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[profii]

this will probably get me lynched but I think Cliff is town and was making a gamble. He looked like he somewhat was regretting his actions around the end f the day. If he was scum I would expect a bit more of happy tone when he lynched JJD but all I could see was regret.

But Billy says he got a fruit ?

[Carcalilly]

yay conf town squad gains a member

VOTE: cliff booth
Maybe I shouldn't have doubted myself...

[Cliff Booth]

Cliff mind explianing how you received fruit from jjd even though he was disloyal simple fruit vendor

I didnt. I totally misread the situation and jjd, lied about getting fruit because I thought he was pulling a 300 IQ play on me and probably made my dumbest fuck up to date. On any account :/
I deserve to get lynched here based on my behavior so I wont fight it but I'll share my perspective for those that want it.

I know there's some AtE there but oh well. I'll try to refrain from it in the future just wanted to get that off of my chest.

[Cliff Booth]

VOTE: Cliff

Which also asks the question how billy got fruit if cliff couldnt vend it. Although there is a small possibility its scum gambit with billy. Most likely scum has fruit vendor and that it simply isnt cliff that sent it

I did vend it. And I should eat rope before Billy 100% of the time.

[Cliff Booth]

VOTE: Cliff

I think scum having a fruit vendor is likely. I dont remember who brought up the possibility of town and scum having similar roles but if that's the case then we probably have a rolecop and town has a tracker/watcher.

Pretty sure I brought it up. But I was probably wrong. I think theres a pattern (definitely at least a one-off coincidence) but i dont think it's scum and toe. having similar roles anymore.

[Billy Pilgrim]

My current list for scum is cliff, garmr, kop and i think last oen is titus

Billy is very likely if Cliff is scum (likely).

Let's say Cliff is scum. Why does Billy!scum sacrifice himself and Cliff just to get JJD mislynched?

I'm not saying that I'm cleared, and me being involved in JJD's mislynch definitely doesn't look good for me, but why do two scum play such an obvious gambit to get one town lynched?

And if the theory is both me and Cliff scum together, and the theory was that it was Cliff who was the nea, then me volunteering to be the check doesn't even draw out the nea. So what exactly is my scum motivation in how any of my plays went down?

I got sucked into the JJD mislynch, Cliff either got fruit (which makes him a goon) and lied about sending me fruit (and since no one ccd that it means there must be a scum FV), or he lied about getting fruit which is either a nonsense play as town or he did as a scum or and he sent me the fruit to hook me into the mislynch. Why if I'm scum here do I so strongly commit myself to Cliff's gambit when the town JJD flip means Cliff is almost certainly the next lynch?

[Billy Pilgrim]

yay conf town squad gains a member

VOTE: cliff booth
Maybe I shouldn't have doubted myself...

Who became conf town?

[Cliff Booth]

I want to talk about the thing I lied about (okay the second thing I lied about other than saying i received fruit) but I think I still get lynched anyway and in that case I'm pretty sure it just helps scum have more time to plan their next move. so honestly if I'm gonna be lynched today just do it quickly.

I know beggars cant be choosers but I'd really rather not get everyone on a discussion about whether this is some wifom play or whatever because I honestly am a liability at this point.

[Cliff Booth]

The only other thing I can think to comment on right now:
Who received fruit last night? Claim it now or it doesn't mean anything later.

[profii]

hard claim no fruit for me.

[Billy Pilgrim]

I also didnt get fruit last night.

[profii]

I think we should also say that we should not lynch until we have been through where this fruit went.

[AaronFrost]

No fruit for me either.

PEDIT: Agreed

[bob3141]

Cliff if you are loyal fruit vendor explain why JJD didnt recieve any fruit.

Makes me think your hiding the fact your a mafia simple fruit vendor. As if teh reason you were role blocked n1 why wouldnt you be roleblocked n2 and n3. Clearly you weren't rb n2. But why would scum not rb you again when it was clear that you visiting billy would result in confirmed town. As thats what you heavily hinted to when you asked for vt.

Why a vt why not any role. Or infact just visit a townie and watch.

[bob3141]

Also what determined your choice for night 3. As i do find it quite odd.

[bob3141]

Cliff mind explianing how you received fruit from jjd even though he was disloyal simple fruit vendor

I didnt. I totally misread the situation and jjd, lied about getting fruit because I thought he was pulling a 300 IQ play on me and probably made my dumbest fuck up to date. On any account :/
I deserve to get lynched here based on my behavior so I wont fight it but I'll share my perspective for those that want it.

I know there's some AtE there but oh well. I'll try to refrain from it in the future just wanted to get that off of my chest.

If you are town why did you think it was a good idea as you claim to lie about receiving fruit. Surely if you were a town player you woudl ahve told teh truth. That as you now claim you didnt recieve any.

What good did you think it would do town.

[Billy Pilgrim]

UNVOTE: want to wait to see what went on with the fruit. Also, people should probably claim N1 fruit as well.

So to clarify for myself, I received fruit on N2 but no other times.

[Cliff Booth]

Cliff if you are loyal fruit vendor explain why JJD didnt recieve any fruit.

Makes me think your hiding the fact your a mafia simple fruit vendor. As if teh reason you were role blocked n1 why wouldnt you be roleblocked n2 and n3. Clearly you weren't rb n2. But why would scum not rb you again when it was clear that you visiting billy would result in confirmed town. As thats what you heavily hinted to when you asked for vt.

Why a vt why not any role. Or infact just visit a townie and watch.

Honestly the logic and thought progression in this post doesnt feel natural.
But I also have been town reading Bob for quite some time. Maybe all game. I dont think i really had an opinion until last phase though.

At the same time I have

spearheaded

3 mislynches this game (I mean seriously go back and look if you dont believe me). I'm a little confused why no one has pointed this out.

[Cliff Booth]

My point may not have been totally clear up there. I'm not confident one way or the other on anyone, specifically Bob, due to how bad my votes have been this game.

[bob3141]

Billy I to can confirm there is still a fruit vendor in the game. I just think its scum vendor fishing out who are teh vt so they can kill pr.

But with 4 pr dead. One mason and oen IC known. Plus back up tracker and remain mason alive. Scum prob already know who teh pr are anyway

[profii]

Bob - fruit or no?

[bob3141]

My point may not have been totally clear up there. I'm not confident one way or the other on anyone, specifically Bob, due to how bad my votes have been this game.

If you are town why would you send fruit to me if you were town reading me

[bob3141]

Also what determined your choice for night 3. As i do find it quite odd.

already said so proffii

[davesaz]

No fruit here.

Happy that I didn’t need to use my crumbs/softs. Interested to know if anyone caught on or if you bought the whole inexperience challenged angle.

To be honest I can see Cliff being town who messed up but he has to go sooner or later. We get either scum or maybe another conf depending on flip. I don’t want to hurry in any case. At least wait for everyone to post meaningful stuff.

[bob3141]

I did get fruit but no doubt it was cliff scum partners. As there is fair few players that were better candiates for teh test than me

If players like kop who havnt realy posted much