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Newbie 1972 | Game Over

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:23 am

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WELCOME TO NEWBIE 1972

mod: Karnage

backup-mod: skitter30

Player List
  • Alexcellent
    Thomth

  • geraintm
    *
  • LoserdudeOG*

  • Uncrowned

  • Zoomie8432*
    faüstiv
    *
  • Flavor Leaf
    Arkias
    *
  • the worst
    (SE)
  • Creature
    ** (SE)
  • NaCl
    (SE)
* indicates a prod

Spoilers
Spoiler: living
  • Alexcellent
  • LoserdudeOG
  • Creature (SE)
  • NaCl (SE)

Spoiler: dead
  • geraintm
    Vanilla Townie
    Lynched Day 1
  • the worst (SE)
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    Killed Night 1
  • Zoomie8432
    Mafia Rolecop
    Lynched Day 2
  • Uncrowned
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    Killed Night 2
  • Flavor Leaf
    Mafia Goon
    Concedes Day 3

Table of Contents
  • Rules
  • Setup
  • Tips
  • Replacements:
    • 304 Zoomie8432 replaces faüstiv
      403 Alexcellent replaces Thomth
      542 Flavor Lead replaces Arkias
  • Major Events:
    • 5 Start Day 1
      802 Day 1 Lynch
      804 Start Day 2
      939 Day 2 Lynch
      941 Start Day 3
      951 Endgame
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:24 am

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RULES


Basics
  • Day 1: up to 10 days, Day 2+ up to 7-days, Night: 48 hours.
  • Majority lynches
  • 36 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement
  • Bah posts allowed (limit: 1, free of game related content)
  • Don’t be a dick

General
  • Keep your interactions with other players respectful and follow all site Forum Rules and Guidelines.
  • You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
  • You may not directly quote any private communications (such as role PMs) in this thread.
  • Do not try to obscure or hide any text in your post. This includes, but is not limited to: invisible text, tiny text, encrypted text, and text hidden within tags. Breadcrumbing is okay.
  • Provable randomness is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
  • Play to your win condition. Claiming scum by yourself is fine (though not advised). Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
  • This
    is my color. Don't use it in a manner intended to impersonate the mod.
  • If you need to ask me something, bold it to make sure I don't miss it.

Votes, Lynches, and Death
  • Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Karnage or
    Vote: Karnage
    . Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. Type [
    v]Karnage[
    /v] to vote and [
    uv]Karnage[
    /uv] to unvote.
  • You may use abbreviations of usernames when you vote for someone so long as it is clear who the person in question is.
  • A lynch will occur when a simple majority is reached. If deadline is reached without a simple majority, a no lynch occurs.
  • All players, including the one who was lynched, may continue to post during the twilight phase.
  • Once I have posted your death scene, you may not post (a single "bah" post is allowed but may not contain game related content).

Deadlines and Activity
  • You have about 48 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM; if you do not, you will be replaced. The game will start once 7/9 players confirm. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
  • Day 1 lasts 10 days and other days last 7 days. Extensions to any deadline may be granted at the mod’s discretion.
  • Every game night will have a deadline of 48 hours for night action submission. You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). Any actions not submitted by the deadline will be forfeited. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
  • You will receive a prod if you do not post for 36 hours, at which point you will have 24 hours to post in the thread. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night. A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer.
  • If a player receives more than three prods in one game day, he or she may be replaced. I may also replace players at my own discretion.
  • If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 36-hour period please post a notice to that effect in the thread. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 60 hours. Players with extended V/LA may be replaced.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:25 am

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Setup Info

Newbie Setup
Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.


Spoiler: Full Setups
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5


Mods should use the sample role PMs below.


Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:41 am

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]
Introduction and Tips


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity


Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in Plotinus' original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta


Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, L-x, and Hammers

L-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from a lynch. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at L-1 (1 vote away from a lynch) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that players lynch. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to lynch (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see L-2 and L-3 (2 votes away from a lynch and 3 votes away from a lynch, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being lynched, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at L-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting lynched, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counter claiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get lynched for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

LyLo

LyLo is the shortened representation of “lynch or lose.” LyLo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to lynch (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:17 am

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Pre-Game
Role PMs have been sent out. The game will begin when 7/9 players confirm
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:25 am

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Day 1 Begins
8 out of 9 players have confirmed.


faüstiv has (expired on 2019-12-07 13:22:46) to confirm or be replaced.

Vote Count 1.0
Not voting (9) ~
Thomth, geraintm, LoserdudeOG, Uncrowned, faüstiv, Arkias, the worst, Creature, NaCl

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch


Deadline: (expired on 2019-12-15 18:22:46)


mod notes: none
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:41 am

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Hello all.
This is my 1st game in many years, so please be gentle

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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:54 am

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I don't speak a word of english.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:04 pm

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I am just kidding how are you?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 7, Thomth wrote:I don't speak a word of english.
Excellent, I've always wanted to play the Dogg's Hamlet themed game of mafia
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:20 pm

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VOTE: NaCL since I am a salty bitch.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:27 pm

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Sup Arkais, sorry u got NKed last time :’(
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:58 pm

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VOTE: NaCl because i'm a spicy bitch.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:43 pm

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VOTE: the worst because it’s in the name
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:50 pm

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VOTE: The Worst

Bc you know I had to do it to you
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:14 pm

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Do you enjoy my towngame, Uncr?
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:34 pm

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I think so.

Are you gonna show me your scumgame this time?
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:37 pm

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'fraid not.

More importantly: assuming you don't lynch yourself you have a 75% chance of mislynching. That in mind, your rvs vote is more likely to be on town than scum by a decent margin.

So I can't help but wonder why you decided to join an rvs wagon on me?
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:45 pm

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Mm, interesting.

I like voting for people who already have a vote on them.

Why'd you join NaCLs RVS wagon?
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:37 pm

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Because I like joining rvs wagons and there was only one rvs vote so far. Had a quick glance at the list and I wasn't ~inspired~ to start my own :P

Let me spin it differently: when you saw NaCl on 2 votes and me on 1, what inspired you to vote me? Evening out wagons? Would you prefer to vote me than NaCl?
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:40 pm

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Yep, wanted to even out wagons,

The more slots we hit, the more likely we are to find something.

At the very least, this is generating some form of discussion, so I'm already glad I went down this route instead of jumping on NaCl.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:42 pm

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Have you heard the theory that being the third vote on a wagon in a micro is scum indicative?
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:44 pm

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I haven't heard that specific theory but I've seen the one about scum preferring to sneak into the middle of the wagon.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:45 pm

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VOTE: uncrowned not random
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:47 pm

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Explain.
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