Micro 900: Autumnal Mafia (Game Complete)

[Luca Blight]

My suspicion wasn’t raised there in particular, I was talking generally. I mentioned earlier about how you and Icon seeming so relaxed was making me paranoid, but I’m feeling a lot better about you now. At work atm but can elaborate later if you want.

[Datisi]

Ah, it was today as in D3, not as in "the last 24h"?

I don't know. I feel like there is an answer sitting right in front of me and I can't see it.

[Datisi]

Ok I just had a crybaby vent post about this LyLo typed up but I deleted it.

[Wickedestjr]

Ico, couple things:

why should I be townreading you?
have you ever seen scum refrain from quick hammering like this?

And I’m not voting for Luca today. Maybe tomorrow but not today. If you’re town, then you should vote Datisi.

[Iconeum]

Please don't be lazy like this, wicked. Ur the conftown here. Read my ISO. Read Luca ISO. Do research. Why am I town? Because of how I've played this entire friggin game.

I've talked and repeated and repeated my thoughts about the quickhammer.

Why are you pushing me to vote Datisi? How is that in any shape way or form beneficial for you?

[Iconeum]

It's really hard to believe you guys are towreading what is clearly a pre-determined read coming into today, vs being all over the place like I was.

[Iconeum]

@Ico

I'm leaning towards voting for you tomorrow night. Let's say you have roughly 24 hours to convince me otherwise. Unfortunately, we've never really been online together at all this game. But here are some things that I would like you to talk about please:

1. Why should I be townreading you? And why should I be scum reading Datisi? Note that I am fully convinced you are not both town.

2. How likely is it that the scum team is Luca/emps? Why wouldn't they hammer you and how could the setup just be FN + back-up tracker?

3. If you were scum, how likely is it that you would kill alimdia? On a similar note, how likely is that you would keep me alive as FN?

And I think you should be voting for Datisi right now.

I'm not gonna try and sell you a scum!datisi read. I don't have one. If there's a single townread left standing this game for me, it's datisi. Does an emps/Luca team make perfect sense? No. Does FN+backup tracker make a ton of sense? No. But that doesn't rule it out.
I've been over the hammer thing several times already, my point hasn't changed. I don't see why luca/emps HAVE to organize a quickhammer here because of the inherent risk. Risk the entire game now, while having 2 phases left to try and win? Nah.

Scum!Ico gets an FN message and insta defends you on D2. I could easily just *not* say anything about you at all, and NK you N2. But I defended you. And then going into Lylo scum!Ico has multiple stuff to worry about:

-FN!Wicked.

CONFIRMED

unlyncheable. Scum!Ico can't do jack shit about this, because someone else will have a result as well. Best scum!Ico can hope for is some town credit for 'defending' you, but we both know that isn't really true.
-Tracker!Luca. Will have a claim, probably results varrying from semi-clears to hard guilty. In a setup with backup tracker flipped, this is unlyncheable barring counterclaim.
-Power Role feelings!alimdia. Felt like a power role. Possibly tracker if Luca wasn't. Possibly something else. Who knows at that time. In all other circumstances the PERFECT mislynch for a scum!Ico.
-Towncore!Datisi. Up until today probably the strongest townread player in the game. Unlikely to be the lynch.
-Lurker!emps. Probably the only viable mislynch. No scumteam would lynch this slot.

You decide yourself, what you think I would pick or wouldn't pick.

The only logical lynch for me today is Luca, and work from there.

VOTE: Luca

You asked me a ton of questions previously, I responded already. If you wanna figure out my allignment at least discuss it.

[Luca Blight]

Pre-determined read? That sounds like your emps read to me.

And your read on me makes no sense. You’ve gone from thinking I might be Town to saying I’m confscum based on what exactly?

And your play on this day doesn’t align with your play for the first two days or your previous town meta. You’re deliberately trying to be ‘all over the place’ and using it as a reason to be townread, and you’ve told emps to do nothing so he looks like a disinterested townie, but none of it feels real or makes sense at all.

[Wickedestjr]

I read that post already, Ico. I’m caught up.

And don’t call me lazy. I have taken the time to read through your iso. And I’ve taken the time to read through Datisi’s iso. I am basically certain that this isn’t Luca/emps so that means one of you/Datisi has to be scum and, even as townish as you’ve been, you haven’t looked as townish as her. How can I justify voting for Datisi when even her 1v1 opponent can’t do it?

And you didn’t answer either of those follow up questions.

Why should I be townreading you? You know your meta and your play in this game better than everyone else. If you’re town, you should be aware of some specific things you are doing here that you wouldn’t be doing as scum.

And you never answered if you’ve seen scum refrain from quickhammering like this. That should be an easy question to answer. If you haven’t seen that before, then it makes it especially difficult for me to believe that you genuinely think Datisi is town.

I’m encouraging you to vote Datisi because, on the off chance I change my mind and decide that you’re town, I would want to lynch her instead so I would like you to put your vote on her if you’re town. If you’re scum, then by all means keep voting Luca.

[Luca Blight]

It's really hard to believe you guys are towreading what is clearly a pre-determined read coming into today,

vs being all over the place like I was

.

I just want to highlight this bit as it’s hilarious.

‘Hey, didn’t you notice how all over the place I was? Why aren’t you townreading me for it?’

Maybe if you made it look remotely convincing you wouldn’t have had to beg for the towncred.

[Wickedestjr]

If Luca and emps are scum, then they deserve to win already. I don’t want to win for something as simple as them not being able to coordinate a quickhammer

[Luca Blight]

Ah, it was today as in D3, not as in "the last 24h"?

I don't know. I feel like there is an answer sitting right in front of me and I can't see it.

Ok I just had a crybaby vent post about this LyLo typed up but I deleted it.

I didn’t realise you were so confused about things.

Icon/emps makes perfect sense to me. Do you not feel the same?

[Datisi]

I've said before I'm not ready to lockscum emps. What's with the condescending attitude?

[Luca Blight]

I don’t have a condescending attitude, I genuinely didn’t realise you felt like that.

[Datisi]

Right. Mate, I've had my reads flip the opposite of what I was expecting time and time again this game. Fuck, I came into the night calling an alimdia/Wicked team. I can't yet feel confident about this solve.

[Luca Blight]

Fair enough, I don’t expect you to be 100% on the solve right now. I thought for a minute that you weren’t sure about Icon which I didn’t get.

[Datisi]

I'm not "sure". I believe based on what we've seen that he's the correct lynch for today and my vote is staying there. But until emps gets his ass in here and writes "no hammer" or until the mod flips him I'm not gonna be "sure".

[Luca Blight]

I guess the reason your comments caught my attention is because I feel quite opposite - it’s rare I feel so confident of the scum team in a 3v2 LYLO. It’s hard to put a percentage on feelings, but I’d say I’m more than 90% sure the scumteam is emps/Icon.

I from time to time get a tingle of paranoia that it could be you/Icon, because he’s almost looking too scummy here like something is off, but I really can’t see emps’ play coming from town either. It feels like he’s deliberately lying low, as if that were part of the plan.

[Plum]

Votecount 3.5

Iconeum

- 2 (Datisi, Luca Blight)

Luca Blight

- 1 (Iconeum)

Not Voting

- 2 (emps, Wickedestjr)

With 5 alive it takes 3 votes to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-28 12:00:00)

[Datisi]

Don't get me wrong - if you were to put a gun to my head, I'd blurt out emps/Icon.

[emps]

why tf is ico voting luca

[emps]

i really dont see town!ico playing like this tbh

intent to hammer in like 10 hrs or so

i dont trust myself to like wake up tmrw then just have my first thought be "i should hammer ico now" so hopefully i remember sometime in the evening lol

[Datisi]

I didn't know I could at the same time feel both "oh thank fuck Icon is scum" and "oh god no Icon is scum" so strongly

But I do

[Datisi]

Oh yeah friendly reminder whatever that emps """protects""" Wicked tyty

[Wickedestjr]

Cool so this means Ico is scum unless the team is Datisi/Luca.

I’m probably going to vote Ico soon if emps doesn’t beat me to it. Just want to check a couple things first.