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Post Post #9550 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:39 am

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Do we know if there is daychat for either anti town faction?
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Post Post #9551 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:39 am

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Wait, isn't EP also in Amrun's list for that night?
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Post Post #9552 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:40 am

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*sigh* I did not want to claim this but it is probably important. Someone sent me a message via the mod at daystart that makes me worry if we should publicly disclose our night action targets.
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Post Post #9553 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:42 am

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For every night action or certain night actions?
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Post Post #9554 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:45 am

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In post 9553, RCEnigma wrote:For every night action or certain night actions?
It essentially told me that there is a certain class of power in the game. Based off the class of power, it affects all types of targeting roles but is especially dangerous when it comes to vigilante shots.
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Post Post #9555 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:46 am

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In post 9551, Rautherdir wrote:Wait, isn't EP also in Amrun's list for that night?
Huh.
Yeah but I'd largely credit ceph, ep, and Amrun figuring out Korina hasn't been killing. Unless Amruns lists are 1 person that could *potentially* have killed the slot and then 5 randoms. Which isn't how I understood it. 1 of the 6 names is the killer of whichever body Amrun invests. If Korina didn't make the kill 1 of the remaining 5 did.
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Post Post #9556 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:47 am

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In post 9550, RCEnigma wrote:Do we know if there is daychat for either anti town faction?
I don't remember seeing anything one way or the other on this.

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I think there is some trickery with roles as well. My price is paid specifically whenever my ability is used, and not whenever I use my ability (But including when I use my ability, if that makes any sense).
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Post Post #9557 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:50 am

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In post 9551, Rautherdir wrote:Wait, isn't EP also in Amrun's list for that night?
Huh.
In post 8673, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 8514, Amrun wrote:Night 2 : Korina, EspressoPatronum, zoraster, TrueSoulEnergy, Wooper, Untrod Tripod
Ok, this is the list for FF.

We know Korina didn't kill FF.
We know TSE didn't kill FF.
UT has claimed cult copscan, so it's unlikely (but unconfirmed that he didn't kill)
I can be confirmed if needed, but I'd rather not until it's a last resort.

That leaves fmpv Wooper or Zora as the aasimar woman.

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Post Post #9558 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:52 am

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In post 9555, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 9551, Rautherdir wrote:Wait, isn't EP also in Amrun's list for that night?
Huh.
Yeah but I'd largely credit ceph, ep, and Amrun figuring out Korina hasn't been killing. Unless Amruns lists are 1 person that could *potentially* have killed the slot and then 5 randoms. Which isn't how I understood it. 1 of the 6 names is the killer of whichever body Amrun invests. If Korina didn't make the kill 1 of the remaining 5 did.
That's how Amrun claimed it. Although it's 1 of the remaining 4, one of the other players on that list already died.

The remaining players are Wooper, zoraster, Untrod Tripod, and EP
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Post Post #9559 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:54 am

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I think based off the information in my message we should give a collective pool to the vigs in the game and then ask them to flip a coin to see if they will shoot and then if they get a positive flip, choose a target of their choice within the pool. It doesn’t fully prevent Bad Things, but it makes the fallout much more palatable.
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Post Post #9560 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:54 am

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Well yeah but you get the point I'm making.

I dunno if EP helps narrow that Poe down if he's the one making the kills. He could just join in with the voices yelling "scumhunt bad, gutfeeling good".
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Post Post #9561 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:55 am

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But I've seen EP do more questionable things.
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Post Post #9562 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:56 am

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Based on play, EP is town. He’s like one of the few people in this game that are town based on play alone.
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Post Post #9563 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:57 am

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In post 9559, gobbledygook wrote:I think based off the information in my message we should give a collective pool to the vigs in the game and then ask them to flip a coin to see if they will shoot and then if they get a positive flip, choose a target of their choice within the pool. It doesn’t fully prevent Bad Things, but it makes the fallout much more palatable.
Then we kill elements. Because their isn't any reason to leave him alive with the option to not kill or kill at his discretion.
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Post Post #9564 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:59 am

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wait, can someone walk me through why Amrun's result on Vorkuta couldn't have been Korina?
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Post Post #9565 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:59 am

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That’s actually not a bad idea.
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Post Post #9566 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:00 am

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also n2 obviously
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Post Post #9567 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:01 am

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In post 9564, zoraster wrote:wait, can someone walk me through why Amrun's result on Vorkuta couldn't have been Korina?
Korina had a separate action and is not multitasking. Unless pisskop is lying.
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Post Post #9568 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:01 am

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In post 9525, zoraster wrote:
In post 9524, Amrun wrote:“Killed” is, I think, Elements.
why do you believe this.
In post 9527, zoraster wrote:Just to remind you:
In post 9497, Elements wrote:I killed creature
In post 0, chkflip wrote:Creature was sacrificed to Orcus N3! They were Quickdraw Daniels: Cobble-Aligned Super Saint

Because a cross kill would take on the more interesting kill flavor. That’s why I think it’s a cross kill. I want to reserve judgment on this until I see flavor for last night.

Regardless, “killed” is some non Runelord kill.
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Post Post #9569 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:02 am

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And flavor indicates the same person made both scumkills. Probably.
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Post Post #9570 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:06 am

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if it's a factional kill i'd just kind of assume the same flavor applies? But anyway, is there a reason we think that someone can't do both a factional kill and an action? did the mod say that it can't? I hate to retread established stuff, but I want to make sure I understand the actual meat of Amrun's stuff, particularly given I'm implicated.
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Post Post #9571 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:07 am

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In post 9569, RCEnigma wrote:And flavor indicates the same person made both scumkills. Probably.
It’s interesting because it seems from Amrun’s list on Vork that Korina did do the kill.
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Post Post #9572 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:09 am

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I was under the impression that Korina did kill Vorkuta.
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Post Post #9573 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:10 am

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In post 9564, zoraster wrote:wait, can someone walk me through why Amrun's result on Vorkuta couldn't have been Korina?
Korina's Character is Xanesha, a giant snake-thing, and the Vork kill was done by a giant snake-thing.

Also, there is no mention of multi-tasking being possible or not that I can see.
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Post Post #9574 (ISO) » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:10 am

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Claimed:

Wooper Paranoid Bat Owner (Reflexive Silencer)
Untrod Tripod (Cult Cop) - {Gamma, Ceph, PB}
Amrun (Gated Forensic Investigator) - {The Fonz, UT, Pine, Titus, Gobbledygook, PB} {Korina, EP, Zor, TSE, Woop, UT} {FL, EP, Korina, Zor, BBmolla, Pine}
Bingle: Investigative, nothing useful on BB, Kidamn, PB, FB. Received an Invention (unused) N1.
xofelf: Knows how many cult are alive.
Pink Ball: 3p
Flavor Leaf: Universal Deputy
RCEnigma: Daycop (Rauth town)
Miss Lynch: 3p
Elements: Vig (Creature N2)
zoraster: Blocked N2

Confirmed-ish

Firebringer - Poisoner {Nero killed by poison}
Rautherdir - Gated Lie Detector (Guiltied on AliKise N1, No claim so far on N2?)
BBmolla: Flavor Cop (Confirmed by FL N1)
gobbledygook: FN (Confirmed by BB)


Extant, but unclaimed

Post restrictor: Gobble claims to have been targeted N0
Roleblocking role: BBmolla (N2) and Zor (N2) both claim to have actions that have failed.
Vote Manipulation: Zor voting vork.
Motivator: Targeted Bingle N1, BB N2.
Messenger, possibly informed (Sent message to Gobbles N2.)

Unclaimed:

Pine
Iconeum
Gamma Emerald
Dr Easy Bake
AaronFrost
davesaz
pisskop
cyrus62
Cephrir
chennisden
Almost50
KidAmn
EspressoPatronum

I think this is an accurate summation of current claims.
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