is literally "whack-a-mole" and where BEST CASE SCENARIO one cultist falls another will rise and WORST CASE SCENARIO we miss and the cultist tumor grows

->RCE: the dumbness of it was explained ^

[gameplay506]

->drew: unvotes without a clear reason without realizing that this is literally "whack-a-mole" and where BEST CASE SCENARIO one cultist falls another will rise and WORST CASE SCENARIO we miss and the cultist tumor grows

Not following
Whatever this was supposed to mean, it makes little sense
Your arguments on RCEscum are not exactly good either
What about your position on Drew?

[Vorkuta]

Vorkuta you go first

I've already probably made my position on this fiasco relatively clear, so I gladly transfer the privilege of answering to someone who needs to step it up activity-wise

Yw

hypothetical cultleader!baezu is now laughing like a maniac.

I like this reasoning but I think it's too surface level.
Cyrus buckled ridiculously under RVS pressure and I don't think it's that straighforward

RCE has uncoted Drew so he isn't really pushing Drew anymore

scum!RCE found himself a

bigger threat

better mislynch target in yours truly
the fact that he isn't actively "pushing" drew has to do with activity/login-times (I had RTI with him for a while), but his position on him is clear (and contradictory but wtv)
quick refresher

I'm cool with lynching doc tomorrow. 1 cultist but they may not be able to recruit without doc.

His vig threats are something I see every game from at least one other player

*inhales*
*exhales*

The fact that you're doing it AGAIN is telling- you want to leash me and subtly brag about how you've got me in a vice.
The equivalent thing for me to do would be to claim multitasking fruit vendor to anyone who was in both games.

[gameplay506]

I feel like I'm talking to a wall
My arguments/words seem to just drown there somewhere

Gonna just wait for the others to reply

[Vorkuta]

Whatever this was supposed to mean, it makes little sense

1- Drew: "sorry guys, I'm kind of responsible for cult recruiting"
2- Cyrus (who was RVS voting Drew): Unvotes
3- also Cyrus: "we should cult!hunt"
are there any problems with the watered down version of events (as I perceived them) so far?

Your arguments on RCEscum are not exactly good either

TL;DR
-RCE is too good to honestly and genuinely buy the idea that this setup is "all town on D1 with 0 scum factions and no one is bad until N1 when drew recruits people"- hence this is scum!RCE trying to distract/gaslight/manipulate/misrep the setup as far away from reality as he could. I'm also the only one calling him out on this BS which is interesting
-RCE is trying to have it both ways with the following BS
>there is no scum faction
>vork is scum
-RCE is trying to intimidate/leash/subdue/reaction-test me with his

triggering

vig!shot threats and I see absolutely no reason why town!RCE would pull this shit

My watered-down version of events may have glossed over some of the more nuanced issues for the sake of transparency, but there you have it.

[Vorkuta]

My arguments/words seem to just drown there somewhere

I've rephrased my points and used different words to describe the same point like 50 times, yet you're the one displeased?
seems fair

Cyrus is cult
Drew is their recruiter
Hence why Cyrus is reacting so strange to that claim and is happy to die in the place of Drew

DREW:
-50%: genuine town who got a sucky bastard role which brings major town utility

/s

-50%: jester/3rd play

0.1% next level scum gambit with 20 layers of WIFOM

CYRUS:
-33%: town who seems to get caught up in the dumbest/weirdest of situations
-33%: the 1 and only cultist on D1 who'll be playing alone against the world if drew hangs today
-33%: idk I can't think of everything but there's probably another explanation for this as well