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Post Post #3200 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:46 pm

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In post 3198, Gentleman 3 wrote:I'm here.
Hows your day?
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Post Post #3201 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:46 pm

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No intentions on it.

It's very important to me that we flip at least one scum in a relevant position before intermission.
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Post Post #3202 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:46 pm

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In post 3199, Lady 3 wrote:u should vote l5/g8
I'd like to see a votecount first.
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Post Post #3203 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:46 pm

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In post 3200, Gentleman 5 wrote:Hows your day?
Reading this game definitely didn't make it better, I'll tell you that.
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Post Post #3204 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:47 pm

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In post 3121, Gentleman 4 wrote:VOTE: Gentleman 8

I believe that's five votes, making this L-4. That's an estimation, though. Right now I have Lady 2, 3, and 8 voting for this pair as well as Gentlemen 4 and 5. I might be wrong on this count.
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Post Post #3205 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:47 pm

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lady 8 unvoted
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Post Post #3206 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:48 pm

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Like pre-intermission isn't when you shitlynch bait slots. That's what you do immediately post intermission. Pre-intermission is when you look for meaningful and informative flips and ideally hit midrange scum.
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Post Post #3207 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:48 pm

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I'll have to refresh myself with everything that went on since I last posted, but what I remember is a lot of unnecessary insults and a LOT of premature associatives.
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Post Post #3208 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:48 pm

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In post 3206, Gentleman 6 wrote:Like pre-intermission isn't when you shitlynch bait slots. That's what you do immediately post intermission. Pre-intermission is when you look for meaningful and informative flips and ideally hit midrange scum.
Really? Isn't the point to make scum make the intermission kill with as little info as possible, and thus shouldn't you eliminate the slots that everyone knows are going to die anyway?
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Post Post #3209 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:49 pm

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In post 3206, Gentleman 6 wrote:Like pre-intermission isn't when you shitlynch bait slots. That's what you do immediately post intermission. Pre-intermission is when you look for meaningful and informative flips and ideally hit midrange scum.
I can't lynch G3-L6 because you say that's your TvT pair.
I can't lynch L8/G6 because I'm throwing since its TvS pair.
I can't lynch G8/L5 because they are lynchbait.
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Post Post #3210 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:50 pm

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Actually trying to conceal information from scum is almost universally a complete waste of time. It's not hard for scum to figure out which pairings are the actual late game TvT threats.
I can't lynch G3-L6 because you say that's your TvT pair.
I can't lynch L8/G6 because I'm throwing since its TvS pair.
I can't lynch G8/L5 because they are lynchbait.
There is at most 1 scum in all of these 6 slots.

Look for the other 2.
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Post Post #3211 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:50 pm

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Actually trying to conceal information from scum is almost universally a complete waste of time. It's not hard for scum to figure out which pairings are the actual late game TvT threats.
I can't lynch G3-L6 because you say that's your TvT pair.
I can't lynch L8/G6 because I'm throwing since its TvS pair.
I can't lynch G8/L5 because they are lynchbait.
There is at most 1 scum in all of these 6 slots.

Look for the other 2.
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Post Post #3212 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:51 pm

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I'm not ultra invested in defending G8/L5

But I'm not going to lynch them if we're just going to make another bad lynch after

If lynching G8/L5 leads to people being willing to actually play the game then I'll do it.
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Post Post #3213 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:51 pm

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I think there are at least 2 scum in those 6 slots.

Can I lynch L7/G7?
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Post Post #3214 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:52 pm

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Alright here's the couples I'm considering for today in no particular order:

Lady 5 and Gentleman 8:
Spoiler: I've already covered this, and I think it's a dead horse now, but here's my argument in case you missed it:
In post 3107, Gentleman 4 wrote:I still support a Lady 5 and Gentleman 8 lynch, because it will help me sort Lady 2 and Gentleman 3, it will remove a lot of the spam from the thread, I doubt they will make it much later anyways, neither of them will surprise me with a scum flip, and I think we can get enough agreement on it to get two lynches before intermission.

One point I specifically want to bring up about this pairing is this: a lot of people are having difficulty with too many town reads - Lady 4's reads list included not enough scum and Gentleman 6 recently expressed doubt in several of his scum reads, and this is often indicative of scum being in the lurker pile -> Gentleman 8.


Gentleman 5 and Lady 4: The case against Gentleman 5 is debatable. I've liked what he brought to the table in the past, but Gentleman 1 made a solid point about his Lady 2 "joke." I'm really not certain about this pair, I'd really rather have more time to sort through this, because I've been very much on the fence about both these player's alignments. I think based on Gentleman 5's "joke," flipping this pair might be indicative of Lady 2 scum.

Gentleman 3 and Lady 6: Lady 6 has said very convenient things at convenient times before, and several of her more interesting posts have been noted several times by other players. I will go through these when I get the chance, but I think she's slid significantly under the radar due to her absence. There have been a couple things she's done that have barely any game relevancy but can be indicative of her being town on her main account, though, so this is something to keep in consideration. I have never been a fan of Gentleman 3's posting, it all looks particularly fake and his activity has dropped conveniently after finding a partner - right around the same time everyone else was looking at Gentleman 5 and Lady 4.

Gentleman 1 and Lady 2: Not really a pairing I was considering at the beginning of the day, I like Gentleman 1 for the most part, but Lady 2's flip could help determine the alignment of several other players here and I've been less and less convinced by her posting recently.
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Post Post #3215 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:52 pm

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In post 3213, Lady 3 wrote:I think there are at least 2 scum in those 6 slots.

Can I lynch L7/G7?
There's not.
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Post Post #3216 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:53 pm

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Okay what slots am I not allowed to lynch and why
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Post Post #3217 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:53 pm

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In post 3214, Gentleman 4 wrote:I have never been a fan of Gentleman 3's posting, it all looks particularly fake and his activity has dropped conveniently after finding a partner - right around the same time everyone else was looking at Gentleman 5 and Lady 4.
So?
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Post Post #3218 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:54 pm

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Let's see

G6/L8 is an endgame TvS at worst pairing
G2/L9 is an endgame TvS at worst pairing
G3/L6 is an endgame TvT pairing
G7/L7 is an endgame TvT pairing

What's left?

L4/G5
G1/L2
G4/L3
G8/L5
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Post Post #3219 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:55 pm

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I'm a TvS at worst pairing!

I think L4/G5 is a TvS at worst pairing as well.
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Post Post #3220 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:56 pm

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Not as confident in yall as I am in myself or the IC for obvious reasons?
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Post Post #3221 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:57 pm

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In post 3211, Gentleman 6 wrote:Actually trying to conceal information from scum is almost universally a complete waste of time. It's not hard for scum to figure out which pairings are the actual late game TvT threats.
I can't lynch G3-L6 because you say that's your TvT pair.
I can't lynch L8/G6 because I'm throwing since its TvS pair.
I can't lynch G8/L5 because they are lynchbait.
There is at most 1 scum in all of these 6 slots.

Look for the other 2.
In post 3218, Gentleman 6 wrote:Let's see

G6/L8 is an endgame TvS at worst pairing
G2/L9 is an endgame TvS at worst pairing
G3/L6 is an endgame TvT pairing
G7/L7 is an endgame TvT pairing

What's left?

L4/G5
G1/L2
G4/L3
G8/L5
The lists don't match.
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Post Post #3222 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:58 pm

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In post 3183, Gentleman 6 wrote:I'm not going to endgame
In post 3218, Gentleman 6 wrote:G6/L8 is an endgame TvS at worst pairing
They don't match
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Post Post #3223 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:00 pm

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In post 3218, Gentleman 6 wrote:Let's see

G6/L8 is an endgame TvS at worst pairing
G2/L9 is an endgame TvS at worst pairing
G3/L6 is an endgame TvT pairing
G7/L7 is an endgame TvT pairing

What's left?

L4/G5
G1/L2
G4/L3
G8/L5
Put yourself on the bottom list you coward
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Post Post #3224 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:02 pm

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In post 3222, Gentleman 4 wrote:
In post 3183, Gentleman 6 wrote:I'm not going to endgame
In post 3218, Gentleman 6 wrote:G6/L8 is an endgame TvS at worst pairing
They don't match
I'm not going to endgame, as in final pair remaining.

I'm being kept around to serve as a TvS pair.
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