Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Wooper]

i remember how wholesome 2018 scum!skitter was
now she's a battle-worn town-slayin machine

[nomnomnom]

skitter30 42, 5

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[Wooper]

don't think scum!skit lets her buddy pick 4 ngl
this feels like such a dumb wifomtrap read but
: |

[nomnomnom]

what was the justification for her to pick high in that game? I'm lazy

[Wooper]

click the link

[Wooper]

i linked the post where she talks abt it

[nomnomnom]

Yeah okay I'm not getting into that draftnomics considering that scum!skitter would be extremely aware of this and it's basically wifom so yeah.

[Wooper]

yeah!!

i'm lolclearing myself on a policy basis given i would rather die than let a teammate pick 4 or 6

[Luca Blight]

I decided that I want to look at everyone's iso to catch up. Dont know how much I'm gonna get to immediately but hopefully in the next 24 hours I will have re-read. I'm gonna go in ascending post order.

PMysterious- 3 posts. Really only one post of content where he voted rb. And the given reason was that he felt that rb's reason that Kerset had changed playstyles was NAI.

This slot is 36 hours away from prod range again, and the last time they got prodded, they posted to let us know they'd catchup, then waited 24 hours to give us that one post.

This slot is bad, but we should be able to deal with this through prs in some way.

Possibly a townie point or two PM’s way?

[Luca Blight]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Flubs

I think the time has come to put this slot in the spotlight. He started in a lively fashion but has notocably faded into the background since his change in playstyle was highlighted/suspected. He is currently lurking, and I don’t believe him and Billy interacted or even mentioned each other at all on D1.

[Wooper]

Possibly a townie point or two PM’s way?

"this slot is prolly scum but let's not pressure it"
unfortunately not sure that's something billy wouldn't think to post as pmys' buddy :/

flubs wagon is fine

[Luca Blight]

Just a few posts after I vote Billy to make him joint leading wagon, Flubs comes in and votes Kerset to make her the leading wagon again. Then the only time he mentions Billy all of D1 is to say he can’t find any obvious scum points in his iso. This is a very subtle but at the same time forceful form of defence.

VOTE: kerset

Iso dive on billy doesn't give any obvious scum points

[Luca Blight]

Possibly a townie point or two PM’s way?

"this slot is prolly scum but let's not pressure it"
unfortunately not sure that's something billy wouldn't think to post as pmys' buddy :/

flubs wagon is fine

I was more thinking of the ‘pr’s can sort him’ line - would Billy want to put his partner’s name
in the thoughts of the pr’s?

It’s not a foolproof theory, but it’s something maybe.

[Sirfetchd]

Yo duck. I have meta from a marketplace game showing scum riding picking the same number to endgame. I think everything is NAI unless there is single person meta reasons to read in to it.

I did mention a soft draft PICKs reason to suss one of rb or flubb, and rb flipping cop puts that solely on flubb. That said, I remember not reading Billy, so I think it's a little bit NAI on the didn't mention X. Flubb can be scum for other reasons like the momentum vote and draft picks. I know I tend to ignore half the list in any game over 11-12 players until I settle in.

I have a large amount of town reads which makes me think that probably a better route to go down. People I have not paid attention to that are alive are Flubb, Aaron, Kerset, and Suji. So if I can be fucked, I'll read them maybe.

[Wooper]

I tend to put draftreads on the back burner and all good townies should but that doesn't stop me from demanding I'm metacleared based entirely on draft picks

[Kerset]

Wooper did you change your opinion about s_s?

[Wooper]

no

[skitter30]

Skitter why do you dislike billy-xaya interaction?

Xayah's initial vote on billy was awful, and i didnt like her push there

I'm not sure, though, that billy's vote on her was a partner vote; billy's side of it doesnt feel svs + she was a cw to him, which makes me think she might be town

One thing i'm kinda wondering about is why rb died. Iirc one of his major suspicions was xayah and he was angling p hard to go after her

[skitter30]

Skiter you should know this isn't my scumgame lol

I'm going to iso Wooper and Suji right now and see what I have.

This doesnt feel like ur towngame either

You feel v ... stilted and like ~pre-meditated~ almost? Like your posts dont feel natural, they feel constructed and forced

[Luca Blight]

I’m pretty sure rb suspected Flubs as well.

[skitter30]

I've read some of his games, he's usually a lot more analytic of situations.

Um did you see how he played in c++ or ...

This doesnt accurately represent his towngame currently i think

(I also doubt in his ability to be obvtown in lategame either but)

[skitter30]

I’m pretty sure rb suspected Flubs as well.

Ya it's kinda weird that scum went for rn instead of flub here

I think i'm interested in flub and nom today

[skitter30]

Survivalism is NAI btw.

I think I'll just VOTE: Wooper. He feels extremely dodgy and just going through the motions to me. If you have a towncase

Strongly disagree with all of this and i dont understand how this is a reason for scum!tw given recent context

[skitter30]

i remember how wholesome 2018 scum!skitter was
now she's a battle-worn town-slayin machine

I almost think i'm better at scum than town these days, depending on motivation

[skitter30]

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