Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)


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Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:51 pm

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also think skitter letting that slide but not picking up on the soft is likely an anti-tpr hunting tell btw town equity is up
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Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:56 pm

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I'm really bad at picking up on crumbs and PR softs.
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Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:56 pm

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me too.
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Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:57 pm

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I don't need to claim. I can probably parse everything myself but it will depend a lot on today's phase.

I think if we get stuck we can mass claim.

Talk me through nom flip stuffs.
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Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:58 pm

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we probably don't need massclaim ya but a doc/rb/jk should be crumbing saves or guilties
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Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:58 pm

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don't have time yet, needed to be here but i need to work, more
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Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:00 pm

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haha same
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Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:05 pm

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i'd say she has a decent chance of being right on a scumread given she reengaged with the game via scumreading, +equity to {flubz,aaron} but nothing i want to lean into super heavily

i'd say she has a decent chance of being right on a scumread given she reengaged with the game via scumreading, +equity to {flubz,aaron} but nothing i want to lean into super heavily

flipped:
In post 2001, TheWizard wrote:
nomnomnom
(7):
AaronFrost, skitter30, Flubbernugget, Kerset, Luca Blight, Sujimichi, Wooper
AaronFrost (3):
Something_Smart,
Xayah
, Sirfetchd
Xayah
(1):
nomnomnom


Not Voting (1):
Adorable

colouring luca for strong unitownread:
i'd say she has a decent chance of being right on a scumread given she reengaged with the game via scumreading, +equity to {flubz,aaron} but nothing i want to lean into super heavily
In post 2001, TheWizard wrote:
nomnomnom
(7):
AaronFrost, skitter30, Flubbernugget, Kerset,
Luca Blight
, Sujimichi, Wooper
AaronFrost (3):
Something_Smart,
Xayah
, Sirfetchd
Xayah
(1):
nomnomnom


Not Voting (1):
Adorable
via basic reads noms wagon looks good but given greens (and the fact i fairly strongly townread otherduck) we probably need to consider the possibility that the wagon is filthy
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Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:05 pm

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think aaron should be fullclaiming today - i want mr. smarties to weigh in on this
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Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:16 pm

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I think Aaron should be dying today so like objectively I agree.
Shame on a martyr claiming friends
From either perspective of &
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Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:17 pm

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*thumbsup* me too!

aaron please fullclaim
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Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:19 pm

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So wooper you were able to kill nom3, even if she wouldn't end up being lynched. What was all of that for?
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Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:20 pm

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In post 1568, AaronFrost wrote:
U
nderstandable criticism.
B
eing completely honest, there were aspects of this setup that confused me at first such as the draft pick.
A
nd I did acknowledge that Billy was unlikely to be a PR but there was still a small chance that he could've gotten one.
C
alling attention to my partner's potential role like that is something I would never do as scum.
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Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:21 pm

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I'm the universal backup turned town cop. Unfortunately I investigated Xayah last night and well.
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Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:21 pm

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In post 2001, TheWizard wrote:
nomnomnom
(7):
AaronFrost, skitter30, Flubbernugget, Kerset,
Luca Blight
, Sujimichi,
Wooper

AaronFrost (3):
Something_Smart,
Xayah
,
Sirfetchd

Xayah
(1):
nomnomnom


Not Voting (1):
Adorable

pedit:
@kerset
AARON
was the counterwagon, not xayah
xayah is a pain in the ass to lynch
aaron was heavily softing tpr
noms was claimed vt and an easy lynch to get thru + wasn't really enjoying the game much and wasn't really doing much towny until in an extremely survivalistic position which made her hard to read

so many reasons why i did what i did, zero ragrets
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Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:21 pm

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*sobs quietly*
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Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:22 pm

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can you link me to some of your scumgames pls aaron?
i suddenly don't value my job like AT ALL
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Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:23 pm

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In hindsight I probably should've seen the vig kill on Xayah coming.
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Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:23 pm

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Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:24 pm

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I don't wanna be the guy who uses self-meta as a defense, but in that game I was much more reserved and hesitant to push anyone so make of it what you will.
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Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:26 pm

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The issue with UB is that scum are forced in to taking the useless cop bc it's a scum claim otherwise bc role cop is a trash role in this setup when you have a draft order and can generally guess who has what.
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Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:26 pm

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In post 2069, AaronFrost wrote:I don't wanna be the guy who uses self-meta as a defense, but in that game I was much more reserved and hesitant to push anyone so make of it what you will.
One game does not a meta make.
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Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:27 pm

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the decision to play hard/get better at scum comes from many places; i don't tend to use skill/engagement level as a reliable meta tell because doing so has a tendency to pass scum free wins

i was looking for another tell there.

at a meta level i'm leaning town on that claim
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Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 2070, Sirfetchd wrote:The issue with UB is that scum are forced in to taking the useless cop bc it's a scum claim otherwise bc role cop is a trash role in this setup when you have a draft order and can generally guess who has what.
you think that's the case in this setup? with unibackup/rolecop+override?
dwell on this more and lmk what you think
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Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 2071, Sirfetchd wrote:
In post 2069, AaronFrost wrote:I don't wanna be the guy who uses self-meta as a defense, but in that game I was much more reserved and hesitant to push anyone so make of it what you will.
One game does not a meta make.
Yeah I know that's why I don't like using meta as a defense and truthfully if I were to roll scum in a game again there are a lot of things I'd do differently.
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