Mainstream Mafia II: D&D Edition [FIN]

[gobbledygook]

https://pathfinder.fandom.com/wiki/Xanesha - this is Korina’s flavor role. If you look in the N1 flavor you will see mention of snakes. The kill on the Orc (Formerfish) seems to be down by an Aasimir woman.


https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Lyrie_Akenja - this is titus flavor name

According to the actual DND game, Titus’s flavor name (Akenja) was recruited by an Aasimir woman. Specifically, she was recruited by this woman. https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Nualia_Tobyn

Since we know an Aasimir woman is related to a scum role (Akenja) it is likely they are a flavor name for a scum in this game. Additionally, since we know from N1 kill flavor that an Aasimir woman killed an Orc, it is very likely Nualia. So, putting it all together, even though Korina is flipped scum and on that list, according to the N1 flavor, he did not kill the Orc. So it does not matter if Korina was on that list. If we kill Nualia with a lynch, the others on that list are confirmed to have not killed Formerfish. They could still be scum independent of these facts.

[gobbledygook]

Wooper is literally refusing to do anything and even without this list it is scummy.

[EspressoPatronum]

yeah the mechanical stuff is boring

i don't wanna solve mafia mechanically, tbh. if i wanted to do that i'd just go do logic puzzles all day

I love logic puzzles. That's probably why I've been enjoying this mafia game more than others, haha.

If it weren't for the possibility of people lying and spreading misinformation, we'd probably be able to solve this in a few days.

But alas, it'll take a while longer.

[Miss Lane]

EP's argument on lynching Wooper is disgusting and repulsive.

If you like the case against Zora, you should like the case against Wooper.

I have changed my mind that Wooper is the better of the two today. My posts should make that fairly clear.

I don't like your case against Zora, because you don't seem to have one.

I do like my case against Zora, and I don't see the reason why liking my case against Zora means that I like any case against Wooper, would you like to explain?

[gobbledygook]

At this point, Wooper, you saying you don’t understand the dichotomy is on you. I have explained why. Ep has explained why. CEO’s has explained why. Full stop.

If you don’t want to claim so we can find some flavor bits to confirm your action and maybe not lynch you, that’s on you.

You digging your head into the sand is on YOU.

[pisskop]

Wooper is literally refusing to do anything and even without this list it is scummy.

ugh, you just got done saying that this list didnt prove or disprove anything, and yet youre clinging to it.

[Wooper]

Look I'm fine if you guys want to flavour and mech game. I don't see a useful way to spend my time rn so I intend to go back to waiting this out. If you're happy to explain stuff to me I'm happy to offer my opinion on it - if you lynch me today you'll be dissatisfied and probably lynch somewhere in Zor/UT too. Coincidentally the thing you're presenting as a mechanical pentochomy is no longer a mechanical pentochomy.. Outside of that I have very little interest in this dialogue.

Just please don't come asking me to have opinions on stuff that's buried somewhere in the thread because I haven't read it. And please don't feel like you're entitled to any more of my time than I'm willing to put into this.

I know it's a big game and you're putting in a tonne of effort early and I admire that a whole heap. It's just not me at all. If you lynch me that's fine. It won't reveal a lot about that mech thing and I've been so close to universally pushed that you're unlikely to find scum off it. But I will not lose any sleep.

If not, I'll come out to play later.

[Wooper]

Wooper is literally refusing to do anything and even without this list it is scummy.

ugh, you just got done saying that this list didnt prove or disprove anything, and yet youre clinging to it.

I think I love you.

[gobbledygook]

Wooper is literally refusing to do anything and even without this list it is scummy.

ugh, you just got done saying that this list didnt prove or disprove anything, and yet youre clinging to it.

Pisskop. Either pick Wooper is scum because of the list or pick Wooper is scum because of his play. It’s not hard. Both options show that Wooper is scum.

[Miss Lane]

yeah the mechanical stuff is boring

i don't wanna solve mafia mechanically, tbh. if i wanted to do that i'd just go do logic puzzles all day

I love logic puzzles. That's probably why I've been enjoying this mafia game more than others, haha.

If it weren't for the possibility of people lying and spreading misinformation, we'd probably be able to solve this in a few days.

But alas, it'll take a while longer.

I like logic puzzles. I use mafiascum to scratch a different itch, however, and I don't really see why you'd want to do a logic puzzle where other people are insistent on getting in the way.

[pisskop]

I absolutely dislike it when people try to use purely mechanical solves. And doubly so when its incomplete like it is here.

[Miss Lane]

Wooper is literally refusing to do anything and even without this list it is scummy.

ugh, you just got done saying that this list didnt prove or disprove anything, and yet youre clinging to it.

Pisskop. Either pick Wooper is scum because of the list or pick Wooper is scum because of his play. It’s not hard. Both options show that Wooper is scum.

None of Wooper's play makes him scummy.

[Wooper]

I know you said something about reading FL's claim too I just... I need half a bottle of whiskey before trying to read anything claim related from FL

[gobbledygook]

Look I'm fine if you guys want to flavour and mech game. I don't see a useful way to spend my time rn so I intend to go back to waiting this out. If you're happy to explain stuff to me I'm happy to offer my opinion on it - if you lynch me today you'll be dissatisfied and probably lynch somewhere in Zor/UT too. Coincidentally the thing you're presenting as a mechanical pentochomy is no longer a mechanical pentochomy.. Outside of that I have very little interest in this dialogue.

Just please don't come asking me to have opinions on stuff that's buried somewhere in the thread because I haven't read it. And please don't feel like you're entitled to any more of my time than I'm willing to put into this.

I know it's a big game and you're putting in a tonne of effort early and I admire that a whole heap. It's just not me at all. If you lynch me that's fine. It won't reveal a lot about that mech thing and I've been so close to universally pushed that you're unlikely to find scum off it. But I will not lose any sleep.

If not, I'll come out to play later.

FUCKING READ THE FIRST POST ON THIS OAGE JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

[Miss Lane]

EP tell me do you believe the argument you posted?

Yes, absolutely.

If you'd like, I can respond to your wall post. It'd be easier to respond in brief though, so can you concisely sum up your problem(s) with my Wooper case?

What.

I made a single comment to the two points you made about Wooper, I'm not really sure how to sum it up much more than that.

[gobbledygook]

I wish I had a Vig shot so I could just shoot myself in the head.

[Miss Lane]

Wooper is literally refusing to do anything and even without this list it is scummy.

ugh, you just got done saying that this list didnt prove or disprove anything, and yet youre clinging to it.

I think I love you.

What about me? </3

[pisskop]

Pisskop. Either pick Wooper is scum because of the list or pick Wooper is scum because of his play. It’s not hard. Both options show that Wooper is scum.

neither is really based in reality though.

[EspressoPatronum]

@Miss Lynch

Here's why Korina didn't kill FF:

Spoiler:

We know Korina was the snake person

Can you tell me how you know this?

I've cut out the relevant flavour below that tells us Korina is the snake person.

[...]
. Before the portly man in the shadows could really gather his bearings and process what he'd seen, something huge slithered in behind him. He'd turn and look up.

"

Oh, uh... I've got wares if you've got the coin for it?

"

They'd be the last words he'd speak in truth. Meanwhile, in the tower, the guard etched a third mark on his pad.

---

The man sauntered through the night, like any other night, completely unaware of where his feet were taking him. The flaming black sword would've woken him up if it hadn't taken his life with it. He'd die in his sleep... but was that really the most peaceful way to go? The Snake-woman smirked as she watched the man slump to the ground with a pool of blood growing around him. Something caught the corner of her eye. Was that bush... moving? She glided through the dirt toward impending doom without even realizing it. Out of the bush came a very ragged man with garb as equally disheveled as his nearly toothless grin.

"POCKET SAND!"

She was blinded! Who the hell did this stranger think they were? It mattered not, for as wildly as he threw a handful of beach sand into her eyes came a mostly-broken sword swinging from his off-hand. Critical hit! The sword shattered in the center but it met its mark with a fatal blow. She clutched her throat, choking for air, and wretched around for what felt to her like forever before falling to the ground.

[...]

Vorkuta was murdered!

They were

Geoffrey The Tired:

Cobble-Aligned Sleepwalker

Menalque was sacrificed to Orcus!

They were

Margaret Krimsen:

Ascension-Aligned Lover Turned Cultist

The Fonz commited suicide!

They were

Genevieve Fenton:

Cobble-Aligned Lover

Nero Cain slowly died of poisoning!

They were

Nimyn:

Cobble-Aligned Inventor

Korina was killed!

They were

Xanesha:

Runelord-Aligned Godfather / Brownie Maker

The sleeper (Vork) was killed by the snake lady, who was killed right after by pocket sand + sword. None of the other roles are scum or killing roles.

Night 2 :

Korina

, EspressoPatronum, zoraster,

TrueSoulEnergy

, Wooper, Untrod Tripod

Right, but like. It could have been Korina doing the kill, so the other 5 names could be random.

P-edit: 6 names. I think I fucked up in my explanations somewhere, but in reality land, it’s 1 culprit, 5 randos.

If we're correct about the flavor speculation, then it couldn't have been Korina. He isn't an aasimar woman surrounded by dogs.

Korina was the snake person in the forest on N1. I'm assuming his target was either Mena (clocked by BG Chemist) or Chemist, who died to the Orcus killer.

Also the same flaming black sword Korina used to kill Vorkuta was used to kill Formerfish.

Again, is Korina an Aasimar woman, since you've apparently googled the character? Maybe they all have the same sword, who knows?

No one's claimed a brownie so Korina probably didn't use that ability. So why wouldn't he use it on a night that someone else made the kill?

I mentioned this in one of my most recent posts, but I believe the reason for Korina's no-kill on N1 is because he picked the same target as the Orcus killer.

Night 2 : Korina, EspressoPatronum, zoraster, TrueSoulEnergy, Wooper, Untrod Tripod

Ok, this is the list for FF.

We know Korina didn't kill FF.
We know TSE didn't kill FF.
UT has claimed cult copscan, so it's unlikely (but unconfirmed that he didn't kill)
I can be confirmed if needed, but I'd rather not until it's a last resort.

That leaves fmpv Wooper or Zora as the aasimar woman.

Zora today. If he's not the aasimar, then we go Wooper.

VOTE: Zoraster

I dont see much point in lynching that slot. If a replacement isnt found itll be modkilled right? Which... seems like a free lynch?

no! it gets force replaced. lynch the motherfucker. he's probably scum anyway.

You and I are both on Amrun's N2 list.

Assuming you're town, you know that 1 in 3 of me/Zora/Wooper is the aasimar who murdered FF.

Further, if you believe what I've said and think I'm town, you can assume a 50/50 in Zora or Wooper being the aasimar. If you're wrong today, you can vote the other tomorrow.

Thus far, we have little reason to doubt the accuracy of Amrun's lists.

Why wouldn't you take those odds?

[Wooper]

Gobble... Step away. You put down a bunch of links to a Pathfinder Wiki and asked me to look at that in response to me saying not to ask me to have opinions on flavourgaming stuff I don't give a shit about.

We're not going to find a middle ground here. If you want one, vote me and go get a cup of tea.

[pisskop]

"POCKET SAND!"

chkflip you cheeky bastard

[pisskop]

vote me and go get a cup of tea.

Somebody demanded I try Harney's. its not too bad, though this flavor is light on punch.

[EspressoPatronum]

EP tell me do you believe the argument you posted?

Yes, absolutely.

If you'd like, I can respond to your wall post. It'd be easier to respond in brief though, so can you concisely sum up your problem(s) with my Wooper case?

What.

9258 is a legit wall.
I made a single comment to the two points you made about Wooper, I'm not really sure how to sum it up much more than that.

[EspressoPatronum]

EP tell me do you believe the argument you posted?

Yes, absolutely.

If you'd like, I can respond to your wall post. It'd be easier to respond in brief though, so can you concisely sum up your problem(s) with my Wooper case?

What.
.
I made a single comment to the two points you made about Wooper, I'm not really sure how to sum it up much more than that.

9258 is a legit wall

EBWOP

[gobbledygook]

Gobble... Step away. You put down a bunch of links to a Pathfinder Wiki and asked me to look at that in response to me saying not to ask me to have opinions on flavourgaming stuff I don't give a shit about.

We're not going to find a middle ground here. If you want one, vote me and go get a cup of tea.

I just want you to play man. Like you keep saying “I don’t understand” and the people are giving you the tools and information to understand and you’re like “I don’t understand” and it’s just like ok?? Do something then to show us your alignment? And then you’re like “I don’t understand and I won’t be doing those things to show my alignment” and it’s just like ?????