Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[RadiantCowbells]

This is partner chat designed to reinforce the idea that I’m lynchable here which is very much only the case if you actually think RC’s play in any way comes from town here since he replaced in

what does this even mean: he's clearly lynchable: 3 slots are reasonably likely to end up voting him (me cirno suji)
this is the thing that republicans do where they think if they talk about stuff (like being obvtown) enough everyone will eventually believe it.

[Menalque]

Whats one of the primary goals for scum joining a losing gamestate? Create as much chaos as possible to try and reset the possible worlds available to them. The world we were in pre-rep was losing for scum!awoo and scum!pk because pk was prob getting lynched today or by day 7 and then joey and I were PoEing for the win. Creating this amount of chaos and the hyper posting related to it is an attempt to browbeat town into submission so that you just lynch me so it stops. All I’m doing here is defending myself, it’s entirely RC’s fault that the gamestate is now like this.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean you even said that you can't outpost RC and will accept your lynch for RC trade no?

that's not the point

they're not trying to win anymore i think they know that even if they flip me they're super obviously the team together

i think they just wanna get me before they go tbh

[RadiantCowbells]

Whats one of the primary goals for scum joining a losing gamestate? Create as much chaos as possible to try and reset the possible worlds available to them. The world we were in pre-rep was losing for scum!awoo and scum!pk because pk was prob getting lynched today or by day 7 and then joey and I were PoEing for the win. Creating this amount of chaos and the hyper posting related to it is an attempt to browbeat town into submission so that you just lynch me so it stops. All I’m doing here is defending myself, it’s entirely RC’s fault that the gamestate is now like this.

correct: it is entirely my fault that we have a chance of lynching actual scum now instead of going for lynchbait slots like GL and PK

[Menalque]

This is partner chat designed to reinforce the idea that I’m lynchable here which is very much only the case if you actually think RC’s play in any way comes from town here since he replaced in

what does this even mean: he's clearly lynchable: 3 slots are reasonably likely to end up voting him (me cirno suji)
this is the thing that republicans do where they think if they talk about stuff (like being obvtown) enough everyone will eventually believe it.

If you can’t see that RC is just trying to repurpose my own arguments when it suits him to do so I can’t help you

He has nothing original to say and he cannot scum hunt this game because he’s scum

[DrCirno]

wtf my slot was obvtown
So obvtown that I correctly read him with one fucking post

[Menalque]

Whats one of the primary goals for scum joining a losing gamestate? Create as much chaos as possible to try and reset the possible worlds available to them. The world we were in pre-rep was losing for scum!awoo and scum!pk because pk was prob getting lynched today or by day 7 and then joey and I were PoEing for the win. Creating this amount of chaos and the hyper posting related to it is an attempt to browbeat town into submission so that you just lynch me so it stops. All I’m doing here is defending myself, it’s entirely RC’s fault that the gamestate is now like this.

correct: it is entirely my fault that we have a chance of lynching actual scum now instead of going for lynchbait slots like GL and PK

Nope all you’re doing is trying to bully the thread into doing what you want by being intransigent and aggressive and hyper posting until people give up because the way can’t keep up with you so they just submit

[RadiantCowbells]

and again: all i had to do as scum
was lynch whichever of GL/Norway/whoever isn't my partner, with Joey even having agreed he'll vote pretty much whoever I vote
set up a rule of 3 that doesn't kill my buddy
then do this in lylo and kill you.

as i've pointed out before. and you've kept deflecting and making weird claims that mostly serve the purpose of trying to pocket joey, but the fact remains that from your point of view i could have lynched anyone and i went after you specifically

which i have no motivation to do as scum because the way i'm pushing you is going to get me an insane amount of flak "if" you flip town
but a ton of motivation as town who is unsure if i'll actually be able to get you lynched and who needs to rely on the fact that if you get me lynched you are going to die in the following odd phase

[RadiantCowbells]

Nope all you’re doing is trying to bully the thread into doing what you want by being intransigent and aggressive and hyper posting until people give up because the way can’t keep up with you so they just submit

oh look. you started losing and you started accusing me of bullying and shit again. because there's really no rational arguments that work for why i'm scum so you just have to be abusive and ate.

[RadiantCowbells]

If you can’t see that RC is just trying to repurpose my own arguments when it suits him to do so I can’t help you

He has nothing original to say and he cannot scum hunt this game because he’s scum

what does this even mean????
all that post was doing was pointing out that contrary to his claims there are several people lined up to vote him.

[Menalque]

You couldn’t have lynched joey and you can’t lynch me without having to fight for it

Maybe you can get the mislynch through, I’m genuinely curious

I think you’ve been obviously openwolfing but I have the advantage of knowing your push is scum motivated

based on the things you yourself have said about my scumgame i can easily mislynch you in lylo, since i'm clearly going after you either way the question isn't can i lynch you or not
it's do i go for your lynch in lylo (where I can say all this stuff and town will never have a chance to hold me responsible for it after if you flip town) or now (where town can hold me responsible if you flip town)
it's really simple.

For anyone interested this is RC trying to get the idea into your head that my posting quality is getting worse when it’s not

pretty sure everyone's gonna back me up that you're doing a worse and worse job and that you'd have been better off just stopping before you spewed your partner as well.

See the great irony is that even if you do succeed in mislynching me today you’ve actually obviously spewed cirno as your partner and have been doing so since your replace in

I’m just worried you’re going to try a bully people into submission again after you manage to mislynch me (if you do so) and then they’re not going to be willing to stick with it and actually get you lynched

[DrCirno]

Imaging being called bullying for pushing one's read.

Oh boo hoo Menalque is bullying me because he've been pushing me (not PK. Me.) for making a meme and throwing down three ?s

[RadiantCowbells]

See the great irony is that even if you do succeed in mislynching me today you’ve actually obviously spewed cirno as your partner and have been doing so since your replace in

I’m just worried you’re going to try a bully people into submission again after you manage to mislynch me (if you do so) and then they’re not going to be willing to stick with it and actually get you lynched

how does that work?

I've "obviously" spewed Cirno as my partner
I've set myself up to get speedlynched when you flip town by repeatedly asking to be burden of proficiencied on your flip

the game's over, no? you can just like selfvote or whatever and you win congratulations juiceboxes for everyone

[DrCirno]

Imagine*

[Menalque]

The problem is that this is indefinite. You’re going to keep spouting shit and I’m not going to just sit back and let you be the big swinging dick who shouts people down until he gets his own way.

I know exactly what you’re doing and it’s incredibly frustrating because engaging with you here just increases apathy and makes it closer and closer to 50/50 that people choose between us rather than lynching you while you’re open wolfing. But not engaging just let’s you hijack the thread and bully/cajole each individual person into voting with you

[Menalque]

Imaging being called bullying for pushing one's read.

Oh boo hoo Menalque is bullying me because he've been pushing me (not PK. Me.) for making a meme and throwing down three ?s

There are different ways of pushing ones read. I think RC’s approach is bullying — he shouts people down, tears them down, insists they follow him, is abusive and aggressive until they do what he wants.

If you don’t think it’s fair to call that a bullying playstyle, be my guest, I think it is fair.

[Menalque]

See the great irony is that even if you do succeed in mislynching me today you’ve actually obviously spewed cirno as your partner and have been doing so since your replace in

I’m just worried you’re going to try a bully people into submission again after you manage to mislynch me (if you do so) and then they’re not going to be willing to stick with it and actually get you lynched

how does that work?

I've "obviously" spewed Cirno as my partner
I've set myself up to get speedlynched when you flip town by repeatedly asking to be burden of proficiencied on your flip

the game's over, no? you can just like selfvote or whatever and you win congratulations juiceboxes for everyone

I think you’re trying to bait me into self voting like I did when I got emotionally worked up as town before and then planning to begin a campaign of trying to delegitimise my reads

[RadiantCowbells]

also note that Menalque is making 0 effort whatsoever to actually convince yall
in a world where he flips town
to actually lynch me the next day.

he hasn't said anything about that, and that should be his #1 priority given that he says he already has the solve.

all his arguments are about not lynching him, about lynching me first, about why I'm scum, etc. because there's no point trying to convince yall to vote me after his flip because his flip isn't town.
i on the other hand was always more focused on establishing the 1v1 and making sure that regardless of the outcome he ended up lynched. that's a town pov. his pov doesn't make sense as town in his situation.
he should be screaming to the hills to lynch me after he flips town, he should be doubling down on the burden of proficiency instead of HELPING ME MAKE EXCUSES FOR WHY HE FLIPS TOWN BY CITING OTHER GAMES.
if he was town he NEVER brings up a game that he perceives as me mislynching in another situation because I can use that as ammunition to defend myself after i mislynch him
but if he's trying to set up to argue that I was wrong on him later, bringing up a game where I mislynched a townie in a situation he claims is similar makes perfect sense

[RadiantCowbells]

I think you’re trying to bait me into self voting like I did when I got emotionally worked up as town before and then planning to begin a campaign of trying to delegitimise my reads

no you just don't flip town so you don't have any stake in influencing what happens after your "townflip"

[Menalque]

I don’t need to keep shouting it because either they will lynch you or they won’t

I’m worried that no one else is going to be willing to endure a 1v1 with you which means you’re winning by default unless you just get naked voted after my mislynch

[RadiantCowbells]

The problem is that this is indefinite. You’re going to keep spouting shit and I’m not going to just sit back and let you be the big swinging dick who shouts people down until he gets his own way.

I know exactly what you’re doing and it’s incredibly frustrating because engaging with you here just increases apathy and makes it closer and closer to 50/50 that people choose between us rather than lynching you while you’re open wolfing. But not engaging just let’s you hijack the thread and bully/cajole each individual person into voting with you

get over yourself, you're not as good at scum as you want to think that you are.

[DrCirno]

he shouts people down, tears them down, insists they follow him, is abusive and aggressive until they do what he wants.

So where have he shout people down and act abusive this game? Because I certainly don't see any. If anything he's being civil.
I've seen way too many people being at the end of RC's push accusing RC of "bullying" this and "abusive" that when all he did was pushing his reads.
I've even seen

scum

replace out (and replace back in lol) just because RC pushed the dude!
Tearing people's post down and insist that other follows him is like, how you push your reads.

Honestly people acting like wet noodles and all makes me want to support him even more.

[Menalque]

Again, that’s assuming I do get mislynched tho, and I’m still pretty optimistic that joey and GL can see how obvscum you are here

[RadiantCowbells]

1v1

"1v1"

meanwhile i've told literally everyone to lynch me if u flip town

[Menalque]

Cirno I already know that you’re going to justify and support everything that RC does here because you’re partners

I think it’s a shitty thing to do when you know that this is me coming at this honestly but whatcha gonna do